Titanwolf Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 Forgive me if I'm spamming, I'd just like someone to answer a question for me. If being gay is seen as so wrong and unnatural, why did God create the male body with a prostate that can be stimulated during intercourse involving two men?. Assuming God is omniscient, why wouldn't he account for such a thing?. Fair enough it serves an alternative function, but why is it even a possibility, that it can be stimulated during such an act. It almost seems as though it's there specifically to cater for homosexuals. Would it be wrong for me to assume that segments of the Bible have been fabricated in order to combat some form of "threat" homosexual people propose?. I've thought about it a lot and spoken to a friend about it and she came to the conclusion that homosexual is completely natural. Perhaps that even explains why the female clitoris is located externally, to cater for gay females as well?. Purely speculation here, I can only assume considering that anything that pertains to religion can never be resolved with a definitive answer :/ I want some insight though. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Ross MwcFan Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 It's funny how some people see it as unatural. If it was unatural then it wouldn't exist. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Crusoe Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 (edited) If you knew the prostates real purpose it becomes fairly obvious why it could be stimulated during such an act. Edited September 22, 2012 by Crusoe 1 Link to post Share on other sites
TaraMaiden Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 In early foetal stages, the baby's sex is not yet determined, so both have an external appendage. in females it's the clitoris, in males it develops further into a penis. Clitoris and penis are the same organ, in origin. Some men have very small penises, some women have extremely large clitorises. it just depends on how development..... develops. Homosexuality was once considered a more sacred state than being heterosexual. Both the Greeks and the Romans considered homosexual love to be more pure and precious than being in love with a woman. it was quite normal for a man to indulge in heterosexual love for procreation, and homosexual love for recreation... I cannot say why or how homosexuality became 'sinful' but in one biblical passage, Lot offers his daughters to the raged hordes outside his home, for them to be raped, instead of his sons being Sodomised (the very word is derived form the Biblical city of Sodom). so women were very much seen as a commodity, whilst sons and their chastity was more important. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Author Titanwolf Posted September 22, 2012 Author Share Posted September 22, 2012 In early foetal stages, the baby's sex is not yet determined, so both have an external appendage. in females it's the clitoris, in males it develops further into a penis. Clitoris and penis are the same organ, in origin. Some men have very small penises, some women have extremely large clitorises. it just depends on how development..... develops. Homosexuality was once considered a more sacred state than being heterosexual. Both the Greeks and the Romans considered homosexual love to be more pure and precious than being in love with a woman. it was quite normal for a man to indulge in heterosexual love for procreation, and homosexual love for recreation... I cannot say why or how homosexuality became 'sinful' but in one biblical passage, Lot offers his daughters to the raged hordes outside his home, for them to be raped, instead of his sons being Sodomised (the very word is derived form the Biblical city of Sodom). so women were very much seen as a commodity, whilst sons and their chastity was more important. Thank you, I didn't know that. That sheds new light (for me at least) in my research. I HAVE to look more into that. Link to post Share on other sites
TaraMaiden Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 by the way - females also have a Prostate Gland. Something I omitted to mention in my first post. for proof, see here. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Author Titanwolf Posted September 22, 2012 Author Share Posted September 22, 2012 by the way - females also have a Prostate Gland. Something I omitted to mention in my first post. for proof, see here. My goodness. I thought I knew all there was to know. Reading now.. Link to post Share on other sites
TaraMaiden Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 Some people for reasons unknown just find the same sex attractive. Nobody really knows why. Reminds me of the wonderful answer a gay friend of mine gave, to someone who asked him, "When did you first realise you were homosexual?" Reply: "When did you first realise you were heterosexual?" 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Hawaii50 Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 nothing like a little massagey >>wink-wink, nudge-nudge<< Link to post Share on other sites
irin Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 oh come on even animals are gay. Link to post Share on other sites
Hawaii50 Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Never underestimate humanity's capacity to isolate and hate those who are different to the norms established by the group. It's tribe-think, and it's still depressingly prevalent to this day. It is something we are slowly outgrowing, but many are heavily invested in the comfort of the status quo and groupthink. It will be an uphill battle. Not as long as religion has it's grip. just sayin' Link to post Share on other sites
ImperfectionisBeauty Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 I personally don't believe in "born gay" I think it is a choice, and I don't believe in homosexual marriage (I know that isn't the question) these are my only thoughts about gayness. Otherwise I couldn't care less I just kind of want to whole gay marriage thing fight to end. Link to post Share on other sites
Hawaii50 Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 I personally don't believe in "born gay" I think it is a choice, and I don't believe in homosexual marriage (I know that isn't the question) these are my only thoughts about gayness. Otherwise I couldn't care less I just kind of want to whole gay marriage thing fight to end. of course, because you were born Hetero. Just like how you cannot fathom what it's like to meander around all day with a dong between your legs, you were born a girl. Link to post Share on other sites
irin Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 the thing that irritates me the most is those who have believes about others being wrong yet themselves, indulge in activities that are considered to be sinful, in their so called "religions" 1 Link to post Share on other sites
ImperfectionisBeauty Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Gay people go through hell, particularly from religious extremist and hateful people. Do you really think somebody chooses to go through that? Not all gay people go through hell. I may not be for gay rights or whatever but I never treat anyone any differently. I just don't think God would make someone gay when he blatantly says no man shall lie with a another and the same for women. That's my beliefs Link to post Share on other sites
ImperfectionisBeauty Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 At this point, I should point out that nobody is obligated to care about what you personally believe about something. You can have all the unfounded and inane beliefs you like, but if you care about truth at all, you'd make a cursory attempt to check if your personal beliefs map to reality in any way. I could ask you what research or thinking you've done to come up with "gay is a choice!", but I already know the answer, so I won't. Educate yourself. The moar you know... You give your irrelevant opinion on here all the time I'm certainly entitled to mine Link to post Share on other sites
ImperfectionisBeauty Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Of course everybody is entitled to their opinions, just don't expect yours to be worth anything in the marketplace of ideas if you don't bother to check if they accurately reflect reality. They are my opinions and numerous people agree which is why gay marriage is only legal in 8 out of 50 states Link to post Share on other sites
thatone Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 (edited) They are my opinions and numerous people agree which is why gay marriage is only legal in 8 out of 50 states the same bigots like you were claiming that segregation was the "will of god" 50 years ago. but there aren't any more white only schools are there? Of course everybody is entitled to their opinions, just don't expect yours to be worth anything in the marketplace of ideas if you don't bother to check if they accurately reflect reality. no they aren't. anyone who publicly declares that they intend to exclude other people from some form of public life based on gender or race opens the door to being sued, and they'll lose. and it's only a matter of time before sexual orientation is added to that list as well. Edited September 23, 2012 by thatone Link to post Share on other sites
ImperfectionisBeauty Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 the same bigots like you were claiming that segregation was the "will of god" 50 years ago. but there aren't any more white only schools are there? no they aren't. anyone who publicly declares that they intend to exclude other people from some form of public life based on gender or race opens the door to being sued, and they'll lose. and it's only a matter of time before sexual orientation is added to that list as well. The funny thing is I'm black. Obviously you can't choose skin color which is why segregation was eventually overturned. I don't like the fact that people who are against gay marriage are "homophobes" and "bigots", maybe we just have certain beliefs and morals and values? Also it comes down to either or not marriage is a right or a privilege. Equal education is a right. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
ImperfectionisBeauty Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Cool, well I guess as long as there are people who agree with you, you can't be wrong. Brillant! It's not that at all but people who feel like I do vote, and they vote based on their values and feelings. Link to post Share on other sites
Woggle Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 It's not that at all but people who feel like I do vote, and they vote based on their values and feelings. True but it shouldn't be up to a vote. You shouldn't be able to vote a person's rights away. The Bible is no more against gays than it is against shrimp eating but I don't see anybody railing against shrimp and using it as an issue to get elected the way republicans beat up on gays for political gain. It's simply an excuse to be bigots. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
ImperfectionisBeauty Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 True but it shouldn't be up to a vote. You shouldn't be able to vote a person's rights away. The Bible is no more against gays than it is against shrimp eating but I don't see anybody railing against shrimp and using it as an issue to get elected the way republicans beat up on gays for political gain. It's simply an excuse to be bigots. But is marriage a right or privilege? That's the issue which is why it is votable. Link to post Share on other sites
ImperfectionisBeauty Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Thanks for reminding me that people vote and elect leaders based on ignorance. It's just as ignorant of you to believe what you're saying is correct. Both sides can be argued. Link to post Share on other sites
Woggle Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 But is marriage a right or privilege? That's the issue which is why it is votable. It should be a right. Look at all the people who are cheating, abusing their spouses taking them for granted and treating them like crap and trashing them behind their backs. What do gays have to do with any of that? Link to post Share on other sites
ImperfectionisBeauty Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 It should be a right. Look at all the people who are cheating, abusing their spouses taking them for granted and treating them like crap and trashing them behind their backs. What do gays have to do with any of that? They have nothing to do with that but at the same time that doesn't explain why it should be a right compared to a privilege. I don't want to argue I am just saying. It's not a big deal to me, I know how I feel and I know how I'm voting Link to post Share on other sites
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