BetheButterfly Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 See that's the thing like I go to church and I believe in God but I don't. I can tell you don't. Anybody who thinks God is a fairy tale does not really believe in Him. By the way, I don't believe in Santa Claus and guess what? I don't write him letters asking for what I want for Christmas. And guess what? Santa Claus never gave me anything. A side note about Santa Claus, my parents didn't teach my sisters and me the secular Santa Claus story. I remember when I was 6 years old arguing with my Mom about him though at the mall, cause I saw him. It took her awhile to explain to me he was just an old man in a fake costume and beard... It is really hard to explain. I do believe in God and I want to have a better relationship with him but it isn't my top priority of things going on in my life. If you truly believed in God, you would not think He is a fairy tale. But I do go to church and I listen and I hope eventually one day I will be blessed with anything but it is really hard to just believe in something you have no evidence of. The reason you have not experienced God is because you don't want to. All you want is for Him to give you what you want. You have a "gimme, gimme" attitude that is not conducive to truly getting to know God, so of course you have no evidence/experience that He exists. I mean you all are telling all these stories about "oh I met this guy online and I just knew the minute I talked to him and I prayed for him or her" and that's great for you all but it makes no sense in the sense that there are way bigger things in life for God to care about but he put all his energy into finding you a man, If you think that God puts all His energy into finding a man for one of His spiritual daughters, you obviously don't know Him. and then he also allowed other non believer athetist and stuff to find good spouses? So what made your prayers more important than mine? My prayers are not more important than anyone elses. However, I don't use God as my personal genie either. I'm fully aware that God can and may in the future allow me to go through horrible trials, and I am willing to go through them, even be killed (not to kill, but to endure persecution) for Jesus. God looks at the heart, not just hears requests for "gimme, gimme" I just think a lot of people attribute random dumb luck to God instead of just being like.. I just got lucky. In the end you just got lucky, you join POF you are religious so you were looking for a religious man you happened to see a man who mentioned God in his profile and the rest just seems like luck. You may attribute it to luck, but I don't. I don't believe in luck. So you believe in luck then, hmm? Not God I mean I may as well become an atheist (I have no intent to) You already are, or are close to becoming so, which is fine and is your choice. Just don't expect anything from God. and take matters into my own hands than to wait for a million years on God. I would wish you luck but ... That is just how I feel, Aye, well obviously we "feel" differently. so I do believe but I think at some point you have to be logical with your belief. God completely satisfies me. If however luck is your logic, that's your choice. My ex is the one who really got to me to thinking about it because he has super weird religious views, he kind of thought that organized religion was like a cult that brainwashed people (which makes sense too) and he didn't believe in Jesus but he believed in God.. but it was more like he believed in God as kind like the Earth rather than some random man that sits in the clouds and grants prayers or wishes. I didn't necessarily believe his views but for the sake of not arguing with him constantly I did research it more and it doesn't seem too far off the mark. And when I was deep into prayer I was very serious about it, nothing happened then either except he brought me the most amazing perfect guy I have ever met then randomly took him away with no explanation so I think it makes sense why I am lacking faith at the moment. Tell me, do you just want to use God, or do you want to love Him unconditionally? God does not exist to give you what you want. Rather, He gives to His children according to His will. What He wants from people is love, not mere "gimme gimme!!!" Do you love God? I don't think you do. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
BetheButterfly Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Well, whomever is out there has a sense of humour that doesn't match mine. "She dared to question my existence on Loveshack; I'll give her some abnormal bleeding." I thought I felt like I was PMS'ing earlier, and it's a couple of weeks too soon. Yay. I won't hold my breath when it comes to meeting anyone good, but I'll let you all know if something good happens. I met my husband when I trusted in God, not when I was doubting. When Jesus healed people, it was because of their faith. The power of positive thinking is sadly underestimated by many people. As for God, He doesn't zap somebody with bleeding or other issues just because they question His existence or don't believe in Him. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
ImperfectionisBeauty Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 I can tell you don't. Anybody who thinks God is a fairy tale does not really believe in Him. By the way, I don't believe in Santa Claus and guess what? I don't write him letters asking for what I want for Christmas. And guess what? Santa Claus never gave me anything. A side note about Santa Claus, my parents didn't teach my sisters and me the secular Santa Claus story. I remember when I was 6 years old arguing with my Mom about him though at the mall, cause I saw him. It took her awhile to explain to me he was just an old man in a fake costume and beard... If you truly believed in God, you would not think He is a fairy tale. The reason you have not experienced God is because you don't want to. All you want is for Him to give you what you want. You have a "gimme, gimme" attitude that is not conducive to truly getting to know God, so of course you have no evidence/experience that He exists. If you think that God puts all His energy into finding a man for one of His spiritual daughters, you obviously don't know Him. My prayers are not more important than anyone elses. However, I don't use God as my personal genie either. I'm fully aware that God can and may in the future allow me to go through horrible trials, and I am willing to go through them, even be killed (not to kill, but to endure persecution) for Jesus. God looks at the heart, not just hears requests for "gimme, gimme" You may attribute it to luck, but I don't. I don't believe in luck. So you believe in luck then, hmm? Not God You already are, or are close to becoming so, which is fine and is your choice. Just don't expect anything from God. I would wish you luck but ... Aye, well obviously we "feel" differently. God completely satisfies me. If however luck is your logic, that's your choice. Tell me, do you just want to use God, or do you want to love Him unconditionally? God does not exist to give you what you want. Rather, He gives to His children according to His will. What He wants from people is love, not mere "gimme gimme!!!" Do you love God? I don't think you do. I don't think you can tell me whether or not I believe in God, since you don't know me. I never said God was a fairy tale I said your story is.. As in it's too good to be true and to have actually happened like that you randomly met some guy on pof and then everything just fell into place because of god? Like I said I think god has bigger things to worry about than hooking you up. And if you were so fully satisfied with God then why did you pray to be in a relationship at all? God should have been your husband.... I am not an atheist and I think that's evident by the fact that I still go to church I still pray even though I still haven't seen anything happen. I don't just ask god for things, I thank him for what he has given me despite how minimal it is. Like I said when I was with my ex I thanked him every single day for finally bringing someone in my life who I cared about and who cared about me who was like absolutely perfect for me. Obviously my thankful prayers weren't good enough because he dumped me after a month.. So yes I'm pretty damn pissed at God at this point. Link to post Share on other sites
taiko Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 If you are a single man and start attending church regularly in short order the single sisters will think God sent you for them. Now that you may be a work in progress seems to be missed by many 1 Link to post Share on other sites
BetheButterfly Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 I don't think you can tell me whether or not I believe in God, since you don't know me. I never said God was a fairy tale I said your story is.. What you write leads me to believe that you do not truly believe in God. It is interesting that this upsets you. As for you thinking my story is a fairy tale, obviously you don't know me either. If you did, you would know my husband and me are perfect for each other. As one of our friends has stated, one who knows us and knows we are not a fairy tale, "You and Sam are ying and yang." As in it's too good to be true and to have actually happened like that you randomly met some guy on pof and then everything just fell into place because of god? Like I said I think god has bigger things to worry about than hooking you up. Then why do you ask Him for a guy, if you think he has bigger things to worry about? And if you were so fully satisfied with God then why did you pray to be in a relationship at all? I believe God wants me to be in a relationship. God has different plans for different people, however. May His will be done. God should have been your husband.... Do you want God to be your husband? I am not an atheist and I think that's evident by the fact that I still go to church Do you think Atheists have never gone to church? I still pray even though I still haven't seen anything happen. I don't just ask god for things, I thank him for what he has given me despite how minimal it is. Like I said when I was with my ex I thanked him every single day for finally bringing someone in my life who I cared about and who cared about me who was like absolutely perfect for me. Obviously my thankful prayers weren't good enough because he dumped me after a month.. So yes I'm pretty damn pissed at God at this point. Be as pissed as you want. That just shows your heart is only willing to believe in God when He does what you want, not because you love Him. Job, by the way, praised God even when he lost almost everything... Job 1 (I boldened some.) Job 1 NIV - Prologue - In the land of Uz there - Bible Gateway "20 At this, Job got up and tore his robe and shaved his head. Then he fell to the ground in worship 21 and said:“Naked I came from my mother’s womb, and naked I will depart.[c] The Lord gave and the Lord has taken away; may the name of the Lord be praised.” 22 In all this, Job did not sin by charging God with wrongdoing." Job truly knew, trusted, and believed in God. He didn't see God as a genie. He also did not believe "In lust we trust." Rather, he confessed, "“I made a covenant with my eyes not to look lustfully at a young woman. 2 For what is our lot from God above, our heritage from the Almighty on high? 3 Is it not ruin for the wicked, disaster for those who do wrong? 4 Does he not see my ways and count my every step?" Job 31 - I boldened some above. Job 31 NIV - 1 Link to post Share on other sites
ImperfectionisBeauty Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 What you write leads me to believe that you do not truly believe in God. It is interesting that this upsets you. As for you thinking my story is a fairy tale, obviously you don't know me either. If you did, you would know my husband and me are perfect for each other. As one of our friends has stated, one who knows us and knows we are not a fairy tale, "You and Sam are ying and yang." Then why do you ask Him for a guy, if you think he has bigger things to worry about? I believe God wants me to be in a relationship. God has different plans for different people, however. May His will be done. Do you want God to be your husband? Do you think Atheists have never gone to church? Be as pissed as you want. That just shows your heart is only willing to believe in God when He does what you want, not because you love Him. Job, by the way, praised God even when he lost almost everything... Job 1 (I boldened some.) Job 1 NIV - Prologue - In the land of Uz there - Bible Gateway "20 At this, Job got up and tore his robe and shaved his head. Then he fell to the ground in worship 21 and said:“Naked I came from my mother’s womb, and naked I will depart.[c] The Lord gave and the Lord has taken away; may the name of the Lord be praised.” 22 In all this, Job did not sin by charging God with wrongdoing." Job truly knew, trusted, and believed in God. He didn't see God as a genie. He also did not believe "In lust we trust." Rather, he confessed, "“I made a covenant with my eyes not to look lustfully at a young woman. 2 For what is our lot from God above, our heritage from the Almighty on high? 3 Is it not ruin for the wicked, disaster for those who do wrong? 4 Does he not see my ways and count my every step?" Job 31 - I boldened some above. Job 31 NIV - Well I asked God because I figured nothing else is working so I should have faith and pray about it. I don't know you or your husband and at this point I don't care to, I have read other things you have said and you honestly seem like you live in a fairy tale.. Which is ok I guess but I live in the real world. Do I want god to be my husband absolutely not but I don't have the same strength of faith as you either so if you believe so much and just trust god so much you should have just been content being alone. Maybe it is my age, I'm probably too young to be in a serious relationship anyways but still. Link to post Share on other sites
BetheButterfly Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Well I asked God because I figured nothing else is working so I should have faith and pray about it. I don't know you or your husband and at this point I don't care to, I have read other things you have said and you honestly seem like you live in a fairy tale.. Which is ok I guess but I live in the real world. Do I want god to be my husband absolutely not but I don't have the same strength of faith as you either so if you believe so much and just trust god so much you should have just been content being alone. Maybe it is my age, I'm probably too young to be in a serious relationship anyways but still. Again, it is obvious that you don't know me or my husband, and since you don't care to, that is your decision. I am grateful to God for my life and how He has answered my prayer, while you doubt. Since you don't know me, you are not qualified to dub my life a "fairy tale" Now, if you knew me and could prove that my life is not a fairy tale, that would be different. However, since you are not even willing to get to know me, your speculation is merely unfounded assumption on your part. Since I know myself and my life, I write from my own experiences. You obviously have a lot to learn. I wish you the best. I hope someday you have a life that doubters would call a "fairy tale," because being loved by a husband who loves you rocks!!! Chao 1 Link to post Share on other sites
ImperfectionisBeauty Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Again, it is obvious that you don't know me or my husband, and since you don't care to, that is your decision. I am grateful to God for my life and how He has answered my prayer, while you doubt. Since you don't know me, you are not qualified to dub my life a "fairy tale" Now, if you knew me and could prove that my life is not a fairy tale, that would be different. However, since you are not even willing to get to know me, your speculation is merely unfounded assumption on your part. Since I know myself and my life, I write from my own experiences. You obviously have a lot to learn. I wish you the best. I hope someday you have a life that doubters would call a "fairy tale," because being loved by a husband who loves you rocks!!! Chao I'm sure it does but when that happens for me I'm definitely not going to paint my life like a fairy tale like you did. I am just going to be young and have fun and if god disapproves of what I'm doing I'm sure he can stop me. Link to post Share on other sites
ImperfectionisBeauty Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Yes, you are too young to be in a relationship. I am starting to think that.. I guess if I was a little older and had this problem it would be different. But then again a lot of my friends are in relationships serious ones at that. I mean look at the engaged guy I talked so much about he is 23 and getting married and has 2 kids. He has the perfect life. I know I can't measure my life to other people but it just sucks I'm really ready for a relationship and babies and a husband. I would gladly take the babies first then husband.. However it is delivered to me I will take Link to post Share on other sites
Eve Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 I am starting to think that.. I guess if I was a little older and had this problem it would be different. But then again a lot of my friends are in relationships serious ones at that. I mean look at the engaged guy I talked so much about he is 23 and getting married and has 2 kids. He has the perfect life. I know I can't measure my life to other people but it just sucks I'm really ready for a relationship and babies and a husband. I would gladly take the babies first then husband.. However it is delivered to me I will take Have you had a relationship previously? Are your friends all paired up at the moment or something? Take care, Eve x Link to post Share on other sites
ImperfectionisBeauty Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Have you had a relationship previously? Are your friends all paired up at the moment or something? Take care, Eve x I was in a LDR for a year and a half and it wasn't really.. It was just kind of pointless I didn't end it bitter or anything I was fine. I was with a guy recently who I cared about so much and it only lasted a month but it was the most intense month ever and I liked him a lot and he randomly dumped me and it is the most serious relationship I have ever had. Most of my friends are in relationships (that will probably lead to marriage soon) or starting new relationships. Link to post Share on other sites
Eve Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 I was in a LDR for a year and a half and it wasn't really.. It was just kind of pointless I didn't end it bitter or anything I was fine. I was with a guy recently who I cared about so much and it only lasted a month but it was the most intense month ever and I liked him a lot and he randomly dumped me and it is the most serious relationship I have ever had. Most of my friends are in relationships (that will probably lead to marriage soon) or starting new relationships. Sounds like the break is still really fresh for you. *Hugs* Why did he break up with you? Was he a Christian? Try not to pressure yourself. I always say that the learning process never switches off. Give yourself time to process what has happened and to consider what you are looking for. As for your friends, try to still schedule time with them so you don't feel too isolated. Take care, Eve x Link to post Share on other sites
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