ImperfectionisBeauty Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 *sigh* here we go, trying to take play the victim. I didn't wish a gay child on you, I was entertaining the hypothetical possibility, but I'm sure you know that, you just wanted a reason to be defensive. This is pointless because you're still calling homosexuality a decision. In the same respect, that means that you decided (as in ACTUALLY had a choice between the two sexes) to be sexually attracted to men...I mean really -_- "You could possibility spare yourself from hell?" The closest thing we have to hell is this planet. There is no equivalent and it's thinking like this that causes others to suffer needlessly. I have nothing more to say to you. I made the choice to act on my attraction to men. Link to post Share on other sites
loveunlimited Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Would God go and rip someone a new one?? Doubtful yes, he would, he's known for a temper. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
ComingInHot Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Alrighty, so I read the topic thread and just a few posts. I don't want what I'm about to say to be inhibited by others comments. I first and foremost have made the decision to base my beliefs on the bible. Therefore, I MUST follow it to the best of my ability less I become what makes most people turn away from Christianity, a hypocrite. I would rather you dislike or hate me based on my commitment to what the Bible says rather than hate me for being a hypocrite or one that uses the bible or parts of it for their own gain & justification of their own sin... With that said, the Word states that being homosexual is wrong, a sin. Therefore I Must conclude that it is not to be accepted. Please understand that this has nothing to do w/the person but the action or concert in and of itself. Regarding the science behind the creation and design of the human body, the Word says we are made to enjoy sexual pleasure and have been designed to do so. I love that! Final side note: I am good friends w/people who are and were homosexual ( both men & women). I love them dearly and they love me and we are blessed to know each other and respect each other. I find peace in the fact that my belief also says that I am NOT judge & jury, so I am free to love them ( and they me) authentically & freely** 2 Link to post Share on other sites
ImperfectionisBeauty Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 yes, he would, he's known for a temper. The Godly way would absolutely not be ripping someone a new one. Link to post Share on other sites
ImperfectionisBeauty Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 The bible is full of documentation of God's wrath...so metaphorically speaking...many got ripped new ones, some for 40 years. But would God want YOU to rip someone a new one?? Doubtful. Didn't he say something about turning the other cheek or something..? Link to post Share on other sites
loveunlimited Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 I made the choice to act on my attraction to men. good....so....you chose men, so you chose to be heterosexual, right? is this not what you are saying? You weren't born heterosexual, you made a conscious decision to follow your attraction for men, because that's what you chose to be? This is what you're telling us, right? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
ImperfectionisBeauty Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 good....so....you chose men, so you chose to be heterosexual, right? is this not what you are saying? You weren't born heterosexual, you made a conscious decision to follow your attraction for men, because that's what you chose to be? This is what you're telling us, right? I am saying I made the choice to act on an attraction to men. You can take that however you want 1 Link to post Share on other sites
ImperfectionisBeauty Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 He also said we are responsible for our fellow man. We should stand up for those being mistreated and abused. Stand up for, not rip new ones. You can stand up to someone without being malicious to them. And since God has the ability to rip someone a new one why would he need you to. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
loveunlimited Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 But would God want YOU to rip someone a new one?? Doubtful. Didn't he say something about turning the other cheek or something..? the origin of that is not for the struck person to accept dominance and not fight back, the origin of that is defiance and refusal to kowtow to authority. any biblical scholar knows that. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
loveunlimited Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 I am saying I made the choice to act on an attraction to men. You can take that however you want Id like you to answer my question, and not be evasive - did you or did you not choose to be heterosexual? Link to post Share on other sites
ImperfectionisBeauty Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Id like you to answer my question, and not be evasive - did you or did you not choose to be heterosexual? I told you I chose to act on my attraction to men. Just like gay people make the choice to act on their attraction to the same sex. The sin is the act. Link to post Share on other sites
loveunlimited Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 I told you I chose to act on my attraction to men. Just like gay people make the choice to act on their attraction to the same sex. The sin is the act. you're avoiding the question which tells me everything i need to know. just to confirm, you were born heterosexual. thanks for clarifying through evasion. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
pie2 Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Having this argument about biblical principles with someone who's avatar says "In Lust We Trust" is so funny to me!! 2 Link to post Share on other sites
ImperfectionisBeauty Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 you're avoiding the question which tells me everything i need to know. just to confirm, you were born heterosexual. thanks for clarifying through evasion. I think I have said before that even if you are born gay that you still decide to act on it or not. Link to post Share on other sites
loveunlimited Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Having this argument about biblical principles with someone who's avatar says "In Lust We Trust" is so funny to me!! yes i am leaving the thread the hypocrisy is sticking in my throat. i cant believe this forum allows such prejudice to go unchallenged. frankly im disgusted such attitudes still exist. fortunately where i live we have openly gay politicians and civil unions are permitted as is gay adoption, and discrimination based on sexual persuasion is against the law everywhere. i'm out. 5 Link to post Share on other sites
ImperfectionisBeauty Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 yes i am leaving the thread the hypocrisy is sticking in my throat. i cant believe this forum allows such prejudice to go unchallenged. frankly im disgusted such attitudes still exist. fortunately where i live we have openly gay politicians and civil unions are permitted as is gay adoption, and discrimination based on sexual persuasion is against the law everywhere. i'm out. I'm assuming you don't live in America? Link to post Share on other sites
loveunlimited Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 most certainly not and i hate to say it but i had the opportunity to visit next year and now you personally have put me completely off the idea. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Woggle Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 I'm assuming you don't live in America? A few decades ago many people would have voted to make you a 2nd class citizen and some places here would still vote for it so why would you want to make another group 2nd class citizens? Treat others the way you would want to be treated. 5 Link to post Share on other sites
ImperfectionisBeauty Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 A few decades ago many people would have voted to make you a 2nd class citizen and some places here would still vote for it so why would you want to make another group 2nd class citizens? Treat others the way you would want to be treated. I don't think upholding marriage tradition makes someone a second class citizen Link to post Share on other sites
Ross MwcFan Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 First of all don't wish a gay child on me, I would love my kid no matter what but I wouldn't be happy about their decision to go in that direction. As far as sin like I said before if you repent you could possibly spare yourself from hell. So you'd rather your child have to live the whole of their life being celibate and never experiencing any kind of romance, or getting married to and having sex with someone of the opposite gender which would repulse them? Link to post Share on other sites
Ross MwcFan Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 The Godly way would absolutely not be ripping someone a new one. But doesn't it say in the bible that he slaughtered many adults and children? Link to post Share on other sites
Ross MwcFan Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 good....so....you chose men, so you chose to be heterosexual, right? is this not what you are saying? You weren't born heterosexual, you made a conscious decision to follow your attraction for men, because that's what you chose to be? This is what you're telling us, right? I think that she's saying that she was born hetro, and she's choosen to act on her attraction to the opposite gender. Link to post Share on other sites
ImperfectionisBeauty Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 So you'd rather your child have to live the whole of their life being celibate and never experiencing any kind of romance, or getting married to and having sex with someone of the opposite gender which would repulse them? I'm saying don't wish a gay kid on me. Link to post Share on other sites
Ross MwcFan Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 (edited) I'm saying don't wish a gay kid on me. What's wrong with you? No one is wishing a gay kid on you. You make having a gay kid sound like a curse or something. Therefore I hope to god that you don't have any gay kids, as it wouldn't be fair on them at all. Can you imagine the damage it would do to the child if their mother saw them as bad and as something to be ashamed of just because of their sexual orientation? Edited September 23, 2012 by Ross MwcFan 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Woggle Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 I would rather Ellen be my daughter than Kim Kardashian or Paris Hilton. 6 Link to post Share on other sites
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