Favorite Teachers/Pastors

[M30USA]

Actually I have read this before.

 

I don't have anything against Joel Osteen. I think he can say whatever he wants and do whatever he wants. He is entitled to speak what he believes.

 

However, what bothers me about him is that he passes off his views as mainstream Biblical Christianity, when in fact his views are entirely new and have never once shown up in over 1900+ years of the Church. People hear his sermons (which are in essence New Age occultism) and mistakenly believe he is teaching the Bible.

[pie2]

Is this some of your recent work, M30?

 

 

? it wasn't denied!

 

 

My favorite teacher is CS Lewis. And does Tolkein count? Because the image of Smeagol=sin's power has been burned into my brain

 

 

To those who have read Tozer or Stanley, can you recommend any books in particular?

[M30USA]

? it wasn't denied!

 

 

My favorite teacher is CS Lewis. And does Tolkein count? Because the image of Smeagol=sin's power has been burned into my brain

 

 

To those who have read Tozer or Stanley, can you recommend any books in particular?

 

CS Lewis and JRR Tolkien were good friends. They were both in a writer's circle, humorously called "The Inklings".

[mercy]

For those who are listeners of Joel Osteen, here is an informative and well-researched video on the origin of his teachings. Some of this information will shock you. It basically proves that his teachings are the same as the New Age cult and former Luciferian movement. If this sounds extreme, it's only because most people don't understand what New Age and Luciferianism is.

 

 

Keith Thompson has a right to his opinion. May God bring him much happiness. Differences of people have never frightened me.

 

Look at all the different people the posters have listed. I for one have found new teachers to learn from, for that I'm grateful.

 

I've been lonely without h but I've kept myself busy with reading, learning, being blessed. Thanks everyone.!

[pie2]

CS Lewis and JRR Tolkien were good friends. They were both in a writer's circle, humorously called "The Inklings".

 

How cute! They're amazing. Their conversations must have been SOO cool and filled with imaginative, bright ideas. Too bad there aren't any recorded interviews of the pair.

[M30USA]

Keith Thompson has a right to his opinion. May God bring him much happiness. Differences of people have never frightened me.

 

Look at all the different people the posters have listed. I for one have found new teachers to learn from, for that I'm grateful.

 

I've been lonely without h but I've kept myself busy with reading, learning, being blessed. Thanks everyone.!

 

My concern is not with people's opinions, but with what the Bible says. People can believe whatever they want. Not all beliefs are consistent with the Bible--even if they're out of the mouth of pastors.

[M30USA]

Yeah...I don't buy it...but if that is what you believe..so be it.

 

Forget about what I believe. What does the Bible say? That's all that matters. That's where the debate stands. It's not about what I believe or what you believe.

[mercy]

My concern is not with people's opinions, but with what the Bible says. People can believe whatever they want. Not all beliefs are consistent with the Bible--even if they're out of the mouth of pastors.

 

Please, please don't start on my list next.

[mercy]

We'll just keep an eye out for vandalism of their wiki pages too.

 

You're so funny! What are you talking about? What did I miss?

[pie2]

What about Max Lucado? Does he have a terrible reputation? My church often puts a story by him in the bulletin, and I always love them. I hope I'm not been pulled to the dark side!

[mercy]

What about Max Lucado? Does he have a terrible reputation? My church often puts a story by him in the bulletin, and I always love them. I hope I'm not been pulled to the dark side!

 

I forgot about him! I have every one of his books.

 

He is a wonderfully gifted man!

[M30USA]

What about Max Lucado? Does he have a terrible reputation? My church often puts a story by him in the bulletin, and I always love them. I hope I'm not been pulled to the dark side!

 

I don't know enough about him.

 

But the Word of God (which many of you claim you believe) specifically instructs us to not believe every spirit (or doctrine), but to "test" them to see if they stand up to Scripture by examination.

[mercy]

mercy, I took a screengrab of a recent (yesterday) edit to Joel Olsteen's wiki page.

 

I obviously can't say it was M30, but the timing of it was quite funny.

 

The change says he's a heretic? Oh please.

 

You've got to be very careful insulting men of God. Now that would scare me.

 

Hey joe, Joel just may convert you!

[pie2]

I must admit, Joe can be very quick! (Well, not quick about accepting the fact that God loves him...but about many other things)

 

I forgot about him! I have every one of his books.

 

He is a wonderfully gifted man!

 

Oh, good! He has so much wisdom, and shares it in a way that's not too complex for me to understand lol

[mercy]

I must admit, Joe can be very quick! (Well, not quick about accepting the fact that God loves him...but about many other things)

 

 

 

Oh, good! He has so much wisdom, and shares it in a way that's not too complex for me to understand lol

 

Yes, he is packed with wisdom! On my birthday if he has a new someone has bought it for me.

 

joe doesn't have to accept that God loves him. God does, that's what's important.

 

Anyway, I think I'm going to win him over! :love:

[pie2]

I don't know enough about him.

 

But the Word of God (which many of you claim you believe) specifically instructs us to not believe every spirit (or doctrine), but to "test" them to see if they stand up to Scripture by examination.

 

You are absolutely right M30. But I respect your (and others' here) opinions too, and that's all part of seeking to test every spirit.

 

But the Word of God (which many of you claim you believe

 

Here, you sound so pessimistic about us lot!

[M30USA]

The scriptures that he speaks of when I watch him say exactly what the one says in the book I am holding. The name of that book is the Holy Bible. That is all I need to know. My prayers aren't to Joel Olsteen. I don't repent to Joel Olsteen. I don't ask forgiveness from Joel Olsteen. I enjoy his show, his jokes and his inspiration.

 

15 Do not love the world or anything in the world. If anyone loves the world, love for the Father[d] is not in them. 16 For everything in the world—the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life—comes not from the Father but from the world. 17 The world and its desires pass away, but whoever does the will of God lives forever. (1 John 2)

 

6 But godliness with contentment is great gain. 7 For we brought nothing into the world, and we can take nothing out of it. 8 But if we have food and clothing, we will be content with that. 9 Those who want to get rich fall into temptation and a trap and into many foolish and harmful desires that plunge people into ruin and destruction. 10 For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs. (1 Timothy

 

Lastly...

 

I've never heard a Joel Osteen sermon where the following things are on the "want list": humility, purity of heart, repentance, brokenness...etc...or anything that the Bible tells us to strive for.

[M30USA]

The OP asked who our [each,individual/personal] teachers/pastors are...I answered her question with [my/individual/personal] choices. I noticed that you didn't list Olsteen...don't you think that is perfectly fine that you didn't. Don't you feel that is perfectly fine that you listed those who meant something to you?

 

Why is not okay for me to list who I enjoy and be perfectly okay with my list without having my choices dismissed because you have an opinion about Olsteen? Why would you assume I don't research, study and pray on what I have read or heard? Why would you assume I don't know when the Lord is speaking to me (or anyone else)that has a personal relationship with God?

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Believe me, I'm not arguing. If there is one thing I am 100% sure of in this life, it's that the human heart is "deceitful above all things and beyond cure" (Jeremiah 17:9) . This includes me, you, Christians, non-Christians, pastors, and everyone. For this reason, I view Scripture alone as valid when it comes to spiritual truth. And any teacher/pastor, I rigorously compare to Scripture so that they don't lead us astray. Satan is a wolf in sheep's clothing and the Bible says he goes to and fro around the earth looking for those he can devour.

[mercy]

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Believe me, I'm not arguing. If there is one thing I am 100% sure of in this life, it's that the human heart is "deceitful above all things and beyond cure" (Jeremiah 17:9) . This includes me, you, Christians, non-Christians, pastors, and everyone. For this reason, I view Scripture alone as valid when it comes to spiritual truth. And any teacher/pastor, I rigorously compare to Scripture so that they don't lead us astray. Satan is a wolf in sheep's clothing and the Bible says he goes to and fro around the earth looking for those he can devour.

 

Please don't pick peoples lists apart. Just accept peoples differences and move on.

 

Add to your list. Talk about who you respect.

[taiko]

I guarantee if you practice google fu on any name on this thread, except Mr. T:p you will find a website telling you what is wrong with X and how he or she is not teaching the truth. Some might add they are not really Christian. Fundamentalist of the largest Christian denomination, who will even argue that they are not a denomination but above that, will then chime in to say how almost every man, and woman on this list will only give you the partial truth as God has set it up that only their leaders can teach without error. In any disagreement they are right and the other is wrong because of what Jesus said to Peter,

[pie2]

The Joel Osteen debate could probably take up a sizeable thread on it's own

 

I was surprised to see the prevelance of Chuck Smith followers on this thread. Where I live, Calvary Chapel is a very big movement. Chuck Smith came to my church awhile back, and there was such a respectful admiration for him amongst the crowd, which I believe he deserves. But I noticed how easy it can be to begin to have too much reverence for the man, and not the message. The pastor, so often, seems to display all these wonderful traits of the spirit that we are all working towards. How can we not love and admire that?! But sometimes, that love and admiration becomes more about the person, and forgets that the power they possess is really God's power working through them. By some, pastors do get put on a pedestal, and I'm sure pastors must battle with feelings of self-righteousness or the like.

 

It must be extremely hard to be a pastor, or other prominent church leader.

[M30USA]

I guarantee if you practice google fu on any name on this thread, except Mr. T:p you will find a website telling you what is wrong with X and how he or she is not teaching the truth. Some might add they are not really Christian. Fundamentalist of the largest Christian denomination, who will even argue that they are not a denomination but above that, will then chime in to say how almost every man, and woman on this list will only give you the partial truth as God has set it up that only their leaders can teach without error. In any disagreement they are right and the other is wrong because of what Jesus said to Peter,

 

Unfortunately that is true.

 

But what people say doesn't matter. As the Bible says, the grass whithers and the flowers fade, but the Word of God stands forever.

[pureinheart]

A good sermon, much needed today--

 

Adrian Rogers - How to Make Your Bible Come Alive.flv - YouTube

 

:(:(, I didn't know Adrian Rogers had passed,:(:(

 

He is with the Lord with many crowns:)

[pureinheart]

I think I may have seen E.V. Hill but I am not sure. Could be someone else I am thinking off. I will review my Journal as I do take notes.

 

'It's Supernatural' is fab! It is currently my most favourite programme. It is wonderful.

 

I like Bill Winston a lot too. The man talks the relational sense of the Gospels. He radiates.

 

My favourite lady remains to be Joyce Meyer. I love her deeply. Hope to meet her one day, on this plain. Her Hand Of Hope cause is very inspiring.

 

Who We Are | Hand of Hope | Joyce Meyer Ministries

 

I am very very near to the point where I will be able to totally leave behind secular working life to work in such a ministry.

 

Take care,

Eve x

 

This is awesome! And just want to say you've been a blessing to all of us and have ministered to me over the years here...thank you:)

 

It is so wonderful because now I can refer back to all of the wonderful teachers listed here and listen at all of them.

 

 

 

James, I really like the teacher you listed. He gives much needed balance:)

 

Another I forgot to mention is Creflo and Taffy Dollar.

 

The all time favorite is Steve Harvey, he is not ordained (at least don't think he is)...wow he ministers to me bigtime.

 

EVE!!!!! It's on right now (It's Supernatural)

[pureinheart]

For those who are listeners of Joel Osteen, here is an informative and well-researched video on the origin of his teachings. Some of this information will shock you. It basically proves that his teachings are the same as the New Age cult and former Luciferian movement. If this sounds extreme, it's only because most people don't understand what New Age and Luciferianism is.

 

 

It's interesting, in using spell check on certain ministers through google, found at least one site on all stating that they are false teachers, prophets, etc.

 

In looking up C. McClendon was curious and clicked on a site that called him false everything. It even threw in T.D. Jakes and another that I greatly respect.

 

M30, the Spirit literally screams inside of me when a particular pastor/teacher/prophet is out of line and it's easy to pick up even small errors, then at that point the decision has to be made whether to eat the chicken and spit out the bones, or to disqualify completely because some errors are completely demonic. They will surface eventually (your sin will find you out) so deception cannot exist when there is sincere desire for truth.

 

LOL, with that I've yet to see anything wrong with his teaching, or style of teaching. Yes he leans heavily towards "happy happy joy joy" and encouragement which is MUCH needed in the body of Christ. He has an extraordinary gift of exhortation and practical encouragement.