Mme. Chaucer Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 ^^^ Sure, we should help our fellow humans in need and the person was a jerk for not doing so. I don't think it has anything to do with Christianity, though, and hanging this whole thread on the poor Christians makes me less sympathetic to the OP. Also, the fact that we have zero idea what really happened. First the wallet was at a friend's - then the wallet was in the boyfriend's car - etc. This is what we called an "unreliable narrator" back in creative writing school. 5 Link to post Share on other sites
madjac74 Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 We have all been in these situations but you aren't going to gain a bit of sympathy when you blame someone based on their beliefs, skin color, sex, etc...I guarantee there are plenty of atheists who would let you walk home in your high heels and not give a damn. But most importantly the fact that you criticize her for not acting like a Christian when you yourself don't believe is the most laughable thing. You mock her faith but you expect to receive her Christian-like blessings. Although letting you use the phone should have been no big deal. I doubt we know the whole story though since you have already proven how condescending you can be. I can't imagine how bad it was when you were in distress 5 Link to post Share on other sites
TaraMaiden Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 I think I might be a little upset with my BF for not following me home to make sure I was safe with the rapes happening though it really wasn't his responsibility but it just seems like something one would do for the woman he cared about. I could be wrong of course. I thought she'd dumped him...? I'm obviously not following this drama too well..... Link to post Share on other sites
Els Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 I agree that she was not displaying Christian-like values at all. I see no point in touting your part in a religion that exhorts you to show kindness to a person in need, while simultaneously not bothering to do the actual deed. On the other hand, I do find it worrisome that you and your bf let yourself be in such a situation. A good, or even decent bf would have at the very least walked you to your car and watched you get in first, if it was 2am and there had been an abduction scare recently. It is very concerning that your bf hadn't, and that you are letting him get away with that. This random lady is just an unempathic twat, but she has little part in your daily life, whereas your bf is a big part of your life, by choice. IMO, you should be more concerned about his failings in this case, than hers. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
madjac74 Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 (edited) I agree that she was not displaying Christian-like values at all. I see no point in touting your part in a religion that exhorts you to show kindness to a person in need, while simultaneously not bothering to do the actual deed. On the other hand, I do find it worrisome that you and your bf let yourself be in such a situation. A good, or even decent bf would have at the very least walked you to your car and watched you get in first, if it was 2am and there had been an abduction scare recently. It is very concerning that your bf hadn't, and that you are letting him get away with that. This random lady is just an unempathic twat, but she has little part in your daily life, whereas your bf is a big part of your life, by choice. IMO, you should be more concerned about his failings in this case, than hers. He is probably an atheist so it is ok for him to be a douche bag. No one to answer to. *please note these are not my personal feelings. I was just speaking in the misguided prose of the OP Edited October 7, 2012 by madjac74 4 Link to post Share on other sites
Author Leigh 87 Posted October 8, 2012 Author Share Posted October 8, 2012 ELSWTH - Andrew and I left at the same time. He thought I had my wallet. He drives a truck and I drive my car, so we had to drive to my flat seperately. He had no idea I would be potentially stranded. He would be horrified at the thought of me walking home at night. He would have arrived at my place, had me not show up, and started to majorly freak out, and immediately go out looking for me; which he would have found me, walking home from the gas station. Come to think of it, Andrew would have found me. I would have been walking along the only road from my house to the gas station. I could have spared the truck driver 5 bucks, and just walked. I would not have walked for more than half hour before Andrew found me. I guess at the time, I was worried and wanted to be sensible and avoid walking in the dark. especially in light of the recent abduction in Australia, where a women simply walked to house from a pub along a BUSY and lit road, and got abducted, raped, then killed. A CCTV camera caugth it, as it was on a MAIN ROAD with shops..... Harmfulsweetz - I almost always have my wallet and phone on me. 99% of the time. However, most people make mistakes. I went to buy something and left my wallet in the plastic bag (Instead of putting it back into my purse). My partner happened to take the plastic bag with the brought items in it with HIM, without knowing my wallet was in it. He proceeded to drive his truck, with the plastic bag that had my wallet. Don't even start on me about the fact it was my responsibility to have money on me and etc.. I KNOW. Like DUH. But the fact is, like many people, for once I was not prepared. It was MY fault. but any NICE or kind person, would have helped me out. The CHristian lady was not nice or particularly kind, in my opinion. ,........ if a person is stranded with no money or phone and is scared to walk home in the dark for hours, any NICE, kind, or generous person, would surely help; be it give them a lift, lend them money, or even just offer to wait with them until help arrives. I WOULD. My parents would. My boyfriend would. What would you do? Just say to them " too bad, it is your fault your in this mess" That is EXACTLY what the lady at the gas station said to me. And I am a very sweet girl who is extremely polite to her whenever I have gone in... Always smile, ask how she is, and ask about her day. She has chatted to me before, and knows I am nice and polite. My point is that on some level, she thinks she is above me, on the basis she is a Christian and does not sin, and I am not Christian, and therefore commit more sin than her. I find it ironic how I am very kind and generous, where as some people who consider themselves to be Christian, think they are above me even though they are nasty people. The nature of Chritianity is to help others SUPPOSEDLY! telling me to risk my life walking home in the dark and get raped potentially, is not really needed for me to learn my lesson. I can learn without enduring any hardship or pain. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Leigh 87 Posted October 8, 2012 Author Share Posted October 8, 2012 He is probably an atheist so it is ok for him to be a douche bag. No one to answer to. *please note these are not my personal feelings. I was just speaking in the misguided prose of the OP But Christinaity is all about "helping others". How is helping me, sending me on my way to walk home and risk getting raped? IS that really a necessary and good lesson for me to HAVE to learn? What gets me is that Christianity is SUPPOSED to extoll the virtue of " helping your neighbour". Really? Well not offering ANY assistance whatsoever to a girl who merely forgot her wallet and had no way of contacting anyone is NOT Christian. And not only is it not Christian, but it is NOT NICE in general; it would have mean an @sshole thing to do for either a Christian OR Athiest. I just find it very ironic that you Christians believe your following the will of God, when you tell a young adult women to walk home int he dark and risk getting raped? Link to post Share on other sites
Author Leigh 87 Posted October 8, 2012 Author Share Posted October 8, 2012 I bet Christians have as good a chance of being annoying as members of any other religion. Some atheists are as annoying as hell also. The predicament you got yourself into, Leigh, is pretty troubling - hard to believe, in fact - and I would not be surprised if you were throwing off some weird vibes in that gas station that put the employee on guard. I forgot my wallet, and my phone was dead. 99% of the time I am responsible. It is not troubling at all - plenty of people forget things once in a while. And what weird vibes? You don't know me! I am a very softly spoken, sweet girl in real life. I have talked to that cash attendant before at the Gas station. I always said " hi, how has your day been" with a big smile. Which she alwas appreciated and she always went on to tell me about her day, and even about her life in general. I have not done a single thing to suggest I am anything but a nice, polite young lady. If any of you met me in real life without knowing who i was on here, almost all people without mental problems would think of me as a friendly, nice person. Not threatening in the slightest. I act lady like, do not swear to strangers, and dress well. My parentrs brought me up very well, and I present myself as a polite and non threatening young women. I do anything BUT give out weird vibes.... Seriously? You ASSUMING that says more about you than it does me! I simply said " oh no, can you please help me, I am in a bit of a pickle here" to which she gave a big shrug and said " geez I dunno, your very sill for leaving your wallet behind, have fun walking home!" Link to post Share on other sites
ImperfectionisBeauty Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 There is this lady that works at a gas station here in Australia, who told me one day that " she is a Christian" and sounded very proud about it. I said " cool, that's nice then:)" . It came up when we talked about robberies at the stations, which happend a lot in that industry. Last night I left my wallet at a friends, and ran out of fuel at the gas station. AT the gas station, as I pulled up. My phone also went flat. I had no money or way of contacting my boyfriend, and it was 2 in the morning. I went and told the " christian" sales attendant about my predicament, and she was not even empathetic! She just shrugged her shoulders, and smiled as she said " oh well then! Its going to be a long walk home! ( which she knew was a 2 hour walk) She would not even let me use her mobile to call me boyfriend. She was going to let me walk home, in my short tee shirt and heals, at 2 am down dangerous roads. This is a week after a well known women got abducted, raped and killed nearby and every one was aware and alert and dismayed about not being able to walk down the streed at night without getting raped, in Australia where it seamed safe. I am sick of "christians" thinking they are above non believes, and yet acting like total jerks! And do not even try to concince me she was not a jerk. Based on my values and how I was raised, she is not that great of a person. I prefer people who are very generous. Ok that is pretty terrible, I would have at least let you use the phone. I would feel like total crap if you were hurt and I knew that it was my fault that you had been hurt because I just said "hey have fun walking home" I don't think it is even about being Christian or not it is just about having some slight decency as a person... which she obviously had none. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Leigh 87 Posted October 8, 2012 Author Share Posted October 8, 2012 :rolleyes:LOL. You really purport to know that I am not a nice person:lmao::lmao: I define niceness as: - willing to lend a hand -going out of your way to gladly try to help others -putting others before yourself - being generous -not gossiping in a nasty or unflattering way about people. -knowing when to say NO (like that lady at the gas station) Yet still being friendly about it - are nomally interested in other people and their lives (and ask about how the other person is doing, rather than cr@p on and on abou tthemselves to everyone the know) She was within her right sot say no, she obviously did not want to lose her job. But she sure was not empathetic about it. A NICE person, in my opinion would have handled it more like this: " look, sorry, I cannot lend you money or let you use my phone because I do not want to lose my job and for security purposes, but I really hope you get home safely, I am sure someone will help you out! Instead, she just laughed at me and threw her hands up in the air, and was like " well.. too bad!" To me, she is a bit of a B8Tch. She is not patticularly nice, based on how she acted. My beliefs are based on my how parents raised me, which was to lead by example of kindess and generosity. for some strange reason you think I am the nasty person, and that she is the " nice" once. Good for you. Stop posting in my threads please, if you are convinced I am such a nasty person. I have no time for people like you, who come on here, and tell me " actually, your the nasty person and she did nothing wrong" Really? good for you! Why did you come and tell me that? I think I am a lovely person and you, a stranger, will not convince me otherwise. I am always pleasant to people. I am always positive. I don't say nasty things about people. I don't gossip unless it is positive. And I offer to drive people or pick them up at all hours. At work, I am always the first person to offer people lifts home, rather than see them stranded! Why don't you safe personal attacks to people you actually know. . Link to post Share on other sites
Author Leigh 87 Posted October 8, 2012 Author Share Posted October 8, 2012 :lmao:you know very little about what Christianity is all about and that is evident in your posts about "what Christianity is about". You make an assumption that you are incapable of lying to someone or they have a crystal ball/lie detector to know when someone is lying...we don't. It is funny you thought this female should put herself in danger for you. Why? Why shouldn't she protect herself from potential danger even if you did not? You argument holds as much water as a bucket with a hole in the bottom. And I am not auguing anything actually... The only thing I stated was that she is not a particularly nice person. All the lovely, kind, and generous people I have met in my life, would have handled that gas station situation differently. The way the lady handled it makes me think that she is not the lovely, generous sort of person that I prefer to associate with. That is my opinion. I am also of the opinion that I am very nice. It won't change. Do you actually expect me to listen to you, a stranger, and think : wow, a total stranger does not think I am nice. I totally believe her:lmao::lmao::lmao: I am not aurguing. I do not have an argument for you to go on. ALL I have said is: throughout life, I have heard numerous phrases similar to these: "I'm a good Christian, I would not do a thing like that!" " he was a good person with strong Christian values, and did the right thing in his community" ....So it is ironic to me, based on what I have heard throughout life, to hear Christians acting the way this lady did. M father raised me to bloody help someone out, or at LEAST be concerned about a person in need! Yes, walking home in the dark is not exactl a hardship, but a person with empathy would at least voice their concern, and wish you a good trip home! The fact she laughed at my predicament and acted totally indifferent showed me she was not a person who fits my criteria of "kind" or " generous" Link to post Share on other sites
Author Leigh 87 Posted October 8, 2012 Author Share Posted October 8, 2012 lol!! I can't believe she's getting moderately bashed for being in a tough spot. Even the most responsible of people end up in precarious situations which the require the hand of a stranger. I can't understand not helping someone, especially that late at night and as easily as letting someone use the phone. I would have been very angry. It reminds me of one time I was denied medical attention from the NY State National Guard here in Afghanistan (I'm from Buffalo NY), I saw RED. I was irate. Anyways, yeah, anyone; A smoking hot fox, an elderly person, a group of youngsters, a friggin' tri-athlete. I cannot understand not helping someone in need. And I don't see it as something she could have been more responsible about, except thinking later in hindsight- it being 20/20 and all. We all find ourselves in circumstances where 10 different things happened and left us sitting thinking "WTF." Some famous person once said, paraphrased as "You can tell the measure of a man by how he treats the people than can do nothing for him" I'm not being altruistic, but a phone call is nothing. $2 from your own pocket, most people's pocket, is nothing. Too bad you didn't everyone's 2 cents that night, could've gotten a tank of gas oh snap. Finally, a person who has some common decency. People in the customer service industry should only BE in that industry if the know how to show empathy. Your always taught to put the customer first, and to learn how to appease people, in order to get he best outcome for your company. Thanks to her, it has undermined the company she works for! If the company chose to not hire people who can handle people well, they are incompetent in that way. If I approach a service station of that name, I will now bi pass it in favour of another one. And if the staff is a c*nt in that store, then bye bye to that business too! I always find another place that is willing to give me excellent service. Link to post Share on other sites
KathyM Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 (edited) She should have offered to call a friend of yours to pick you up from the gas station. That would have been the safe thing to do for both of you. You really can't expect her to take money from the cash register, since that is not hers to give, or to get her purse out and give you money, especially at 2:00 a.m., since that would have opened herself up for a robbery. She should have offered to call someone for you. With that said, it's possible she didn't believe you when you said you forgot your wallet, and that is why she didn't offer to help you. There are so many scam artists that take advantage of helpful people, that there's a good chance she didn't believe you. Women asking for money at the gas station, claiming to have run out of gas and have no money on them is a very common scam that has been around for several years now, and people are getting wise to it, so there's a good chance she thought you were not really in need. Unfortunately, the scam artists ruin it for people who are actually in need of help. You shouldn't judge an entire faith based on one person's actions, and that one person may have not believed you to be in trouble, since that is a very common scam that has been around for several years now. I know many Christians personally who go out of their way to help others. One buys coats for the homeless out of his meager paycheck. One donates his time counseling men in prison. Several Christians I know make food in their own kitchens and bring it to the homeless to feed them once a week. We have a ministry in our church where church members volunteer their time to fix up the homes of the poor who can't afford to fix their home themselves. I could give you so many examples of Christians helping those in need, you'd never hear the end of it, but suffice it to say, there are many Christians who do live by the principles that Christ promoted--feeding and clothing the poor, and helping them in many ways. To lump all Christians into some disparaging remark based on one experience with one person is pretty unfair. The woman at the gas station should have made the phone call for you, but there's a good chance she didn't believe you because this is a very common scam that has been going around for many years now. Edited October 8, 2012 by KathyM Link to post Share on other sites
Author Leigh 87 Posted October 8, 2012 Author Share Posted October 8, 2012 She should have offered to call a friend of yours to pick you up from the gas station. That would have been the safe thing to do for both of you. You really can't expect her to take money from the cash register, since that is not hers to give, or to get her purse out and give you money, especially at 2:00 a.m., since that would have opened herself up for a robbery. She should have offered to call someone for you. With that said, it's possible she didn't believe you when you said you forgot your wallet, and that is why she didn't offer to help you. There are so many scam artists that take advantage of helpful people, that there's a good chance she didn't believe you. Women asking for money at the gas station, claiming to have run out of gas and have no money on them is a very common scam that has been around for several years now, and people are getting wise to it, so there's a good chance she thought you were not really in need. Unfortunately, the scam artists ruin it for people who are actually in need of help. You shouldn't judge an entire faith based on one person's actions, and that one person may have not believed you to be in trouble, since that is a very common scam that has been around for several years now. I know many Christians personally who go out of their way to help others. One buys coats for the homeless out of his meager paycheck. One donates his time counseling men in prison. Several Christians I know make food in their own kitchens and bring it to the homeless to feed them once a week. We have a ministry in our church where church members volunteer their time to fix up the homes of the poor who can't afford to fix their home themselves. I could give you so many examples of Christians helping those in need, you'd never hear the end of it, but suffice it to say, there are many Christians who do live by the principles that Christ promoted--feeding and clothing the poor, and helping them in many ways. To lump all Christians into some disparaging remark based on one experience with one person is pretty unfair. The woman at the gas station should have made the phone call for you, but there's a good chance she didn't believe you because this is a very common scam that has been going around for many years now. That is what I don't get, Kathy: I know many Christians too, who help charities and do all they can, when they barly earn much of an income themselves. The fact she as a Christian, I suppose surprised me even more; given the Christians I have encountered have been very giving; one lady gave me a lift home once (and informed me she was a Christian when we were talking about things in general) Link to post Share on other sites
Author Leigh 87 Posted October 8, 2012 Author Share Posted October 8, 2012 And I absolutely do not think all Christians are a reflection of this ONE incident! Not at all. The other Christians I have known, although I do not agree or believe in their faith, the have been extremely kind. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Els Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 Leigh, I think in the future it would be good if your bf walked you to your car at 2am, even if it was absolutely necessary for both of you to drive separate cars. Link to post Share on other sites
pie2 Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 I think that the best way to know what she was really thinking would be to have a mature, civilized conversation with her. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
taiko Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 I don't know the local culture in Leigh's ville but around here the gas station is a high stress dangerous place. It is one of the last mostly cash businesses because stations add a surcharge for credit cards and banks add fees for using your debit card. The attendent is locked in a vault so the human scavengers pounce upon the people who enter their hunting zone. Unlike beggers in other locations it is like you have stepped into the so-called third world where mothers will press their childrens faces into the glass of your car or home to guilt you into giving. First you have the guy offering to clean your windows or pump your gas then you have the person needing that money to get gas home with. Christian, Muslim or non-believer walks that gauntlet everytime they gas up. And since the government taxes us all with the promise of helping those who ambush us as we pull out a bill it is easy to say no, actually it is necessary to say no because if too many human hyenas decend upon the customers of a business those customers will aviod that business for the large chain who is able to hire security to keep them away from the paying customer. Link to post Share on other sites
Eve Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 I don't know the local culture in Leigh's ville but around here the gas station is a high stress dangerous place. It is one of the last mostly cash businesses because stations add a surcharge for credit cards and banks add fees for using your debit card. The attendent is locked in a vault so the human scavengers pounce upon the people who enter their hunting zone. Unlike beggers in other locations it is like you have stepped into the so-called third world where mothers will press their childrens faces into the glass of your car or home to guilt you into giving. First you have the guy offering to clean your windows or pump your gas then you have the person needing that money to get gas home with. Christian, Muslim or non-believer walks that gauntlet everytime they gas up. And since the government taxes us all with the promise of helping those who ambush us as we pull out a bill it is easy to say no, actually it is necessary to say no because if too many human hyenas decend upon the customers of a business those customers will aviod that business for the large chain who is able to hire security to keep them away from the paying customer. Where I live you just fill out a form with your details and pay for the petrol later. This happened to my Husband once - he forgot his wallet and realised once he had filled up the tank. Due to the Petrol Station having your car details via CCTV as you enter, they can easily locate you if you not pay within a set amount of time. The form stipulated that there was a standard 10 day allowance to repay the amount owed. From this experience, I would say that such issues would need to be covered by whatever protocol the Station has, not by personal arrangement with the teller. Take care, Eve x Link to post Share on other sites
BetheButterfly Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 There is this lady that works at a gas station here in Australia, who told me one day that " she is a Christian" and sounded very proud about it. I said " cool, that's nice then:)" . It came up when we talked about robberies at the stations, which happend a lot in that industry. Last night I left my wallet at a friends, and ran out of fuel at the gas station. AT the gas station, as I pulled up. My phone also went flat. I had no money or way of contacting my boyfriend, and it was 2 in the morning. I went and told the " christian" sales attendant about my predicament, and she was not even empathetic! She just shrugged her shoulders, and smiled as she said " oh well then! Its going to be a long walk home! ( which she knew was a 2 hour walk) She would not even let me use her mobile to call me boyfriend. She was going to let me walk home, in my short tee shirt and heals, at 2 am down dangerous roads. This is a week after a well known women got abducted, raped and killed nearby and every one was aware and alert and dismayed about not being able to walk down the streed at night without getting raped, in Australia where it seamed safe. I am sick of "christians" thinking they are above non believes, and yet acting like total jerks! And do not even try to concince me she was not a jerk. Based on my values and how I was raised, she is not that great of a person. I prefer people who are very generous. First of all, not everyone who calls himself/herself a Christian follows Jesus' teachings. Secondly, Jesus did command his followers to help those in need and just because some Christians do not obey what Jesus said to do, that does not mean one should generalize all Christians. Third, I am a Christian and do not believe I am "above" nonbelievers at all. I do not consider myself superior to anyone. Rather, I consider myself a sinner saved by God's grace. Christians are not angels. We're not superior beings to everyone else. However, when Christians obey Jesus' commands to love and help others, we can make the world a better place. Atheists who love and help others in order to feel good about themselves also make the world a better place. Buddhists who love and help others, Hindus who love and help others, Agnostics who love and help others, and all people no matter their beliefs who love and help others make the world a better place! I am so sorry that she didn't help you. I wish she had obeyed Jesus' commands to help those in need, in your case, you, at your time of need. I personally believe she will be held accountable by God for not helping when she had the opportunity to bless you. I wonder... if she found out that you judged Christians by her lack of obeying Jesus' commands, if she would feel awful about that? Your thread is a great reminder to Christians how some NonChristians watch, judge, and generalize us when we don't obey Jesus' teachings to love and help others. However, there are Christians who do love and help others and they are great role models!!! My Dad is one of my role models. If he had seen you there, he would have given you money to fill your tank with gas. He has 4 daughters and strives to protect and care for us as well as anyone he sees who needs help. I wish you had met a Christian like my Dad!!! 2 Link to post Share on other sites
BetheButterfly Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 And I absolutely do not think all Christians are a reflection of this ONE incident! Not at all. The other Christians I have known, although I do not agree or believe in their faith, the have been extremely kind. That's cool! I am glad to read this! I have found people of many different beliefs to be extremely kind people. You do bring up though a very important point in this thread... Jesus does command his followers to help those in need. The Good Samaritan example is a powerful lesson about helping. I am so glad that you were not beaten up, but you were most definitely in need and it is so important for Christians to help those in need, in order to follow Jesus! Jesus healed people and cared for them. He didn't turn them away when they asked for help. I love this teaching of Jesus!!! Luke 10 (I boldened some.) "25 And behold, a lawyer stood up to put him to the test, saying, “Teacher, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?” 26 He said to him, “What is written in the Law? How do you read it?” 27 And he answered, “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind, and your neighbor as yourself.”28 And he said to him, “You have answered correctly; do this, and you will live.” 29 But he, desiring to justify himself, said to Jesus, “And who is my neighbor?” 30 Jesus replied, “A man was going down from Jerusalem to Jericho, and he fell among robbers, who stripped him and beat him and departed, leaving him half dead. 31 Now by chance a priest was going down that road, and when he saw him he passed by on the other side. 32 So likewise a Levite, when he came to the place and saw him, passed by on the other side. 33 But a Samaritan, as he journeyed, came to where he was, and when he saw him, he had compassion. 34 He went to him and bound up his wounds, pouring on oil and wine. Then he set him on his own animal and brought him to an inn and took care of him. 35And the next day he took out two denarii[c] and gave them to the innkeeper, saying, ‘Take care of him, and whatever more you spend, I will repay you when I come back.’ 36Which of these three, do you think, proved to be a neighbor to the man who fell among the robbers?” 37 He said, “The one who showed him mercy.” And Jesus said to him, “You go, and do likewise.” Christians are to go and do likewise because we believe Jesus is the Christ! If all Christians go and help and show mercy to those in need, that would make the world a much better, safer, kinder, and more caring place for all people to live! 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Taramere Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 Whether there was a weird vibe in that gas station I've no idea, but I do know that there's no way I would be leaving somebody to walk home on a dangerous road on their own. I'm not sure why there'd be a rule against lending somebody a phone in that situation, but I'd have said "give me the number of a friend/relative who can help you, and I'll call them for you. It would feel totally negligent, to me, to just shrug and say "you've got a long walk home then"....but now and again I've been astonished by other people who took that attitude. For instance, when I first started to work in kids' homes....this girl had gone out without permission and called at about 10pm asking for somebody to pick her up. The alternative would involve her walking along a country road on her own in the dark. At that stage, I wasn't a paid member of staff...just a student volunteer. The staff on shift shrugged and said she would have to walk back in the dark. I was totally shocked and insisted on driving out to get her. I didn't get into trouble for going against the other staff members' opinion (ie that she should be left to walk home) but when we returned they let me know they felt I was a bit of a sucker for going out to collect her. I just didn't see that there was a choice, really. ...but I've been surprised by how some people, in those situations, will show what strikes me as a very callous disregard for other people's safety on the basis that "they got themselves into that situation". Not only that, but they often seem very confident in the correctness of being callously indifferent. I don't understand it. I'd rather take the risk of being a bit of a mug, than take the risk that a young woman who got herself into a scrape was attacked because I refused to make a simple phone call on her behalf. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Mme. Chaucer Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 I have two questions: Was the wallet in your friend's house, or in Andrew's vehicle? Why did you tell us BOTH scenarios in this thread? How DID you end up getting home, and getting gas in your car, really? Evidently you didn't walk. Link to post Share on other sites
Taramere Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 This is what we called an "unreliable narrator" back in creative writing school. Yes, certainly seems like it. I can understand the woman in the petrol station doubting the veracity of the story if she's encountered the OP a few times. I think people often don't want to look naive in those situations, but in a sense the petrol attendant was more naive by taking the tough line "have a nice walk home then" line. It plays into drama more than saying "give me the number of somebody you know who will help, and I'll call them for you" would have. Link to post Share on other sites
Mme. Chaucer Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Yes, certainly seems like it. I can understand the woman in the petrol station doubting the veracity of the story if she's encountered the OP a few times. I think people often don't want to look naive in those situations, but in a sense the petrol attendant was more naive by taking the tough line "have a nice walk home then" line. It plays into drama more than saying "give me the number of somebody you know who will help, and I'll call them for you" would have. I absolutely agree with you (when do I not ? ) I would still like to know how Leigh ended up getting home that night, and whether the wallet was in the friend's house or Andrew's truck. Leigh?? Link to post Share on other sites
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