Kizzyfur Posted July 30, 2004 Share Posted July 30, 2004 Would anyone happen to know if it's illegal to read someone elses email or snoop through their personal belongings without permission?? If it's not illegal then is it admissible in court?? Link to post Share on other sites
xeon124 Posted July 30, 2004 Share Posted July 30, 2004 Ehh... I'm not sure the legality of it, although I don't think anyone would press charges against you. It's actually hard to trace back an e-mail reader and most ISP's won't disclose information to someone if they login and read the e-mail of another.... so I wouldn't worry about that. The bigger question is: What posses you to invade a person's privacy like that (especially if they have trusted you with their password)? Oh, and if you don't have the password and you attempt to guess it and guess right, that is technically hacking into a person account and that is illegal. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Kizzyfur Posted July 30, 2004 Author Share Posted July 30, 2004 Not me. I agree with you completely. My beaus soon-to-be-ex-wife couldn't get into his work email. So she called and had the receptionist change the password so she could get into it. I was wondering if she was to find anything incriminating if it would be admissible in court. I heard it wasn't but am not sure. I also heard it was illegal. I'm still looking for information about it. She has gone so far as to make sure he couldn't get into any of her sh*t but she could get into EVERYTHING of his (email accounts, IM accounts, etc..). She even checks his voice mail messages on his work phone. It's not a new thing she just started doing. She's been doing this LONG before I came into the picture. What I don't understand is she does this looking for evidence that he's cheating on her, right? Then even when she does find something that might be a sign that he is cheating on her, she's hurt but tells him she'll forgive him. Why bother if she's not looking for a reason to leave his a$$ and take him for everything he's worth?? Link to post Share on other sites
dyermaker Posted July 30, 2004 Share Posted July 30, 2004 You mean admissible in Divorce Court? I think that's different than Criminal Court. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Kizzyfur Posted July 30, 2004 Author Share Posted July 30, 2004 If she was to find something incriminating would that be admissible in divorce court? If she tried using it against him would it incriminate her for getting into his email without his permission? I'm just curious. He doesn't seem too worried about any of it. He just wants to get this sh*t over with. I think maybe in a way he's been hoping to get caught so she'll want the divorce. Link to post Share on other sites
xeon124 Posted July 30, 2004 Share Posted July 30, 2004 ehh.. sorry I assumed it was you doing the snopping. That sounds like an unhealthy relationship... cheating sucks, and part of cheating is dishonesty... I hope that both of these two people can resolve everything after the divorce especially if they have kids... ex-wives/husbands seem crazy mad at each other sometimes and it really hurts the kids Link to post Share on other sites
Fayebelle Posted July 30, 2004 Share Posted July 30, 2004 I'm no lawyer but I believe evidence requires a warrant. She could never prove authenticity by simply saying she found it. Send Sinner a PM- though to be fair many lawyers will not give advice outside of the office. This is a pretty general ? though so he may be willing to help. Link to post Share on other sites
dyermaker Posted July 30, 2004 Share Posted July 30, 2004 No, I'm pretty sure that only the police need a warrant. Link to post Share on other sites
Fayebelle Posted July 30, 2004 Share Posted July 30, 2004 That's what I meant - personal correspondance is not evidence unless a professional obtains it w/a warrant. She could get it- but could she use it? Link to post Share on other sites
sally1530 Posted July 30, 2004 Share Posted July 30, 2004 I read my ex-husband to be's email once... only once.. and found he was emailing 3 gals, had a lavalife profile and picture up (with shirt off) saying he was single and wanting sex and for the girls to send naked pictures to him... this I found out was happening during our entire 14 month relationship... I trusted him and then the moment I had doubts about his red flag behavior... I checked.. I felt bad doing it but he wasnt communicating with me... I needed to know before we married... I never thought he would have been doing what he was... Wedding cancelled, moved out next day, gave back ring, he paid $18,000 for a wedding that never happened... and he hates me and never wants to see me or talk to me again... its been 3 months now... Lesson learned... when you have a gut feeling... dont over look it... period. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Kizzyfur Posted July 30, 2004 Author Share Posted July 30, 2004 Sally, What you did does make sense. Not saying it was right. You felt something was wrong and checked things out. When your suspicions were confirmed you left, plain and simple. But she checks his sh*t and gets hurt and p*ssed off then tells him she'll forgive him. What's the point in putting yourself through the hurt of finding out if you're only going to live with it anyway?? She's been doing this since they married. Probably even before. She's always made sure she can access his accounts but he's not allowed to do the same. She calls him all the time wondering where he's at and what he's doing. If he calls her even once asking where she's at, she gets p*ssed that he's checking up on her. I know my POV may seem biased. But I'll have you know, she, at one point, had me thoroughly convinced he was nothing more than a no good a$$h*le. That is until I started paying attention to their relationship. Then I realized she was the one treating him like sh*t. I later found out through his family and friends that they all told him she was no good for him before they got married. Anyway, that's a bit off the original subject. Thank you all for your replies. If anyone finds out anything for sure before I do, your information would be greatly appreciated. Link to post Share on other sites
sally1530 Posted July 30, 2004 Share Posted July 30, 2004 Actually, I forgave him the next day, two days later he cancelled the wedding... he told all his family first and then me... I was devistated... he said he couldnt trust me anymore... well same right back at him... but at least I was willing to work on things... he just bolted. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Kizzyfur Posted July 30, 2004 Author Share Posted July 30, 2004 Then maybe you can explain to me... What's the point in putting yourself through the hurt of finding out if you're only going to live with it anyway?? Link to post Share on other sites
sally1530 Posted July 30, 2004 Share Posted July 30, 2004 This was is only goof up... I thought I needed to be understanding and forgiving since I was 28 days from the wedding... I thought he was having cold feet... and well he was... I just didnt see that they were freezin feet... anyway..im glad we didnt get married... it wouldnt have lasted long.. and my dad would have gotten stuck with the wedding bills.... at least I was not responsible for the wedding costs.... just the emotional damage... 3 months and it still hurts so much every day... I hope someday I will be happy again. Link to post Share on other sites
pixie2004 Posted August 25, 2004 Share Posted August 25, 2004 Hi Kizzyfur Did you manage to find out if someone could get into trouble for reading someone elses email. I really need to know Thanks Link to post Share on other sites
Author Kizzyfur Posted August 28, 2004 Author Share Posted August 28, 2004 No Pixie, I didn't ever find out for certain either way. Sorry. I kinda just dropped it cause he's not worried about it and doesn't use any of my advice anyway. I've decided to just let him do things his way and hope for the best in the end. She's got less than 2 months to get a response sent back in to the court. Link to post Share on other sites
beautiful Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 If you have to ask the question....................you already know the answer! Snooping through someone's e-mail is a sign of very low self esteem within yourself. Most of the time you are going to find what you are looking for. My point is that why be with someone that you have to snoop after? Is this not already evidence that he or she is wrong for you? Gurls......................please have enough self respect to not ever do such a thing because it is very degrading. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Kizzyfur Posted September 6, 2004 Author Share Posted September 6, 2004 Beautiful, I agree with you 100%. I wasn't the one snooping through his email. And I also don't understand why someone would do it if they didn't intend to actually do something about it if they did find proof of their suspicions. Link to post Share on other sites
rogueless Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 I have a friend that was able to use printouts of emails and instant messaging in court against his cheating wife. He ended up getting custody of the kids. He did the research on his own, no warrant needed. I was a witness in this case and was very familiar with what was used in court. That was about two years ago. I don't think there are really many laws on email and internet on the books yet. There weren't then anyway. As far as why a person would search for proof in a situation, I can only speak for myself. I did not read his emails, but I think my reasoning would still apply. He tried to make me feel silly or "crazy" for even implying he was cheating. I knew something wasn't right. I had to find out to relieve my own mind. To me, NOT knowing was worse than knowing. As far as staying anyway, I cared for him. I wanted to believe it was out of character for him, a one time deal, so I gave him another chance. Some women (not me) think they can "change" a man, and hang on to false hope. The reason she checks up on him is because he cheats and she wants him to stop/doesn't trust him. Hes probably done it before. My advice is to be careful with this relationship. I say, "If he cheats with you, he will probably cheat on you." Link to post Share on other sites
pixie2004 Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 my reason for reading mail was backstabbing people. We live in a world were we come accross many people that are so nice to you and behind your back they call you names and talk about you to other people. I was in the situation where my boyfriends family was talking about me behind my back and discussing me and me and the relationship I have with their brother. I was nice to them, borrowed them money, they stayed in my house, ate my food and behind my back they were discussing me... not very nice things that was said. And the best part is that nothing they said/wrote was TRUE. Nothing!!!! If I came across something like that again - I would definitely do it again. I would definitely read the emails again. (please hide your email addresses and passwords from me - tee hee hee hee) Link to post Share on other sites
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