Attraction is like a carnival game

[El Brujo]

You know that carnival game called Test of Strength, or High Striker, where you hit a lever with a mallet in the hope of sending a weight all the way up a column to ding the bell on the top so you can win a stuffed toy (aka a date)? That's pretty much how trying to meet women has become for me.

 

If you hang around the game long enough, you'll notice that hardly anyone ever seems to ding that bell. That's because the operator is standing on a secret lever to sabotage it. Trying to meet women is a rigged game---especially for those of us men who are straight but openly asexual.

 

That's why I refuse to play the game.

 

Besides, is a stuffed toy really worth winning?

[GLDheart]

Your post comes across as someone that has had a string of bad luck and is getting demoralized.

[El Brujo]

Your post comes across as someone that has had a string of bad luck and is getting demoralized.

 

This is very true... but being an author and a publisher, I happen to be in a position to do something about it.

[strongnrelaxed]

You know that carnival game called Test of Strength, or High Striker, where you hit a lever with a mallet in the hope of sending a weight all the way up a column to ding the bell on the top so you can win a stuffed toy (aka a date)? That's pretty much how trying to meet women has become for me.

 

If you hang around the game long enough, you'll notice that hardly anyone ever seems to ding that bell. That's because the operator is standing on a secret lever to sabotage it. Trying to meet women is a rigged game---especially for those of us men who are straight but openly asexual.

 

That's why I refuse to play the game.

 

Besides, is a stuffed toy really worth winning?

 

Yes! I agree with you Brujo. The game is rigged. Women are deceitful by their nature. Not ALL women, we know, we know. But it is sort of an unwritten cultural norm that you "don't tell your man everything" you keep secrets from him.

 

In many places if a woman were to admit that she had sex with another man, she might get hurt badly or killed. Men do not face that same danger. We face shame more than anything else.

 

So for this reason, women cheat as much as men do but they lie about it. Even to each other. And they all know this. So it becomes like a big game. They lie and everyone else pretends that they don't know it.

 

So when you don't seem to "get it" you are called a "clueless" man. Never mind that she is being deceptive and concealing her intentions etc.

 

Welcome to modern society brought to you by radical feminism. Not the good kind from the 70's that fought for equal treatment for women. The new strain is damaging to women and men alike. But if you point this out, you are going to be perceived as bitter, angry, etc. The very first female poster blasted you with this out the gate. Very predictable.

 

Most of the female members here seem to have good intentions. But they still cling to these knee jerk stereotypes about men. I liken this to racism. It is ignorant wrong and disgusting and needs to be called out at every opportunity.

[Titania22]

You know that carnival game called Test of Strength, or High Striker, where you hit a lever with a mallet in the hope of sending a weight all the way up a column to ding the bell on the top so you can win a stuffed toy (aka a date)? That's pretty much how trying to meet women has become for me.

 

If you hang around the game long enough, you'll notice that hardly anyone ever seems to ding that bell. That's because the operator is standing on a secret lever to sabotage it. Trying to meet women is a rigged game---especially for those of us men who are straight but openly asexual.

 

That's why I refuse to play the game.

 

Besides, is a stuffed toy really worth winning?

 

I might be female, but I feel similar in a way. Not in that it's a game I keep losing, but rather that no one and I mean no one is interested. And every time I express any interest in a guy (supposedly a friend) not only do I get rejected (that's fine I guess I don't expect everyone to be interested), but I lose the friendship too. It all sucks.

 

The latest was a guy I have been talking to on skype for a couple of years, and we were going to meet in a couple of weeks, and I guess I got too excited about it when we talked last night, and he removed me from skype.

 

I seriously think I am damned every time I show any interest, joy or friendliness towards anyone of the opposite sex. They have no interest in me, and their apparent friendship isn't real either.

[strongnrelaxed]

I might be female, but I feel similar in a way. Not in that it's a game I keep losing, but rather that no one and I mean no one is interested. And every time I express any interest in a guy (supposedly a friend) not only do I get rejected (that's fine I guess I don't expect everyone to be interested), but I lose the friendship too. It all sucks.

 

The latest was a guy I have been talking to on skype for a couple of years, and we were going to meet in a couple of weeks, and I guess I got too excited about it when we talked last night, and he removed me from skype.

 

I seriously think I am damned every time I show any interest, joy or friendliness towards anyone of the opposite sex. They have no interest in me, and their apparent friendship isn't real either.

 

I keep repeating this over and over to the ladies and young men here. So I will repeat it again.

 

Men are sick of the BS. Society has sold us a pile of lies. Horrible horrible lies about women and relationships. The internet has allowed older men to interact with millions upon millions of younger men. Men can read what women really think on sites like this - and it ain't pretty

 

This hookup culture is a direct result of radical feminism. This is what women have INSISTED upon. Now, you will find yourself, like may other good women, competing for the few top guys who can take their pick. You will continue to hate those men for being the inconsiderate A-holes they are, and then you will take it out on the next good man who comes along.

 

Young men now know that this is how it all works and they are saying "No thank you" and they are enjoying this new freedom - brought to them by feminism.

 

Don't get me wrong, feminism did some very good things. But just like the labor movement was hijacked and priced us out of the manufacturing industries (at the expense of the workers themselves, ironically) feminism has been hijacked and it has priced you out of the "good man" market.

 

Try telling that to a Union Member. Or try telling that to a feminist.

 

I know that people do not understand history or how these things came to be. I get that.

 

But you my dear are on the short end of the stick. Your previous generation screwed you and I feel bad about that.

 

But I am hopeful for the young 20-30 year old men who will not get married now. The ones who will run like a bat out of hell the first time a woman even HINTS at a relationship. They would be IDIOTS to do otherwise. Current divorce laws, and the current state of male/female dynamics is so corrupted these days, that I am surprised that ANY man with an education gets married.

 

It will only get worse. The good news is that it is not likely anything about you personally. Remember, the guy who eventually hooks up with you is an idiot because he doesn't realize what's happening. Do you really want to marry that sort of man?

 

Think about that!

[Nikki Sahagin]

I find some of these comments really knee jerk.

 

Women are deceitful? Women are liars?

 

Guess what: HUMAN BEINGS are deceitful. HUMAN BEINGS are liars.

 

Do you really think women lie anymore than men?

 

It seems if you're a woman you think men are all bad. And if you are a man, you think women are all bad.

 

The problem is that when people suffer at the hands of the opposite gender, they fail to see things clearly. Their rational thought is tinged with emotion and hurt, and you take this into your next encounters with women or men.

 

Life isn't fair...but no it's not true that only alpha males get women and super models get men. Lots of ordinary, normal people are in relationships all around us.

 

Relationships and love are NOT a guaranteed. We've all been brainwashed to think they are, but they simply aren't.

[Titania22]

Do you really want to marry that sort of man?

 

Think about that!

 

Who said anything about getting married? I certainly didn't. I don't want to get married. I just didn't want to spend the rest of my life alone and celibate.

[strongnrelaxed]

I find some of these comments really knee jerk.

 

Women are deceitful? Women are liars?

 

Do you really think women lie anymore than men?

 

 

Hell yes I do. Men lie to impress women to get sex. Women lie to men about things like "it's your baby" and "I don't know where that money went"

 

Do not get me started Nikki. You are likely in your 20's. I get that. I understand that you are not used to hearing men speak honestly. Too bad. This is reality and the women around me (and there have been a lot, if one includes family and friends) have lied so much more and SO much more egregiously that it is not even a close contest.

 

Poke around on other parts of the forum. In fact I may post this separately. Women will agree with me on this one. There are many reasons for this, but it is pretty much an accepted fact.

 

Now, that being said, I know that not ALL women lie as much as the next. And i know there are bad men. But the honest woman ratio and the bad man ratio are much lower than you have been led to believe. In fact this is another lie brought to you by women - particularly feminists.

 

Don't get cruddy with me about this. Do your homework first and don't ask feminists. They will lie to you!

 

Look at the statistics on domestic violence. The world looks much different when one is a man in modern society. Women seem to look back at history and feel offended and take it out on the good men around them.

 

Women lie more often and more egregiously. If you deny this then I will consider you to be a liar too. Ask the men in your life. See what they have to say about it. Don't take my word.

[strongnrelaxed]

Who said anything about getting married? I certainly didn't. I don't want to get married. I just didn't want to spend the rest of my life alone and celibate.

 

I will give you the benefit of the doubt because you are down under. But in American, women are obsessed with marriage.

 

It is a very wrong thing. I pray that my sons never get married. It is a cruel joke played on men every day. I am very saddened by this.

[Titania22]

I will give you the benefit of the doubt because you are down under. But in American, women are obsessed with marriage.

 

It is a very wrong thing. I pray that my sons never get married. It is a cruel joke played on men every day. I am very saddened by this.

 

I could care less about married. It would be lovely to have a man care about me.

[Nikki Sahagin]

Hell yes I do. Men lie to impress women to get sex. Women lie to men about things like "it's your baby" and "I don't know where that money went"

 

Do not get me started Nikki. You are likely in your 20's. I get that. I understand that you are not used to hearing men speak honestly. Too bad. This is reality and the women around me (and there have been a lot, if one includes family and friends) have lied so much more and SO much more egregiously that it is not even a close contest.

 

Poke around on other parts of the forum. In fact I may post this separately. Women will agree with me on this one. There are many reasons for this, but it is pretty much an accepted fact.

 

Now, that being said, I know that not ALL women lie as much as the next. And i know there are bad men. But the honest woman ratio and the bad man ratio are much lower than you have been led to believe. In fact this is another lie brought to you by women - particularly feminists.

 

Don't get cruddy with me about this. Do your homework first and don't ask feminists. They will lie to you!

 

Look at the statistics on domestic violence. The world looks much different when one is a man in modern society. Women seem to look back at history and feel offended and take it out on the good men around them.

 

Women lie more often and more egregiously. If you deny this then I will consider you to be a liar too. Ask the men in your life. See what they have to say about it. Don't take my word.

 

 

So men lie to get sex and that is okay, but women lie about everything else?

 

I'm not going to bother arguing with because you believe you are right and will go on believing that, and in doing so, you will shut out many honest women who will not even bother with you.

[Dafa]

(...)openly asexual.

 

That's why I refuse to play the game.

 

Besides, is a stuffed toy really worth winning?

 

Pardon my question but what do you mean by "openly assexual"?

[Dafa]

So men lie to get sex and that is okay, but women lie about everything else?

 

(...)

 

Let's take his premises as being true. Men lie mainly to get sex which, while not the best behaviour, pales in comparison to the lies he accuses women of. But hey this is his reasoning.

Also, try to understand his point, instead of blindly dismissing it. He admits that not all women are bad and not all men are good, i.e., he acknowledges the existence of the wide variety of human beings. His point lies in statistics, e.g.:

 

"Now, that being said, I know that not ALL women lie as much as the next. And i know there are bad men. But the honest woman ratio and the bad man ratio are much lower than you have been led to believe. In fact this is another lie brought to you by women - particularly feminists."

 

This.