Author kaylan Posted September 2, 2012 Author Share Posted September 2, 2012 So it is a compromise to you to sleep together the other 5/6 nights? Is that what you mean? In a perfect world, how often would you WANT to sleep together? Yes that is my compromise...granted sleep together in a comfy bed of our choosing doesnt prove to work. If I need to sleep alone to get a great nights rest, itd ideally happen once a week (twice at most on bad weeks) Do you, or do you not, wish to sleep elsewhere even when your back is fine? I've already conceded the back issue, several times. Youve conceded it but then you add some backhanded remark about me lacking the ability to compromise or be ready for a commitment....come on now. Link to post Share on other sites
xxoo Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 Gimme a break...im allowed to be rigid in wanting 20% of sleeping time to myself. Maybe you need an 80% relationship. Or maybe you are just 80% ready for a live in relationship. Most of us women want a partner every day, and every night, and that means sleeping together whenever health allows. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Author kaylan Posted September 2, 2012 Author Share Posted September 2, 2012 (edited) Good job dodging FACTS! I haven't made any assumptions about anything in this thread that aren't accurate. Whatever you want to tell yourself Maybe you need an 80% relationship. Or maybe you are just 80% ready for a live in relationship. Most of us women want a partner every day, and every night, and that means sleeping together whenever health allows. Wow...read posts fully!....read the OP fully and with understanding. Or just refer to my previous post. Jeez...if a woman cannot understand my back feels like crap and I need a night alone,...shes a selfish female Id never date long to begin with. Edited September 2, 2012 by kaylan Link to post Share on other sites
Pyro Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 if a woman cannot understand my back feels like crap and I need a night alone,...shes a selfish female Id never date long to begin with. wouldn't you rather have a woman by your side in bed massaging the pain away from your back? 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Star Gazer Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 Whatever you want to tell yourself Wow...read posts fully!....read the OP fully and with understanding. Or just refer to my previous post. Jeez...if a woman cannot understand my back feels like crap and I need a night alone,...shes a selfish female Id never date long to begin with. I'm sure there will be plenty of times when a female in your life isn't going to want to share your bed...ANYMORE. Looks like that's already happened. Have fun. Link to post Share on other sites
Author kaylan Posted September 2, 2012 Author Share Posted September 2, 2012 wouldn't you rather have a woman by your side in bed massaging the pain away from your back? If she knows what shes doing...sure...but even the licensed PT massages didnt get all the pain to go away. What does get it to go away? Exercise and sleeping well. Link to post Share on other sites
maybealone Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 Its a deal breaker that a guy likes morning sex, but doesnt absolutely need it all the time? In what way does that make sense? Did you understand that post you quoted? Apparently not. Obviously I misunderstood. I took "I could go with or without wake up sex. Its no biggie to me" to mean that you could go with or without wake up sex and that it was no biggie to you. To me, it sounded like you could take it or leave it and I would want someone that loves it. Link to post Share on other sites
Author kaylan Posted September 2, 2012 Author Share Posted September 2, 2012 I'm sure there will be plenty of times when a female in your life isn't going to want to share your bed...ANYMORE. Looks like that's already happened. Have fun. haha....keep telling yourself that. I know you wish it were true...too bad its far from the truth. But keep trollin brah I know you mad though, but why? Link to post Share on other sites
Pyro Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 If she knows what shes doing...sure...but even the licensed PT massages didnt get all the pain to go away. What does get it to go away? Exercise and sleeping well. or nightly massages may do the trick. Did you see your licensed PT on a daily basis? Link to post Share on other sites
Author kaylan Posted September 2, 2012 Author Share Posted September 2, 2012 or nightly massages may do the trick. Did you see your licensed PT on a daily basis? Every other day. And no...nightly wouldnt have done anything much better because there was a week I was in there every other day with no change in pain until I did the exercises I was given more. Or when I did more back work in the gym. I needed to strengthen my back muscles and rest them properly. As well as making sure my back always had the right support when sitting in chairs. Link to post Share on other sites
Pyro Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 Every other day. And no...nightly wouldnt have done anything much better because there was a week I was in there every other day with no change in pain until I did the exercises I was given more. Or when I did more back work in the gym. I needed to strengthen my back muscles and rest them properly. As well as making sure my back always had the right support when sitting in chairs. I think that the combination of regular exercise, a comfortable bed, and NIGHTLY massages may help you. Aside from wanting YOU time I don't think that time apart when sleeping is necessary. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Star Gazer Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 haha....keep telling yourself that. I know you wish it were true...too bad its far from the truth. But keep trollin brah I know you mad though, but why? I'm not mad. I'm very, very happy. Link to post Share on other sites
Author kaylan Posted September 2, 2012 Author Share Posted September 2, 2012 I think that the combination of regular exercise, a comfortable bed, and NIGHTLY massages may help you. Aside from wanting YOU time I don't think that time apart when sleeping is necessary. You think, but I know whats worked for me. Actually strengthening those screwed up muscles is what worked, as well as getting restful uninterrupted sleep. But thanks for the advice, however if I am not able to sleep in the same bed all the time with a future gf, sleeping alone may be necessary some nights. Link to post Share on other sites
johan Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 I'm lucky to not snore or move around too much when I sleep. And the women I've dated were always the same way. If it was difficult to get a good night's sleep together, I can imagine separate rooms could be an option. You have to feel good and be healthy. The girl I'm with is so nice to have close. Soft and warm, but not clingy. It doesn't get too hot at all. She smells good, and little makeout sessions during the night are the best. I can't imagine giving up nights with her for the sake of closet space. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Pyro Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 You think, but I know whats worked for me. Actually strengthening those screwed up muscles is what worked, as well as getting restful uninterrupted sleep. But thanks for the advice, however if I am not able to sleep in the same bed all the time with a future gf, sleeping alone may be necessary some nights. but you haven't tried consecutive days of massages. You said so yourself that it was every other day. Will most likely make a difference with consecutive nights. Link to post Share on other sites
Author kaylan Posted September 2, 2012 Author Share Posted September 2, 2012 ^Did you miss the part where I said I went in for a week on consecutive days and nothing changed? It wasnt until I consistently did exercise and slept well that things changed. And this was without consistent massages. Link to post Share on other sites
maybealone Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 Im pretty sure most women when they wake up... Just takes a shower, brushes their teeth and goes to work anyway. I'm pretty sure you're wrong, but it doesn't matter since I was talking about me and not "most women." Link to post Share on other sites
ThaWholigan Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 but you haven't tried consecutive days of massages. You said so yourself that it was every other day. Will most likely make a difference with consecutive nights. He should date a masseuse 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Author kaylan Posted September 2, 2012 Author Share Posted September 2, 2012 EDIT: Just saw I typoed that second sentence in my last post...its sposed to say I was in there every dau for a particular week. Link to post Share on other sites
Pyro Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 ^Did you miss the part where I said I went in for a week on consecutive days and nothing changed? It wasnt until I consistently did exercise and slept well that things changed. And this was without consistent massages. I didn't miss something that wasn't there. Re-read what you typed and it clearly states every OTHER day Just saw the update. Whatever paddles your canoe. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Author kaylan Posted September 2, 2012 Author Share Posted September 2, 2012 Every other day. And no...nightly wouldnt have done anything much better because there was a week I was in there every day with no change in pain until I did the exercises I was given more. Or when I did more back work in the gym. I needed to strengthen my back muscles and rest them properly. As well as making sure my back always had the right support when sitting in chairs. Fixed typo in bold. Link to post Share on other sites
maybealone Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 The girl I'm with is so nice to have close. Soft and warm, but not clingy. It doesn't get too hot at all. She smells good, and little makeout sessions during the night are the best. I can't imagine giving up nights with her for the sake of closet space. I do think part of the issue here -- even though it is a total cliche -- is that Kaylan hasn't met the right woman yet. Link to post Share on other sites
rainfall Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 Maybe you need an 80% relationship. Or maybe you are just 80% ready for a live in relationship. Most of us women want a partner every day, and every night, and that means sleeping together whenever health allows. My boyfriend and I probably sleep in the same bed maybe a total of 10 hours a week. Alot of it has to do with different work/school schedules but when we were more on the same schedule I was miserable. Back when I was having really bad insomnia he offered to sleep on the couch or in the other room because he felt bad because his snoring sleeping habits were causing my problems. I think I would have had a hard time being with him if he told me to get over it or I was being selfish because I wanted a good nights sleep and I couldn't do that with him snoring and kicking me all night. I consider our relationship to be 100%. We care about each others happiness and if that means we don't sleep next to each other then that is ok with me. Link to post Share on other sites
johan Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 I'll also say that when you've been with someone long enough, it becomes hard to sleep without them there. It only takes a few days to adjust so you can sleep well. It takes a few weeks for it to become part of your routine. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
SmileFace Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 "well slept Check" Lmfao 1 Link to post Share on other sites
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