Author BetheButterfly Posted October 10, 2012 Author Share Posted October 10, 2012 sorry for PMing you, earlier said the thread closed. anyway, you got my reply. Don't be sorry. It's an awesome idea!!! Sorry for getting mad at you too. Peace? Hugs? Link to post Share on other sites
Hawaii50 Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 lol im just super lazy. and stuck on loveshack, i need to get off now.... No worries, I'm like that too, a lot. but I got your back.. we have similar names -Aaron Son of Moses, yes you bethebeautifulbutterfly. brothers.. paul, joe, micah, matt dogs.. levi and Enoch. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Author BetheButterfly Posted October 10, 2012 Author Share Posted October 10, 2012 No worries, I'm like that too, a lot. but I got your back.. we have similar names -Aaron Son of Moses, yes you beautifulbutterfly. brothers.. paul, joe, micah, matt dogs.. levi and Enoch. Bible names ....Interesting Cool! Aaron though is the brother of Moses. Does Moses have a son named Aaron? I would love to name my son Levi if God wills my husband and I have a son. My husband has a Bible name too - Samuel. That's cool you have dogs!!! I don't have a Bible name. Oh well. My name is DeLynn. I have been called Delilah before and my husband Samson, which is sort of annoying. Maybe my hubby and I should dress up as Samson and Delilah for Halloween! Link to post Share on other sites
Author BetheButterfly Posted October 10, 2012 Author Share Posted October 10, 2012 (edited) This is not good. I don't want to petition for Malala or the other girls shot to be a nanny or worker. petition a nanny - uscis Search Results How do I petition for them and their families to come over to be refugees? I am sure others with more knowledge and experience are considering this too, but how would I get involved? This isn't it either. I-730, Refugee/Asylee Relative Petition Download Form I-730 (1KB PDF)Download Instructions for Form I-730 (1KB PDF) Purpose of Form :If you have been admitted to the United States as a refugee or if you were granted status in the United States as an asylee within the previous two years, you may request follow-to-join benefits for your spouse and/or unmarried children under 21 years of age. http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.5af9bb95919f35e66f614176543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=59cf8875d714d010VgnVCM10000048f3d6a1RCRD&vgnextchannel=db029c7755cb9010VgnVCM10000045f3d6a1RCRD Help? This is better - http://www.immihelp.com/gc/refugee.html What can I do to help with that for the cases of Malala and the other girls and their families? Edited October 10, 2012 by BetheButterfly Link to post Share on other sites
irin Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 This is not good. I don't want to petition for Malala or the other girls shot to be a nanny or worker. petition a nanny - uscis Search Results How do I petition for them and their families to come over to be refugees? I am sure others with more knowledge and experience are considering this too, but how would I get involved? This isn't it either. I-730, Refugee/Asylee Relative Petition Download Form I-730 (1KB PDF)Download Instructions for Form I-730 (1KB PDF) Purpose of Form :If you have been admitted to the United States as a refugee or if you were granted status in the United States as an asylee within the previous two years, you may request follow-to-join benefits for your spouse and/or unmarried children under 21 years of age. USCIS - I-730, Refugee/Asylee Relative Petition Help? This is better - Refugee to United States What can I do to help with that for the cases of Malala and the other girls and their families? i dont know what you can do, but they have a pretty good chance at being granted asylum, due to their case. i work with refugees, in the uk they have to ask for asylum themselves, as far as im aware and the human rights acts, theyre very much eligible to be granted full political asylum. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
123321 Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 Not sure what timezone you're in, but NOW works. Fine, however she was not shot for "getting an education", she was shot because she was opposing a very violent political regime. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Hawaii50 Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 Why did you write that post though? about "f" and evolving and all that??? Explain yourself! Hugs to you too. I still respect you and I don't want to be mad at you. You are a cool man and I like to learn from people who are different than me. Please explain though cause that really hurt my feelings. Because religion is just one more thing to divide people, above all the natural dividers we already have. The detriment it has caused in ALL walks of life since it's conception. The excuse people use it for, and the excuse to stop searching for the true answers with-in themselves. You think any god would really condone half of what is going on in the world? I doubt it. and as the saying goes.. and if he/she/it did condone it, that's no god of mine. I know the foundation is meant to be great, but it is anything but. and I think the bad has out-weighed the good hand over fist, and again, through out history. Link to post Share on other sites
Hawaii50 Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 Furthermore.. It seemingly very detrimental to our present and foreseeable future. Now I sing Lennon.. Imagine alllllll the peopleeeeee 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Hawaii50 Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 Fine, however she was not shot for "getting an education", she was shot because she was opposing a very violent political regime. Bigger balls than you or I, so she get's my Kudos. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
123321 Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 Furthermore.. It seemingly very detrimental to our present and foreseeable future. Now I sing Lennon.. Imagine alllllll the peopleeeeee This is actually one of the huge issues that plagues the infamous IJM, they have a lot of good people but as an organization they suck. Link to post Share on other sites
123321 Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 Bigger balls than you or I, so she get's my Kudos. I would actually prefer she kept quiet and became a medical doctor without the getting shot. As Patton said, leave the dying for their country to the other side. Link to post Share on other sites
Hawaii50 Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 Fine, however she was not shot for "getting an education", she was shot because she was opposing a very violent political regime. one second and third thought (because it became circular) She was shot for getting and supporting education for women, particularly girls... in an environment where a very violent regime is.. it took both things to happen. if she wasn't or they weren't, then nothing. But she was and they were...so it did. Link to post Share on other sites
123321 Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 She was shot for getting and supporting education for women, particularly girls... in an environment where a very violent regime is.. She was opposing a violent regime which opposes on principle the education of women. Many kids were in that crowd which were not targeted, yet they were getting an education also. I wonder how the parents of the dead non-activist girls feel about her making a fuss? Ultimately her life is hers to risk but it went past that. Link to post Share on other sites
Eve Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 I know the foundation is meant to be great, but it is anything but. and I think the bad has out-weighed the good hand over fist, and again, through out history. H'mmm.. ok, name some good. No generalisations please. Take care, Eve x Link to post Share on other sites
Eve Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 Be the butterfly - Ignore my post. Wrong quote came up and I am too tired to correct it now. I was trying to respond to something else. Take care, Eve x Link to post Share on other sites
Hawaii50 Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 She was opposing a violent regime which opposes on principle the education of women. Many kids were in that crowd which were not targeted, yet they were getting an education also. I wonder how the parents of the dead non-activist girls feel about her making a fuss? Ultimately her life is hers to risk but it went past that. well she's not dead yet.. and the most honorable thing anyone can do is stand against evil, especially in the face of death threats. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
123321 Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 Are you saying it's right that a girl's life should be at risk simply because she had the courage to speak out against what she considered to be wrong? Nope, if you take 30 seconds and read back you will see me say several times it was terrible. It was not however as the subject line says "for getting an education", it was for being a political activist opposing a violent regime. Which is much more predictable but not OK. Link to post Share on other sites
123321 Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 well she's not dead yet.. It was my impression the OTHER girls were, or some of them. Two killed I guess? Link to post Share on other sites
123321 Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 If you're suggesting that the parents might be angry at Malala, then they are focusing their anger on the person at the wrong end of the gun. Oh if it were my daughter there would be enough anger for everyone who contributed and some left over. Link to post Share on other sites
123321 Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 (edited) I've read that you said it was terrible, but then somehow, you always follow it with a seeming justification. Forgive me if I am wrong. What was she an activist against though? The forced-closing of her school, so BtB's point stands. Should it be predictable that a girl of 14 will get shot if she dares to speak up against wrong? It's just terribly sad. Of course it's wrong. I'm just saying the attention grabbing headline is untrue. they were killed because they stood in line near a girl who had been acting as a political activist against a very violent regime. Edited October 10, 2012 by 123321 Link to post Share on other sites
Author BetheButterfly Posted October 10, 2012 Author Share Posted October 10, 2012 Of course it's wrong. I'm just saying the attention grabbing headline is untrue. I really am way too addicted to Loveshack. I thought it was possible for the girls to die, though I am so grateful to God and the doctors that they are doing better. If they did die, then it would be "killing" However, I alerted on my post and asked if," Hello, could my thread's title be changed to "Shooting Pakistani girls"? Thanks." Is "Shooting Pakistani girls" a better title, or what title do you think is best for this thread? I was just so worried that they were going to die and I still pray and hope that they don't die. As for the Taliban, it seems their aim was to kill Malala, "If she survives this time, she won't next time," says a spokesman for the Pakistani Taliban, CNN reports. "We will certainly kill her." Bullet removed from teen activist shot by Taliban It doesn't quote the name of whoever said that though. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
123321 Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 It doesn't quote the name of whoever said that though. Of course not, just like a salmon, he fears seals. Link to post Share on other sites
Hawaii50 Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 It was my impression the OTHER girls were, or some of them. Two killed I guess? I haven't read about her friends, just her... to knowingly do that.. I'd be interested to see what she was blogging about on BBC.com, that's what started everything and got her nominated for Interanational Childrens Peace Award. The soul was meant for something, even it is a spark to so much more. I dunno, again, my humble opinion. I can only hope that die for a cause 1/100th of that. Her impact has yet to play out, people are going nuts in pakistan,... Link to post Share on other sites
ImperfectionisBeauty Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 This makes me really sad, I constantly complain about school and how much I don't care about it, but at least I have the opportunity, those poor girls. Do you think that writing to a Rep or Senator would help?? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Author BetheButterfly Posted October 10, 2012 Author Share Posted October 10, 2012 If you're suggesting that the parents might be angry at Malala, then they are focusing their anger on the person at the wrong end of the gun. I agree with you and do not think that they are angry at her at all. Below is the link to a site with a wonderful video of Malala and her Dad and brothers and what they were facing when she was 11 years old: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/10/world/asia/teen-school-activist-malala-yousafzai-survives-hit-by-pakistani-taliban.html?_r=1& Please click on the video. This family is so brave. I personally they love their country and want to make a difference for the girls in Pakistan. However, I'm just scared that they are no longer safe there. There were 2 other girls shot. They need protection too and I pray and hope they heal and are safe, whether staying in Pakistan or moving to another country where people do not threaten them. Link to post Share on other sites
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