Hawaii50 Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 OP.. If we don't fight, how can we have make-up sex?! 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Author Woggle Posted October 2, 2012 Author Share Posted October 2, 2012 I don't complain when women only want to be heard on an equal footing. I simply respond to the cruelty I have been shown for much of my life. Believe it or not I used to actually believe all the crap my mother and thought that it was my job as a man to bear the brunt because now it is time for women to be strong but after my divorce it finally clicked that all this did was make me a punching bag. Before that you would have seen me always siding with women and damn near apologizing for being born with a penis but after that I finally grew some self respect. All my life I have always treated the women in my life well but except for my wife, some friends and women on here I have gotten cruelty and abuse in return. Believe it or not there are some incidents I haven't discussed here like the one teacher who purposely tried to sabotage me and the other boys who just got divorced and hated men. Also there is the babysitter who would make me pedal on an exercise as hard as I possible could or I would beaten but if I made any noise I would get beat as well so I was pretty much screwed either way. I have a few more that I won't get into because I would be here all day. I can't find the threads but I wish I can show you the hateful responses I got from women on other boards who saw nothing wrong with what any of those women did. This board is the one where I have gotten genuine support from women. This being said I know hatred is not the answer. Becoming just as the bad as the people who abused me is not good either. Why would anybody want to emulate people they are supposedly fighting against? The trick is that after that divorce was the first time in my life I had any self respect or strength and what I dread more than anything is becoming that self hating scared little boy I used to be. Link to post Share on other sites
UpwardForward Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 what I dread more than anything is becoming that self hating scared little boy I used to be. You won't be. Just keep moving Forward with your new life and doting wife. Link to post Share on other sites
whichwayisup Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 I don't post stuff like that. I will be the first to say I have trust issues but I am not a chauvinist. All these feelings are getting brought back up because of my mom and my ex have to poke their heads into my life again with the lawsuit and the will. The other day I tried one last time to rebuild the relationship with my mother because after all she has done to me I still want her to find some peace before she dies. I want to spend at least a few years experiencing some happiness instead of burning hatred but she swears she will be a proud misandrist until the day she dies. I give up anymore. If she wants to die miserable then let her. I made this thread because I guess I need to become the change I want to see. If I want men and women to stop hating each other I guess begins with me because I don't want to be an old man one day saying I am a proud misogynist for life. You can only control and change yourself. Wouldn't it be nice if men and women stopped hating each other. Wouldn't it be nice if there was no racism, no crimes, etc..etc.. It ain't gonna happen. So, the best way I suggest is, continue do to your best to steer away from threads that set you off. Stay away from toxic people who are gender bashing and/or hating the opposite sex. Focus on the positives in your life and close the door to the world when you come home. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
seren Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 I don't often read on this site, but after reading this thread I can honestly say I am truly amazed that some of the comments made are being made. I thought the gender bias stuff had long gone, it is certainly not anything I see or experience in my life or anywhere else. I have had some truly horrific experiences at the hands of some men, some men being the significant word, I have had some pretty crap treatment by some women, again some being the significant word. The bad actions were done by bad people, their gender had nothing to do with it, except for some of the actions. I have, amongst many things, been employed in non traditional female roles, I can take care of most DIY tasks, it doesn't make me any less female. In our house, I do the electrics, fix the car and all decision making, H does the heavy stuff, some cleaning and the outside work, this because we share what needs to be done and we each do what we have discussed we will do and accepted by the other. I truly am shocked at some of the viewpoints and think I must have missed something and judging by some of the comments I am dammed glad that I have. We are people first and foremost, of course there will be differences, we are wired differently. t doesn't mean one is more inferior or by association, more superior to the other. Both equally have the potential for living a hard life irrespective of gender. Viva la difference!! 3 Link to post Share on other sites
2sunny Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 I have learned that the people who treat or treated me poorly had to be ignored by ME! That is the action I COULD take.i have control over THAT! When a person gives me evidence that I don't trust them - I eliminate them from any communication... Link to post Share on other sites
Author Woggle Posted October 2, 2012 Author Share Posted October 2, 2012 I have learned that the people who treat or treated me poorly had to be ignored by ME! That is the action I COULD take.i have control over THAT! When a person gives me evidence that I don't trust them - I eliminate them from any communication... This is true but I take it so personally sometimes. Another thing is that I used to genuinely believe that MRA's only wanted men to get a fair shake in family and divorce court and for boy's educational issues to be addressed more which are perfectly good goals. That is why I would get so angry when women would attack them because it felt like an attack on all men. I wondered why are they so opposed to boys doing better in school and men being treated fairly in divorce court. It was only when I read some MRA boards that I realized how disturbed many are. Many think Gabby Giffords deserved it and that is scratching the surface. Link to post Share on other sites
johan Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 I can't stop hating. Sorry. Link to post Share on other sites
Mme. Chaucer Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 I can't stop hating. Sorry. Robots can't hate. They have no feelings. Link to post Share on other sites
Pyro Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 Robots can't hate. They have no feelings. Except Johnny 5. He was proven to be alive. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Mme. Chaucer Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 except johnny 5. He was proven to be alive. i hate him. Link to post Share on other sites
Pyro Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 i hate him. He hates you. Link to post Share on other sites
serial muse Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 (edited) Leftist/Marxist alert! . You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means. If women chose to stay home with the kids, focusing on domestic work, then I simply want to facilitate this opportunity, not hinder some woman's career if she is actually good at something. With over 60% of women in the workforce there against their will just to survive, thanks to feminists and big monopolies getting together, the only people trying to force them into incompatible gender roles are people like you. My role in the workforce is not incompatible with my gender because it's compatible with me as a human being, so circular argument is circular. Just like there are things men can't do, because they are men. Instead of saying women universally can't do something, the idea is more that men generally do it better consistently more often. Whatever, boring sexist argument is boring. An observation made again and again throughout history, by all the greatest philosophers and sages of mankind and proven daily to any observant man today. Buy the saddle after . Did you forget a word? Anyway, what's amusing about this is how illogical this argument is. Irony, thy name is Goebbels. Perhaps you even know it but don't care? I notice that you spout a lot of "facts" that aren't really facts, but you do seem to feel that repeating things over and over again will somehow make them true and so... WAIT. Are you a.....................Marxist/Leftist? Good God. Mind blown. How many women know how to? Of the tiny, miniscule, statistically irrelevant percentage of women who can fix the pipes under the sink, how many will do it instead of just telling their husband to? Normal people like gender roles, because they are mutually beneficial. You get the sandwich, I'll get the pipes. What about this equation is so offensive to women like you? Let me guess, you want the man to do both right or pay a maid while you do your nails, right too! ZOMG. There you go again! What's so super-fun is when you repeat things over and over again, desperately trying to make them true!! Like for example saying that women who deny your characterization of them are lying about not being the stereotype you need them to be. It's scary , but this actually works until it gets to the point where disagreeing gets you called some made up word (Marxist). KWIM?? I bet you do. The most "worst off" woman on this whole forum, Verzrhn, has a mate and has dated extensively. There are literally tens of guys on this forum who are still virgins, or only have sex if they pay for it. As Verhrzn herself has explained umpteen times, feeling bad off in the dating world isn't just a matter of whether one has the sheer opportunity to ever knock boots, no matter with whom. You know this, and again, I suspect that you are purposefully ignoring the point of her argument. She wants a guy to like her for herself, and feels that that hasn't happened. Whether it has or not is another question - but then, one could argue with every person on here who complains that nobody likes them. For example, the argument that they've never had the opportunity to have a relationship/have sex is also untrue of certain male posters who discount Verhrzn's feelings and who complain that they can't get any action - except that they can, it's just not the action that they particularly want. So I fail to see how this is any different. However skewed her perspective may be, Verhrzn is more honest about her actual opportunities. Anything else? Edited October 4, 2012 by serial muse Verhrzn is hard to spell. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
TaraMaiden Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 I can't believe this schweinhund isn't on more Ignore Lists... I mean, look at how the real on ended up... . Link to post Share on other sites
EasyHeart Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 Can I still hate some women? Link to post Share on other sites
TaraMaiden Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 With justifiable cause sometimes it's hard not to. I resent the male gender's war on women, as I outlined in detail, in my post. However, 'hate' is a powerful word - and, like the word 'Love' is bandied about loosely, without much thought to it's forceful intent. I hate Brussels sprouts. Does that same word, equate with 'I hate women'...? Link to post Share on other sites
Author Woggle Posted October 4, 2012 Author Share Posted October 4, 2012 The entire male gender does not have a war on women though. Some of the anti-feminist bitterness comes when some though not all feminists act like we do. I am not out to hurt any woman. I have trust issues but I have never victimized a woman. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
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