Tara247 Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 I asked several pages back if Tara was the same person as Jennifer? Something is "off"! Umm, NO. Tara is Tara and I presume that Jennifer is Jennifer. Link to post Share on other sites
2sunny Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Something is off... but after saying that, I don't think they are the same person. I just went back and read a bunch of posts by both of them and the writing style is quite different. But Tara's writing style has changes in her writing style. Many vast changes from one thread to the next - her own threads... Like two separate people are posting for her. Link to post Share on other sites
Tara247 Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 I would hope you're kidding but I guess you're not. EVERY reason under the sun if Jen would ever have a hope in hell of having a healthy relationship. Personally I feel THAT ship has said bc I agree with others that he's very immature and unstable and it doesn't bode well for any relationship much less marriage. I think that because of Josh's level of mental maturity that it won't even matter. Thus I see no harm in him moving in with her. Again, the damage is done. He can process the end of his marriage in Jen's home while being with Jen. You see, I don't think his marriage really means that much to him. I wish Jen would weigh in on how long Josh and his wife have been married. Link to post Share on other sites
2sunny Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Where is Jen... I hope she's ok. Link to post Share on other sites
Tara247 Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 But Tara's writing style has changes in her writing style. Many vast changes from one thread to the next - her own threads... Like two separate people are posting for her. I could have Multiple Personality Disorder. The thought has crossed my mind on occasion. Still, I'm not Jen. Let's focus on Jen here though. Link to post Share on other sites
Tenacity Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 I think that because of Josh's level of mental maturity that it won't even matter. Thus I see no harm in him moving in with her. Again, the damage is done. He can process the end of his marriage in Jen's home while being with Jen. You see, I don't think his marriage really means that much to him. I wish Jen would weigh in on how long Josh and his wife have been married. Two years. They have been married two years. I just don't get where you have all this insight. What damage is done? How do you know his marriage doesn't mean that much to him? And even if you are right, doesn't that mean his relationship with J doesn't mean that much to him? I'll give you that he's very immature for a man in his mid to late 20's. Link to post Share on other sites
Tara247 Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Two years. They have been married two years. I just don't get where you have all this insight. What damage is done? How do you know his marriage doesn't mean that much to him? And even if you are right, doesn't that mean his relationship with J doesn't mean that much to him? What damage?? He's screwing another woman! He told another woman he "loves her". No, it doesn't necessarily mean his relationship with Jennifer doesn't mean that much to him. Being married for only two years isn't long enough for Josh and his wife to withstand the infidelity he has just committed. I'll give you that he's very immature for a man in his mid to late 20's. Yes. Link to post Share on other sites
Tenacity Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 What damage?? He's screwing another woman! He told another woman he "loves her". Yes, I get that (many pages ago) -- that damage is done. I'm just not sure how you think that is the "end all" of the story, or how it means he should move in with someone else. No one has any idea what has gone on in his marriage. Certainly he should not move in with someone else until he works out his marriage. Anyway, it's pointless I have decided. Link to post Share on other sites
2sunny Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 A man tells his wife he is gonna leave her a couple of days after a major hurricane and he lives where there is damage?????? After one night with Jennifer?? Really? MM don't do that. Ever! Come on people.........;) Sure he would - he just crapped on his wife and plans to walk away without cleaning up the emotional damage he's caused... And simply run to another gal and cause more damage to her... Why wouldn't an emotionally stunted and extremely selfish man be expected to do anything else? Ad Jennifer things she's going to win this prize when he shows up. Link to post Share on other sites
Tara247 Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Jennifer, let us know how you're doing? Any changes with Josh? Link to post Share on other sites
Author jennifernyc84 Posted November 1, 2012 Author Share Posted November 1, 2012 Hey, guys. Long day for me, sorry for not responding. A few things i wanna clear up, First, i still don't have power. Second, for the people saying I'm Tara, I'm not. I'm me And last but not least, for the people saying I'm making this up. HA! I wish i was. Does it really sound that bad? he called me at about 10pm. We had a realllllllllllly long talk. I demanded answers from him, and he finally opened up. I asked what really brought all this up? Why, after all these years, did he decide to fall for me now. He said that he's actually been having feelings for me for the past few months. He told me that he and his wife have been going thru alot lately. She wants a baby, he doesn't. He said having a baby with her is not what something he can imagine. He wants kids, but not with her. When he thinks about having kids, being a dad, he thinks of me. That's what made him fall in love with me. He wants me as a wife,a mother of his children, a partner. I told him i want the same, but he needs to deal with his wife properly. He told me that he does care for her, but she's not the woman he thought she was. Link to post Share on other sites
2sunny Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 And? Did he keep his word and tell her that he wanted a divorce? Link to post Share on other sites
Author jennifernyc84 Posted November 1, 2012 Author Share Posted November 1, 2012 Oh and btw, he still hadn't told her. They're in a hotel, still. Planning to go home hopefully in a few days, but its not looking good. Very badly flooded, from what he says. Link to post Share on other sites
2sunny Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Of course he didn't tell her. He may never tell her. That makes him the liar - since HE said he was telling her today. Evidence is = he lies! When his words and actions don't match - it makes him the liar. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Mount Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Hmmmm~~~~:sick::sick: Oh and btw, he still hadn't told her. They're in a hotel, still. Planning to go home hopefully in a few days, but its not looking good. Very badly flooded, from what he says. Link to post Share on other sites
Tenacity Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 So apparently he is still planning on moving back to the house from the hotel with her. How long are you going to sit around and wait for something that isn't going to happen? It ISN'T going to happen. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Author jennifernyc84 Posted November 1, 2012 Author Share Posted November 1, 2012 I hate that he can do this to me. Make me believe everything he says. Oh and he also told me that they haven't had sex in Weeks. He's afraid that she will get pregnant so he keeps turning her down. And then that turns into a fight between them. Link to post Share on other sites
2sunny Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 I hate that he can do this to me. Make me believe everything he says. Oh and he also told me that they haven't had sex in Weeks. He's afraid that she will get pregnant so he keeps turning her down. And then that turns into a fight between them. Ya right... Remember he's given evidence that he lies. Link to post Share on other sites
whichwayisup Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 I hate that he can do this to me. Make me believe everything he says. Oh and he also told me that they haven't had sex in Weeks. He's afraid that she will get pregnant so he keeps turning her down. And then that turns into a fight between them. Do you believe he'll tell her before Thanksgiving? Before Christmas? Before New Years Eve? Before Valentine's Day? Before her or his birthday (let's say either or both have one coming up after Valentine's Day)..There's always going to be a reason why he won't bring it up. So, they haven't had sex in weeks. She wants a baby, he doesn't. If he truly was unhappy in the marriage, why hasn't he spoken to her about this before? Why has he chosen to run into your arms the minute they have problems? Why isn't he talking to her about this and either sorting it out or telling her they need counseling? I bet she has NO clue how he's feeling ,that is, if he's telling you the truth. He isn't doing anything to make you believe him, you're doing that all on your own. This man IS a liar. Why you ask? Because look how he's treating the woman he said vows to. He is betraying her in the worst way possible by having sex with you and telling you he loves you. Hello, why can't he keep it in his pants, divorce and do what needs to be done and THEN pursue you? He KNEW and KNOWS how you feel about him so he in fact didn't need to pursue you now. If his marriage is over, let it be because he wants a D that has nothing to do with you. Right now that line has been crossed and you don't know what is going to happen. I say, end it and tell him to call you once he's moved out of the house, then you'll talk to him about what happens next. NO more sex. No affair. Let him separate and divorce his wife, THEN date him. You've waited so many years to have him for yourself, do it the proper and right way, rather than lowering yourself to meet his needs until he decides if he is going to divorce. If you stick around, you'll enable him to stay married. If you leave and focus on your own life, maybe there's a better chance he'll come look for you once he is divorced. If he doesn't, then it was just an affair to him and you two weren't meant to be. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Tara247 Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 I say, end it and tell him to call you once he's moved out of the house, then you'll talk to him about what happens next. NO more sex. No affair. Let him separate and divorce his wife, THEN date him. You've waited so many years to have him for yourself, do it the proper and right way, rather than lowering yourself to meet his needs until he decides if he is going to divorce. I say don't end it now, Jennifer. Can't you guys be a little patient? Can't this guy have just a few more days?? They just went through a hurricane and the house was flooded. Isn't it kind of cold to tell his wife in a hotel room?? Maybe he wants to at least wait until they step back into the house. That will be in a few days, right Jennifer? Link to post Share on other sites
Survivor12 Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 I was going to post the following pages ago but held off. Now, after reading about the most recent communication, I'm even more convinced that Josh's sudden interest in Jen came about because of his need for a convenient exit plan.... If he moves out and moves in with Jen, I think he's serious. Honestly, I don't see why he would lie like this if he isn't serious. Have you ever tried to rent an apartment in NYC??? Seriously, not only are the good ones hard to find and it takes time and decent credit to be approved but they are expensive. Much easier to move in--i mean "stay"--with someone who already does. I'm seriously beginning to think that Josh is a manipulative opportunist--that he may have been thinking of leaving his wife (or he had reason to believe that his wife was about to ask him to leave) and this was the plan all along--a place to live, someone to stroke his ego & free sex! It makes sense..He began with some sweet talk to test the waters; then, confident that he had her on the hook & that she'd be waiting with open arms if/when he needed a place to go, he backed off to weigh his options. When she balked, he knew that he has to do something to keep her "available" so he threw her a bone (pun intended-bad, I know!). After they had sex, he backed off again, claiming that he needed more time. The urgency wasn't about being in a hurry to leave but in securing his exit plan. Sadly, it seems to me that he is serious about "being with" Jen, not because he loves her in the way he's allowing her to believe but as someone who will provide him a convenient and comfortable place to land IF he and his wife can't work things out. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
skywriter Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 I was going to post the following pages ago but held off. Now, after reading about the most recent communication, I'm even more convinced that Josh's sudden interest in Jen came about because of his need for a convenient exit plan.... Have you ever tried to rent an apartment in NYC??? Seriously, not only are the good ones hard to find and it takes time and decent credit to be approved but they are expensive. Much easier to move in--i mean "stay"--with someone who already does. I'm seriously beginning to think that Josh is a manipulative opportunist--that he may have been thinking of leaving his wife (or he had reason to believe that his wife was about to ask him to leave) and this was the plan all along--a place to live, someone to stroke his ego & free sex! It makes sense..He began with some sweet talk to test the waters; then, confident that he had her on the hook & that she'd be waiting with open arms if/when he needed a place to go, he backed off to weigh his options. When she balked, he knew that he has to do something to keep her "available" so he threw her a bone (pun intended-bad, I know!). After they had sex, he backed off again, claiming that he needed more time. The urgency wasn't about being in a hurry to leave but in securing his exit plan. Sadly, it seems to me that he is serious about "being with" Jen, not because he loves her in the way he's allowing her to believe but as someone who will provide him a convenient and comfortable place to land IF he and his wife can't work things out. Man, I hope not, MM asked me if I'd let him move in, if his W ever found out, he was cheating. I said, "no", immediatly. At least , I did have enough sense to do that. UGH!I wasn't smart enough to say, "no", to his advances. Link to post Share on other sites
stillafool Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Oh and btw, he still hadn't told her. They're in a hotel, still. Planning to go home hopefully in a few days, but its not looking good. Very badly flooded, from what he says. Oh Jen, you should tell him if he wants credibility with you he has to do what he says he is going to do. Tell him you can't take him seriously until he tells his wife. Why is it yesterday he was so sure he was going to tell his wife and then a few hours later he changed his mind? I know there is hurricane damage to their home but if I were his wife I would want to know he no longer wanted me and was going to leave me before I went to the trouble of trying to move back into a damaged home. Heck, she may want to make other arrangements than moving back into and goinng thru the repair of a damaged home to go along with her damaged marriage. In my opinion the hurricane is not an excuse. What does he mean his wife isn't the person he thought she was? Get clarity on everything he tells you. Link to post Share on other sites
Decorative Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Honestly, I think the whole thing is in right order, MM met OW, had relationship with her, then decided to leave wife. That is typical affair --> marriage 2nd time. I think people here mostly the Affairs did not have such result, thus people may say bitter things. Only watch out for the whole thing is that, it seems Josh came to proceed too fast....but again time will tell then. No. That is not the typical affair path. Link to post Share on other sites
Pierre Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 He told me that he does care for her, but she's not the woman he thought she was. That is another version of "I love her, but, I am not in love with her". This guy is good. At least he switched the words from the cheater's manual to be a bit more credible. Link to post Share on other sites
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