BetheButterfly Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 (edited) I mean I do.. Well did pray for one, I stopped praying because it didn't work so maybe I do need to just take matters into my own hands because waiting on god Is kind of pointless God isn't a Genie who pops out of a bottle every time a person prays in order to answer requests. That's now how God is. Christians see God as our Heavenly Father, because of Jesus' teachings (Matthew 5:5-15 for example) Now, when I was a kid and asked my Dad for money or toys I wanted, I didn't expect anything from him if I wasn't doing my homework, doing my chores, being nice to my sisters (who sometimes were annoying, but then I was too), obeying all my parents' rules (which were limitless lol) and respecting him, Mom, and authority figures (including teachers). However, when I was doing my homework, my chores, being nice, obeying, and respecting, then I knew 100% sure that when I asked for something reasonable, he'd very happily give it to me, if he thought I was ready and it was good for me. For example, if at age 10 I had asked for a car, he would say Not Yet. (God says Not Yet a lot too, when people aren't ready.) Prayer is not something to try to get what one wants. It is sad that for some reason, prayer today has become seen as demanding wishes from a genie. Prayer for Christians is communicating with our Heavenly Father. Communication is a very vital part of any relationship and goes both ways. As a human, my responsibility is not to simply ask God for things. My responsibility is to communicate my love for God. Now, I can also definitely ask for things, but I need to take into consideration that just stopping prayer because I don't get what I want is not communicating love for God at all. Rather, it communicates, "I just want to use you God in order to get what I want, but if you don't give me what I want, then goodbye!" That's not love! If I did that to my Dad, just stop talking to him if he didn't give me whatever I wanted, then that would show that I don't truly love him and was just trying to use him. However, people who truly love God cling even tighter to Him when they don't get what they want. Job is a prime example for this. Even when his wife encouraged him to curse God and die, he continued to love God and trust in Him. Job 1:20-21 is a very important lesson for those who want something from God: "20 At this, Job got up and tore his robe and shaved his head. Then he fell to the ground in worship 21 and said:“Naked I came from my mother’s womb, and naked I will depart. The Lord gave and the Lord has taken away; may the name of the Lord be praised.” (NIV) Job did not ask for the horrible troubles he endured because God allowed, but he understood that God is not a genie. He understood that God allows troubles as well as answers prayer. If you don't believe in God, that's your call. Bad things and good things happen to both people who believe in God and people who don't believe in God. However, God isn't a servant that humbly gives whatever people ask him. Christians believe that God is the ruler of the universe and as such deserves obedience and love even when He is not doing what we want. Edited September 14, 2012 by BetheButterfly 3 Link to post Share on other sites
yessy21 Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 I believe God put my husband and me together. We were both praying and asking God for our soulmates and both striving to live according to God's Word and He answered with bringing us together on plentyoffish.com lol!!! God works in mysterious ways! One of my favorite stories in the Bible is how Isaac and Rebekah got together, accounted in Genesis 24. Now, it's not all that romantic. Fact is, it sounds downright old-fashioned because in that time and culture, marriages were arranged by the parents. However, I do think that Isaac and Rebekah were very much in love and had a great marriage, though they both were very different and were not perfect. My husband and I are very different from each other and aren't perfect either, but I thank God everyday for bringing us together (he does too... we pray together which is how I know) and we are falling more and more in love with each other each day, which is hard cause we were head over heads in love when we finally met face-to-face for the first time!!! I met my love at plenty of fish also! Lmao 1 Link to post Share on other sites
BetheButterfly Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 Why do you attribute that to god though? There are plenty of explanations, why do you zero in on that particular one with such certainty? Good question. I attribute my husband and I meeting to God because of the following factors: 1. We were both asking Him the same request (soulmate who loves God). 2. Because we lived in separate states, we also had to pray for a job and separate living quarters (I wasn't going to live with my Love before marriage) for me in his state. 3. I went to an interview for a job where the people are very specific as to who/what they want for the position. I know there were many applicants for this position. After I returned to my own state, they offered me the job, which included living quarters! 4. Another prayer request was for my parents to approve of him. I had been married before without my parents' approval. My Mom had decided I shouldn't even consider marrying another Latino. (She's not racist but she did generalize that the machismo idea was in every Latino, which isn't true. Thankfully, she knows that is not the case now!) 5. Both my parents absolutely love and adore him and 100% approve!!! 6. God has provided all we need, from the moment Samuel first met me till now. 7. Our love grows stronger each day, though that's hard for me to understand how it is possible, because we already love each other so much. I guess it's like growing in height. ? 2 Link to post Share on other sites
ImperfectionisBeauty Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 Well I was on POF too and just met a bunch of losers who wanted to have sex with me yay! I absolutely prayed a ton for a guy and I met someone and then he dumped me so what does that say for God? I honestly prayed every single day while I was with my ex to make me the kind of person he wanted to be with and to not let it end and thanking him for bringing someone in my life and what happened? Oh yeah I got dumped.. Thanks God.. Really appreciate that... Link to post Share on other sites
ImperfectionisBeauty Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 I met my love at plenty of fish also! Lmao I don't see how anyone meets any person of substance on pof.. that's just my personal experience Link to post Share on other sites
Author hardlybreathing Posted September 14, 2012 Author Share Posted September 14, 2012 I think there all kinds of people on interenet dating sites. You just have to be wise with whom you talk to and meet in person. You can be any one you want to be on the internet! I personally don't know if God puts couples together, I would like to think so; however, I do know that if you are a christian and you mesh with a non-christian, the relationship will be very difficult and if it should progress to marriage, the couple will have problems into becoming one. Which is God's plan for marriage. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
BetheButterfly Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 Well I was on POF too and just met a bunch of losers who wanted to have sex with me yay! I absolutely prayed a ton for a guy and I met someone and then he dumped me so what does that say for God? I honestly prayed every single day while I was with my ex to make me the kind of person he wanted to be with and to not let it end and thanking him for bringing someone in my life and what happened? Oh yeah I got dumped.. Thanks God.. Really appreciate that... Again, God isn't a genie. As for praying that God would make you to be the kind of person your ex wants (if contrary to what God wants), then that's not Biblical. God wants us to grow in loving Him and loving others, not in being a person that some guy wants you to be. You shouldn't have to change who you are in order to keep a guy. God isn't a tool to use to give you a guy and then change you to keep said guy, no. God loves you. God wants a relationship with you first, before He will match you up with a man who also has a relationship with Him. It's like a triangle with God being the top angle. If you don't want a relationship with God and with a man who also has a relationship with God, you are free to go the way of the world. Again, God is not a tool to use to give you a guy and make you stay together. God is our Heavenly Father, not a Being to use for what we want. 5 Link to post Share on other sites
ImperfectionisBeauty Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 I just think it is dumb to think that God actually cares I mean there are tons of Christian women who are with abusive men that God led them to... What's that say? Of course you got lucky and met a decent guy on a dating site but that's so rare I mean I think I know of 2 people who that's worked for out of the billion and one that use dating sites. I'm sure there are some Christian ones on there too who just met losers. I honestly am starting to think its just luck. Don't get me wrong I want to believe in God but he needs to like do something to prove to me he is getting all these prayers I send up there.. Like send me a nice cute boy Link to post Share on other sites
ImperfectionisBeauty Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 The problem with that is then your relationship with God becomes shallow. It becomes more like a business arrangement with conditions strapped to it than a relationship. If you start saying, "I'll follow you only if you give me x," then you're not actually loving God, at all. You're just using Him. I'd like to think that God helps us meet the right person for us (though I don't believe there's just one person for any person in the entire world) but we must do our fair share of the work. We must follow His teachings in the Bible which TFW listed out, and only seek out those with those qualities. Then you will see God's approval and success for your relationship. If you don't want a godly man, then I guess you don't need to pray for him. I believe God works in ways that sometimes we don't understand, and sometimes, when He doesn't deliver what we want Him to, when we want Him to, we have a tendency to throw a hissy fit. He has three answers "yes," "no," and "not yet." Perhaps, His answer is "not yet," for you, and when He knows the time is right, and you're ready, it'll change to "Yes." I recommend watching the video the Final Word posted with Rick Warren, titled Find The Love Of Your Life. Maybe I will just do my own thing for a while and find a guy I want on my own terms and then go back to my religion once I actually meet someone.. It's a win win. I believe in God but as of right now he isn't giving me what I need and I probably should just go do what I want. Link to post Share on other sites
mercy Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 Maybe I will just do my own thing for a while and find a guy I want on my own terms and then go back to my religion once I actually meet someone.. It's a win win. I believe in God but as of right now he isn't giving me what I need and I probably should just go do what I want. Second post today that has reminded me of Charlie Sheen and his - WINNING! Link to post Share on other sites
BetheButterfly Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 I really don't see anything remarkable about any of them, sorry. Nothing requries divine intervention, just two people looking for a compatible partner and evidently working their way through plenty of non-starters before the law of averages kicked in. The chain of events leading to practically any statistically mundane event can be seen as remarkable, so long as you assume the final outcome as fated or pre-ordained. Consider all the things in both our lives that led us to be discussing this point on Loveshack. Every conversation, a chance link or recommendation that led either of us to check this site out. When viewed through that lense, it's astonishing that anything manages to happen at all. Hello QuickJoe, My purpose in life is not to convince you how and why I have been blessed with an amazing and wonderful man who shares the same faith as me. I merely answered your question because you asked. My purpose in life is to love God, love others, and enjoy the amazing journey of life! So, in addition to doubting God bringing my husband and me together, if you also doubt my love for my husband, then obviously time with tell. With doubting God's existence, time will tell that too... Some people doubt the existence of love, especially when people they know betray or abandon them. They then merely define love in terms of chemicals, instead of the action-oriented powerful force that it is. And, many of them fail to experience true love. That is the same with God. Many people doubt God, especially when life doesn't go their way. They then merely deny His existence and try to attribute life to chance. And, many of them fail to experience God. Humans are diverse. It's only natural for people not to agree with or accept the answers others give them to questions they ask about others' personal lives. People disagree on everything, from which is better - coffee or tea, to important political issues and potential solutions. The important thing is that we respect and care for each other, as well as care for the amazing earth we share as our living quarters. Again, as for our differences, time will tell. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
BetheButterfly Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 Maybe I will just do my own thing for a while and find a guy I want on my own terms and then go back to my religion once I actually meet someone.. It's a win win. I believe in God but as of right now he isn't giving me what I need and I probably should just go do what I want. Do what you want. God is a Gentleman. He does not force you to follow His guidelines. However, please also note that God allows people to suffer the consequences of not following His guidelines. Guidelines are to protect people. My parents taught me NOT to touch the hot stove. Why? So I wouldn't get burned. However, if I disobeyed (and thankfully I didn't disobey that one) I would suffer the consequence of getting burned. So, be careful, k? There's a lot of people out there who don't truly love and don't truly care about the people they screw. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
TheFinalWord Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 Do what you want. God is a Gentleman. He does not force you to follow His guidelines. However, please also note that God allows people to suffer the consequences of not following His guidelines. Guidelines are to protect people. My parents taught me NOT to touch the hot stove. Why? So I wouldn't get burned. However, if I disobeyed (and thankfully I didn't disobey that one) I would suffer the consequence of getting burned. So, be careful, k? There's a lot of people out there who don't truly love and don't truly care about the people they screw. Is there a love button? This should be a sticky post in the dating forum. So much pain there. Link to post Share on other sites
ImperfectionisBeauty Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 Do what you want. God is a Gentleman. He does not force you to follow His guidelines. However, please also note that God allows people to suffer the consequences of not following His guidelines. Guidelines are to protect people. My parents taught me NOT to touch the hot stove. Why? So I wouldn't get burned. However, if I disobeyed (and thankfully I didn't disobey that one) I would suffer the consequence of getting burned. So, be careful, k? There's a lot of people out there who don't truly love and don't truly care about the people they screw. I didn't mention anything about screwing anyone, even though I obviously want that too. I just don't understand Gods guidelines, I mean I want a guy who believes in God but I don't want someone super overly religious. You waited to move in with you husband until you were married? I don't think you can fully know someone until you live with them, I'm not going to wait on that, I'm not going to wait for sex until marriage because I'm already not a virgin so sex isn't like super special at this point. I can handle a religious guy but not overly because thats too much, so if God can give me that cool but if not I can get it on my own. I don't think that the consequences of my actions can get much worse than they already have been. Link to post Share on other sites
BetheButterfly Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 (edited) I didn't mention anything about screwing anyone, even though I obviously want that too. Oh boy I didn't mean that you were screwing anybody lol! I used that word for its double meaning. It can mean, "Oh, he screwed me over!" which doesn't necessarily mean sex at all, but rather is a negative term for someone not doing right or for burglary. It can also mean sex, but is a negative, quite vulgar, and crude word for sex. I was warning you. There's a lot of guys out there who just want to use you, not love you. They don't know what love is. Maybe it is because they have never experienced it, or maybe they were betrayed or abandoned by someone they loved who should have loved them in return. Regardless, there are many guys (and girls) out there who just use people, hence why I warned about those who screw people. I didn't mean it as just a crude sexual term. I just don't understand Gods guidelines,I understand that. There are many things about God I don't understand. For example, I don't appreciate the concept of pain. I would rather nobody felt pain ever (emotional pain or physical pain) though I do like the concept of feeling pleasure. I mean I want a guy who believes in God but I don't want someone super overly religious. There are people like that. You waited to move in with you husband until you were married?Yep I don't think you can fully know someone until you live with them,Getting to truly know someone takes a lifetime. One of the biggest issues I hear today is that many people, even those who live together before getting married, get upset when their partner changes. Change is a part of life, but change can happen no matter if a couple lived together before marriage or not. There are some people who change for the better during their lifespan, and there are others who change in negative ways. My husband has a fear that his wifey will change for the worse in getting overweight. He mentioned that fear early on and we talked about it. My family has issues with weight, but I make a point to eat healthy and work out, because I do not want to make this change of gaining weight which my husband fears. Now, I can. I could most definitely physically change by overeating, but I don't want to! However, again, moving in with someone before marriage does not mean that you will truly know them how they will be for all their lifespan. Life is a journey where changes happen. I'm not going to wait on that, I'm not going to wait for sex until marriage because I'm already not a virgin so sex isn't like super special at this point.Sex is super special even if a person is a virgin or not! If you romantically and truly love someone, sex becomes an incredibly deep and special climatic experience that seals the physical and emotional connection!! Don't worry about not being a virgin anymore. God forgives. If you don't want to wait till after marriage, that's your choice. However, remember that actions bring consequences. I can handle a religious guy but not overly because thats too much, so if God can give me that cool but if not I can get it on my own. I don't think that the consequences of my actions can get much worse than they already have been.Have you been hurt??? It sounds like someone hurt you badly. I am so sorry. I am not a counselor, but it would be good to talk to someone who is a professional who can help you. If you do (want to) love God, there are wonderful lady counselors who can help you who also love God. It is your choice if you would like to talk with a lady counselor who loves God. If so, then you can go to a church and ask to talk with a woman about your life. Make sure however to talk with them in a room with a glass in the door. Never ever meet with a counselor or spiritual leader in private where others cannot see what is going on, ok? Horribly, there are bad people everywhere, even in churches. If you want to go the way of the world, that is your choice. Edited September 15, 2012 by BetheButterfly 1 Link to post Share on other sites
ImperfectionisBeauty Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 Oh boy I didn't mean that you were screwing anybody lol! I used that word for its double meaning. It can mean, "Oh, he screwed me over!" which doesn't necessarily mean sex at all, but rather is a negative term for someone not doing right or for burglary. It can also mean sex, but is a negative, quite vulgar, and crude word for sex. I was warning you. There's a lot of guys out there who just want to use you, not love you. They don't know what love is. Maybe it is because they have never experienced it, or maybe they were betrayed or abandoned by someone they loved who should have loved them in return. Regardless, there are many guys (and girls) out there who just use people, hence why I warned about those who screw people. I didn't mean it as just a crude sexual term. I understand that. There are many things about God I don't understand. For example, I don't appreciate the concept of pain. I would rather nobody felt pain ever (emotional pain or physical pain) though I do like the concept of feeling pleasure. There are people like that. Yep Getting to truly know someone takes a lifetime. One of the biggest issues I hear today is that many people, even those who live together before getting married, get upset when their partner changes. Change is a part of life, but change can happen no matter if a couple lived together before marriage or not. There are some people who change for the better during their lifespan, and there are others who change in negative ways. My husband has a fear that his wifey will change for the worse in getting overweight. He mentioned that fear early on and we talked about it. My family has issues with weight, but I make a point to eat healthy and work out, because I do not want to make this change of gaining weight which my husband fears. Now, I can. I could most definitely physically change by overeating, but I don't want to! However, again, moving in with someone before marriage does not mean that you will truly know them how they will be for all their lifespan. Life is a journey where changes happen. Sex is super special even if a person is a virgin or not! If you romantically and truly love someone, sex becomes an incredibly deep and special climatic experience that seals the physical and emotional connection!! Don't worry about not being a virgin anymore. God forgives. If you don't want to wait till after marriage, that's your choice. However, remember that actions bring consequences. Have you been hurt??? It sounds like someone hurt you badly. I am so sorry. I am not a counselor, but it would be good to talk to someone who is a professional who can help you. If you do (want to) love God, there are wonderful lady counselors who can help you who also love God. It is your choice if you would like to talk with a lady counselor who loves God. If so, then you can go to a church and ask to talk with a woman about your life. Make sure however to talk with them in a room with a glass in the door. Never ever meet with a counselor or spiritual leader in private where others cannot see what is going on, ok? Horribly, there are bad people everywhere, even in churches. If you want to go the way of the world, that is your choice. So just out of curiosity how long did you have to pray before you got your husband?? Because like I said I don't have forever and a day to be praying to God hoping he does something.. ANYTHING in my life.. I mean he isn't doing anything I know people say "oh well you woke up alive and in your right mind" but in actuality to me that is just chance.. More than likely that would happen no matter what. Link to post Share on other sites
BetheButterfly Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 So just out of curiosity how long did you have to pray before you got your husband?? I got married for the first time at age 23. I was a virgin and was infatuated with a very charismatic and virile man. My parents didn't approve, but I didn't listen to them. Some people get into relationships with people who God truly does not want them to get into relationships with, and my parents understood that. They did not think my first husband was a bad man, but rather understood that our personalities were not good together. I wish I had listened to them. I wish I had not married him. We divorced after almost 5 years of marriage, and he is now married to a wonderful lady who he matches with so much better than him and me! I also am blessed to be married to a wonderful man who is perfect for me, whereas my first husband and I were not perfect for each other! After the divorce, I got into issues by dating other men, including a Muslim man, a Hindu man, an Atheist man, and a nominal Catholic man. I was quite confused, as you can see, as to God's direction for me. I just wanted to be loved by a wonderful man, you know? However, once I experienced God on a personal level (not just hearing about Him but rather personally experiencing Him), I realized that my motivations were off. I was idolizing a man... I was centering all my reason for existing on finding a man and being happy with him. That's when my wait actually began! I began to pray that God brings into my life a wonderful, handsome (yes I stressed handsome, sorry if that's bad) man who loves God and loves me. I waited for 3 years and sometimes they felt like a thousand years lol!!! One reason is because I love sex and another is i adore feeling loved and adored by the man of my choosing!!! I made mistakes along the way. I slept with a man who really didn't want anything but a friends with benefits relationship with me, and that really hurt me emotionally. I couldn't understand why he didn't want me to be his girlfriend and later on, wife. However, God comforted me, and I got over it without any bitterness against that guy! What attracted me to my Love's profile on the online dating site is a verse he quoted from Ecclesiastes, plus his public love for God. I didn't write him though, cause he said he wanted to meet a lady who can sing or plays musical instruments. I can sing but am not a soloist. He wrote me later and the following really helped us understand that we are each other's Special Someone: 1. We centered our relationship on who is the most important to us: God. 2. We talked for hours everyday on the phone (we were long-distance) and built a foundation of being brother/sister in Christ plus being friends first. 3. We cast away all other options. He took his profile down first, telling me why as he did so. I was surprised, because by this time I was used to other guys "keeping their options open." I very happily took my profile down too!!! He was serous about me!!! He didn't just want to use me and move on to a prettier model! That was when I asked God, 'Wow! Is he the one?" 4. We begin to care for each other and for each other's families, not out of politeness, but out of a knitting of our souls together. 5. When we first met in person, the chemical attraction was overwhelming, more than any other chemical attraction I have ever felt in my life!!! 6. We obeyed God's commands because we love God, and our wedding night later on was the bomb!!! (a good bomb, not a destructive one) 7. We have been married for a year now, and I have never once regretted marrying him. Rather, we love each other more and more each day! Because like I said I don't have forever and a day to be praying to God hoping he does something.. ANYTHING in my life.. I mean he isn't doing anything I know people say "oh well you woke up alive and in your right mind" but in actuality to me that is just chance.. More than likely that would happen no matter what. If you study Jesus' words in the Bible, it is interesting that the miracles he did, he did for those who had faith, not for those who didn't. There is a power in positive thinking. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
ImperfectionisBeauty Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 I got married for the first time at age 23. I was a virgin and was infatuated with a very charismatic and virile man. My parents didn't approve, but I didn't listen to them. Some people get into relationships with people who God truly does not want them to get into relationships with, and my parents understood that. They did not think my first husband was a bad man, but rather understood that our personalities were not good together. I wish I had listened to them. I wish I had not married him. We divorced after almost 5 years of marriage, and he is now married to a wonderful lady who he matches with so much better than him and me! I also am blessed to be married to a wonderful man who is perfect for me, whereas my first husband and I were not perfect for each other! After the divorce, I got into issues by dating other men, including a Muslim man, a Hindu man, an Atheist man, and a nominal Catholic man. I was quite confused, as you can see, as to God's direction for me. I just wanted to be loved by a wonderful man, you know? However, once I experienced God on a personal level (not just hearing about Him but rather personally experiencing Him), I realized that my motivations were off. I was idolizing a man... I was centering all my reason for existing on finding a man and being happy with him. That's when my wait actually began! I began to pray that God brings into my life a wonderful, handsome (yes I stressed handsome, sorry if that's bad) man who loves God and loves me. I waited for 3 years and sometimes they felt like a thousand years lol!!! One reason is because I love sex and another is i adore feeling loved and adored by the man of my choosing!!! I made mistakes along the way. I slept with a man who really didn't want anything but a friends with benefits relationship with me, and that really hurt me emotionally. I couldn't understand why he didn't want me to be his girlfriend and later on, wife. However, God comforted me, and I got over it without any bitterness against that guy! What attracted me to my Love's profile on the online dating site is a verse he quoted from Ecclesiastes, plus his public love for God. I didn't write him though, cause he said he wanted to meet a lady who can sing or plays musical instruments. I can sing but am not a soloist. He wrote me later and the following really helped us understand that we are each other's Special Someone: 1. We centered our relationship on who is the most important to us: God. 2. We talked for hours everyday on the phone (we were long-distance) and built a foundation of being brother/sister in Christ plus being friends first. 3. We cast away all other options. He took his profile down first, telling me why as he did so. I was surprised, because by this time I was used to other guys "keeping their options open." I very happily took my profile down too!!! He was serous about me!!! He didn't just want to use me and move on to a prettier model! That was when I asked God, 'Wow! Is he the one?" 4. We begin to care for each other and for each other's families, not out of politeness, but out of a knitting of our souls together. 5. When we first met in person, the chemical attraction was overwhelming, more than any other chemical attraction I have ever felt in my life!!! 6. We obeyed God's commands because we love God, and our wedding night later on was the bomb!!! (a good bomb, not a destructive one) 7. We have been married for a year now, and I have never once regretted marrying him. Rather, we love each other more and more each day! If you study Jesus' words in the Bible, it is interesting that the miracles he did, he did for those who had faith, not for those who didn't. There is a power in positive thinking. The thing is I do/did believe. I believe in God and I don't want to say the stuff I have said but I need more. I need him to show me something.. anything because right now everything that has happened to me can be explain as bad luck haha. I feel like there is no way that your life can just be as fairytale as you make it out to be and the only explaination is god. Athetists get into relationships too and have just as good marriages and they aren't forced to wait for sex and stuff like that. I am not an athetist but I feel like I can believe in God and not have to be so strict. I mean I am not sure how old you are but I assume around early thirties but I can't wait until I am in my 30s to meet someone and get married and have babies that just doesn't work for me. I don't know what to do because like I said I want to believe but I need some evidence instead of just blindly following some... book of moral stories. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
BetheButterfly Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 The thing is I do/did believe. I believe in God and I don't want to say the stuff I have said but I need more. I need him to show me something.. anything because right now everything that has happened to me can be explain as bad luck haha. I feel like there is no way that your life can just be as fairytale as you make it out to be and the only explaination is god. Athetists get into relationships too and have just as good marriages and they aren't forced to wait for sex and stuff like that. I am not an athetist but I feel like I can believe in God and not have to be so strict. I mean I am not sure how old you are but I assume around early thirties but I can't wait until I am in my 30s to meet someone and get married and have babies that just doesn't work for me. I don't know what to do because like I said I want to believe but I need some evidence instead of just blindly following some... book of moral stories. Understood. Listen, I can't nor do I want to convince you of anything. I just can explain what I experience. If you would like to be Facebook friends, pm me, k? I will send you my account name. I have to go now because I help with the babies in the church nursery, and there's service starting at 6. My husband likes to be early and technically, nursery helpers are supposed to be early too. Blessings, and whatever you choose or believe, no matter if you decide no longer to believe in God or not, I hope you have a wonderful life!!! I also hope you meet a wonderful man!!!! Link to post Share on other sites
ImperfectionisBeauty Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 I would like to be fb friends I don't know how to pm but can I just put my email on here? Link to post Share on other sites
ImperfectionisBeauty Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 MMmkkkkayyyyy. I honestly think you just hate me because of the engaged man thing.. seriously it isn't that big of a deal. I don't think I am asking too much of God I mean he does move mountains and do all this other stuff I think a simple relationship shouldn't be too hard for him. Link to post Share on other sites
ImperfectionisBeauty Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 1) I don't hate you or anyone 2) God is not a toy. 3) I have forgotten more life than you have lived. 4) Internet forum...don't take everything to heart...most of us got other things that really matter going on and posting is a stress reliever. 5)You spoke of the engaged man...what would God say about that? I know that God isn't a toy but he is supposed to work for you if you believe and pray which I did and he didn't. I'm sorry I just get really defensive about a lot of stuff. And finally God brought the engaged man into my life. I was ok before I met him, I mean I was still sad about my ex but I was a hell of a lot better than I am now ha. Link to post Share on other sites
Anela Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 I don't know. I know of several couples who seem to have been made for each other, and I could see it happening. I have a belief in reincarnation, which is all about people coming back together to learn certain things - I like the idea of it, because I like the idea of being together with the people I'm close to, in another life. For me, I feel like God, if he/she exists, has been responding to my relationship prayers (in the past) and other prayers, with something more along the lines of, "I fart in your general direction." I'm not that impressed with the results. Six-and-a-half years ago, when I was having a night where I felt very lonely, I wrote a letter to whatever is out there, asking when it would be my turn - and they sent me a douchebag, at a time when I really didn't need to encounter one (that I would actually have feelings for, and before I knew he was one). God has sent me guys who are bored in their relationships, or just looking to scratch an itch, or pining for the one who got away. My mother thinks I'm like my aunt Shari - a woman who regularly talks to a psychic. One day, she asked this woman, "Why don't you ever tell me that my knight in shining armour is coming along?" and the woman responded, "I don't think you really want one to come along, do you?" I've never wanted my self-esteem to rest on whether or not I have a man in my life, so maybe I've been "tested" that way. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Anela Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 Do what you want. God is a Gentleman. He does not force you to follow His guidelines. However, please also note that God allows people to suffer the consequences of not following His guidelines. Guidelines are to protect people. My parents taught me NOT to touch the hot stove. Why? So I wouldn't get burned. However, if I disobeyed (and thankfully I didn't disobey that one) I would suffer the consequence of getting burned. So, be careful, k? There's a lot of people out there who don't truly love and don't truly care about the people they screw. I don't mean to be rude when I say this, but I think he really needs to bring these guys with written instructions, if we're supposed to follow them so closely. "This guy's a douche. I brought him into your life so that you can stand up for yourself, and realize that you deserve better." I realized that I deserved better before I ever met him, and that did nothing for my self-esteem: being brought an ******* when I really needed someone good. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
ImperfectionisBeauty Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 Mmmm. You don't read the bible much do you? :confused:If you did you will know that we don't always get what we ask for and God does not tempt us to do wrong. But hey........ I don't actually, I go to church I listen and I know the basics (which at this point is about all I care to know) what is the point of asking for something if you don't get it? I understand that but I at least what to know no I am not getting it and if I am ever going to get it. If I have to prepare myself for a sucky alone life or if I need to just preoccupy myself with other things until I get someone. I don't think it is asking for too much to get that. And God obviously allowed Josh to contact me and us to cross paths again, he also obviously took him away so I actually did nothing wrong with him. Link to post Share on other sites
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