xxoo Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 Meh, I could go with or without wake up sex. Its no biggie to me. And tbh I enjoy my sleep. And Im undecided on kids...and this point in time Im leaning on no. If she's horny in the morning, she's SOL? If not morning sex, bed sharing, or your mountains of stuff--what are you willing to compromise on? I don't think you are ready for a live in partner, or kids. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
rainfall Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 No, it's not. Sleeping with someone involves intimacy. There is nothing insecure or clingy about wanting to maintain intimacy with the person you live with. I can't see how sleeping next to someone involves intimacy. You are both unconsious. I'd much rather sleep apart and have a good night of sleep and be in a good mood the next day, then be all pissy because I was woken up all hours of the night by snoring and being kicked. I don't handle lack of sleep very well and usually can barly get through the day if I haven't slept good the night before. I'd much rather miss out on the "time" I would spend with my boyfriend while we sleep and be able to enjoy our time together while we are awake. Kaylan I think if you get to the point where you are ready to move in with a girl she will already be aware of your back problems and you should hopefully have an idea how she would handle you needing a few nights to sleep alone for your health. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Author kaylan Posted September 2, 2012 Author Share Posted September 2, 2012 It's allllll about you. What about her? You know, your relationship partner???? How is it alllll about me if I said I could go with or without wake up sex? Jeezus christ...now its selfish for someone to want to fvking sleep instead of being awaken for sex? Gimme a break...now youre reaching. Link to post Share on other sites
Author kaylan Posted September 2, 2012 Author Share Posted September 2, 2012 If she's horny in the morning, she's SOL? If not morning sex, bed sharing, or your mountains of stuff--what are you willing to compromise on? I don't think you are ready for a live in partner, or kids. Why the hell are you women putting words in my mouth and jumping to conclusions? If she wakes up horny it depends on the situation if she will get laid or not. I might be in the mood, I might not. I might have work soon, I might not. And did I say I wanted kids? No I did not. And in what way am I not ready for a live in partner? 1 night of sleep in a separate bed indicates that? Get over yourselves. Every thing you and SG have mentioned can be done the other 6 nights in the week. Jeezus Christ. Link to post Share on other sites
ThaWholigan Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 at this thread gathering pace like a racehorse 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Author kaylan Posted September 2, 2012 Author Share Posted September 2, 2012 I can't see how sleeping next to someone involves intimacy. You are both unconsious. I'd much rather sleep apart and have a good night of sleep and be in a good mood the next day, then be all pissy because I was woken up all hours of the night by snoring and being kicked. I don't handle lack of sleep very well and usually can barly get through the day if I haven't slept good the night before. I'd much rather miss out on the "time" I would spend with my boyfriend while we sleep and be able to enjoy our time together while we are awake. Kaylan I think if you get to the point where you are ready to move in with a girl she will already be aware of your back problems and you should hopefully have an idea how she would handle you needing a few nights to sleep alone for your health. This exactly is my entire point. Thank you Link to post Share on other sites
Star Gazer Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 How is it alllll about me if I said I could go with or without wake up sex? Jeezus christ...now its selfish for someone to want to fvking sleep instead of being awaken for sex? Gimme a break...now youre reaching. Because you're refusing to recognize the needs and wants of YOUR PARTNER. You're ONLY concerned with what YOU want. Let me spell it out for you. Maybe SHE wants wakeup sex? It's effing awesome. Link to post Share on other sites
Star Gazer Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 I can't see how sleeping next to someone involves intimacy. You don't see how sharing the same bed with your relationship partner involves intimacy? Are you on the autism spectrum? (I'm being serious.) Link to post Share on other sites
Author kaylan Posted September 2, 2012 Author Share Posted September 2, 2012 Because you're refusing to recognize the needs and wants of YOUR PARTNER. You're ONLY concerned with what YOU want. Let me spell it out for you. Maybe SHE wants wakeup sex? It's effing awesome. Are you fvking kidding me? READ MY POSTS. She has 6 nights a week for that. How am I NOT recognizing her needs and wants? I should just never get a decent nights sleep then? Link to post Share on other sites
Star Gazer Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 I don't think you are ready for a live in partner, or kids. Or any kind of romantic, committed relationship. It's pretty obvious. Link to post Share on other sites
Star Gazer Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 Are you fvking kidding me? READ MY POSTS. She has 6 nights a week for that. How am I NOT recognizing her needs and wants? I should just never get a decent nights sleep then? Are you gonna post a schedule on the fridge so she knows when you may or may not be available to get some? Link to post Share on other sites
Author kaylan Posted September 2, 2012 Author Share Posted September 2, 2012 Or any kind of romantic, committed relationship. It's pretty obvious. You are so daft its beyond all comprehension. In what way am I not going to be able to have a romantic relationship because I sleep alone once, maybe twice a week on bad weeks? I should have NO time for my own health? Even though 80% or more of my time goes to my girl? Do you read your posts or mine with accurate comprehension? Or are you just posting emotional. Be logical here. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
rainfall Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 You don't see how sharing the same bed with your relationship partner involves intimacy? Are you on the autism spectrum? (I'm being serious.) No I don't see how sleeping next to someone involves intimacy. I see how using the bed for sex involves intimacy. I don't see how tossing and turning and being woken up every hour involves intimacy. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Author kaylan Posted September 2, 2012 Author Share Posted September 2, 2012 Are you gonna post a schedule on the fridge so she knows when you may or may not be available to get some? Grow the hell up. If my back feels like crap and I need a day, I will take it. I dont think you of all people are in a position to taunt anyone. Link to post Share on other sites
ThaWholigan Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 The first time I slept in a bed with a girl, I was a little uncomfortable admittedly. But that was mainly because I was horny as sh*t and nothing was going to happen. If I'm moving in with a girl, I would prefer to sleep with her. If I'm tired, I will go to sleep, the fires of hell could ascend towards me and I will still be asleep. All this talk about morning sex and sh*t like that interests me too :love: I know quite a few people like Kaylan though - I don't think it should be much of a problem if he finds a girl who thinks the same way as him. He would probably have to screen for it beforehand though, because a lot of girls will like the closeness of sleeping with their men. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Author kaylan Posted September 2, 2012 Author Share Posted September 2, 2012 No I don't see how sleeping next to someone involves intimacy. I see how using the bed for sex involves intimacy. I don't see how tossing and turning and being woken up every hour involves intimacy. This. SG is obviously someone who doesnt suffer from nagging back pain or have to sleep with monstrous snorers....so obviously she knows how things should work for us both 1 Link to post Share on other sites
xxoo Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 In what way am I not going to be able to have a romantic relationship because I sleep alone once, maybe twice a week on bad weeks? I should have NO time for my own health? If it is the back issue, that's very different from needing, what, mental health nights alone? I don't get it! But yes, if you are in a relationship, or have kids, youalso need to "give" a little. That could mean giving up some space for those clothes, or some guitars, or some sleep. For most of us adults, living with other adults, we need to be flexible and make some sacrifices. I don't read a lot of "give" in your threads, and I'm wondering on what parts you are willing to compromise when in a relationship. Link to post Share on other sites
SmileFace Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 Anyway in all serioisness different strokes for different folks. I like sleeping next to a guy - just because I get a better sleep when I share a bed. I suffer from insomnia and I only seem to beat it by sharing a bed ( weird I know). This is has nothing to do with insecurity. Anyway I like night, mid night and morning sex so I personally don't think I am ready for a live in partner because we truthfully won't get any sleep. Anyway relationships are about compromise so Kay try to tackle that bridge once you reach it. No reason to worry over something like this. To answer your initial question I would not want my guy to have a separate bedroom but we can have separate rooms to call our own. I truthfully believe bedrooms should have a bed, night stand and ceiling mirrors anyway - all the other crap is for closets. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Author kaylan Posted September 2, 2012 Author Share Posted September 2, 2012 (edited) If it is the back issue, that's very different from needing, what, mental health nights alone? I don't get it! But yes, if you are in a relationship, or have kids, youalso need to "give" a little. That could mean giving up some space for those clothes, or some guitars, or some sleep. For most of us adults, living with other adults, we need to be flexible and make some sacrifices. I don't read a lot of "give" in your threads, and I'm wondering on what parts you are willing to compromise when in a relationship. Again...read the OP and recognize I said the biggest reason is my back and the other stuff is perks for alone time. Jeez How am I not already sacrificing my sleep by giving 5 and 6 nights a week to a girl and just needing 1 or maybe 2 for myself? Are you not hearing yourself? So unless I give all 7 nights, Im selfish and not compromising? And again (as Ive had to say this to some before), you must not really follow my posts well enough because Im very middle of the road and compromise a lot on most things compared to many of the men on this forum. Im not rigid in most things...but my back health? Gimme a break...im allowed to be rigid in wanting 20% of sleeping time to myself. Edited September 2, 2012 by kaylan Link to post Share on other sites
maybealone Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 Meh, I could go with or without wake up sex. Its no biggie to me. THAT would be a dealbreaker for me loooong before sleeping separately ever became an issue. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Author kaylan Posted September 2, 2012 Author Share Posted September 2, 2012 THAT would be a dealbreaker for me loooong before sleeping separately ever became an issue. Its a deal breaker that a guy likes morning sex, but doesnt absolutely need it all the time? In what way does that make sense? Did you understand that post you quoted? Apparently not. Link to post Share on other sites
Star Gazer Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 This. SG is obviously someone who doesnt suffer from nagging back pain or have to sleep with monstrous snorers....so obviously she knows how things should work for us both ASS-umptions! Wrong on both counts! Link to post Share on other sites
xxoo Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 Again...read the OP and recognize I said the biggest reason is my back and the other stuff is perks for alone time. Jeez How am I not already sacrificing my sleep by giving 5 and 6 nights a week to a girl and just needing 1 or maybe 2 for myself? Are you not hearing yourself? So unless I give all 7 nights, Im selfish and not compromising? So it is a compromise to you to sleep together the other 5/6 nights? Is that what you mean? In a perfect world, how often would you WANT to sleep together? Do you, or do you not, wish to sleep elsewhere even when your back is fine? I've already conceded the back issue, several times. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Author kaylan Posted September 2, 2012 Author Share Posted September 2, 2012 ASS-umptions! Wrong on both counts! I hope youve taken notice of your incorrect assumptions throughout this thread as well. Doubtful you have though. Link to post Share on other sites
Star Gazer Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 I hope youve taken notice of your incorrect assumptions throughout this thread as well. Doubtful you have though. Good job dodging FACTS! I haven't made any assumptions about anything in this thread that aren't accurate. Link to post Share on other sites
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