Voluntary Human Extinction Movement!!!!!!!!!!!

[The nihilst chick]

Basically people who wish for humans to stop having babies so our population will decrease and earth will return to its former glory.They do not want goverment to force extinction on us or to enforce birth control as chin hence its called VOLUNTARY human extinction. I read another article in which scientists say our population is too large for birth control condoms efc to help two billion of humans will have to die or our population will triple before the end of the century and little resources will be around.

 

The wesbite for VHEMT is VHEMT. What do you think?

[Taramere]

I don't think humans are going extinct any time soon. Conspiracy theorists talk of the elite wanting to reduce the human population drastically. However, the private jet owning elite are by far the worst offenders when it comes to leaving a carbon footprint. The people most likely to go, in any population cull, would probably be the people who are least destructive towards the planet.

[Hawaii50]

Basically people who wish for humans to stop having babies so our population will decrease and earth will return to its former glory.They do not want goverment to force extinction on us or to enforce birth control as chin hence its called VOLUNTARY human extinction. I read another article in which scientists say our population is too large for birth control condoms efc to help two billion of humans will have to die or our population will triple before the end of the century and little resources will be around.

 

The wesbite for VHEMT is VHEMT. What do you think?

 

I think that anyone conscious enough to follow through will such a thoughtful ideal SHOULD be having babies.. It's not these people's babies, messing up the Earth.. it's the degenerates on drugs making worse and worse copies of themselves over the generations that need to stop..

 

 

So I think this movement would have the opposite impact of what's intended..

 

 

Good people pop goes down, while Crapbags sky rocket...

[Hawaii50]

If anything.. take the top 5% of the population, milk their sperm and harvest their eggs... then offer them up to anyone wanting to have a baby. All I know is, practical applications sometimes the exact opposite results...

[Hawaii50]

I don't think humans are going extinct any time soon. Conspiracy theorists talk of the elite wanting to reduce the human population drastically. However, the private jet owning elite are by far the worst offenders when it comes to leaving a carbon footprint. The people most likely to go, in any population cull, would probably be the people who are least destructive towards the planet.

 

China and India cannot live the "American Dream," there is NOT enough natural resources to sustain 2 billion more people with 2 cars and a house in the burbs..

 

Africa is the fastest growing population as of recent studies.

 

Way to go pope, in not accepting that contraception is positive thing.

[Pompom]

Extinction through voluntary non-breeding is unlikely and I don't support it, but I support people who support keeping the population in check through humane means, just as I support eugenics that encourage, in humane ways, the creation of healthy, functional contributors rather than just breeding wildly and mindlessly just because kids are cute. I mean seriously, why am I paying taxes so someone's useless lifetime nursing case can feel good about themselves in some pointless "special" education classroom no career and not even a dead end job will ever come from? I'm not saying "kill all useless people", I do however legitimately question the point in knowingly birthing them. It's inconsiderate to hardworking, contributing members of society, and pointless. A warm fuzzy feeling of "Aaaaaaw look, we're embracing all, even those whose seizures make them kick us in the kidney from behind on the school bus and nothing else will ever come from them but more kicks and maybe spittle" is cute but not worth the sacrifice the entire extended entourage has to make.

[Ross MwcFan]

Sounds just like Antinatalism. There are some Antinatalists want all sentient beings to die out so nothing will have to experience suffering again.

 

I'm in kind of agreement with it.

Edited October 28, 2012 by Ross MwcFan

[The nihilst chick]

I agree with VHEMT because thats the only way to stop further damage to the earth by overpopulation having no children adopting the millions already here. At seven billion its too late for birth control. There website has many answers to common responses vhmt.org

[The nihilst chick]

Why not support it? Instead of having babies adopt the ones already here. The earth cant sustain us all shoot it already doesnt! And it isnt about contributing memebers smart dumb people its about stoping overpopulation. Contributing memebers will still doodoo pee etc and pollute the planet.

[Hawaii50]

Why not support it? Instead of having babies adopt the ones already here. The earth cant sustain us all shoot it already doesnt! And it isnt about contributing memebers smart dumb people its about stoping overpopulation. Contributing memebers will still doodoo pee etc and pollute the planet.

 

 

 

A dedicated person would just kill themselves, I suppose. Or maybe just have one child. I'm sorry you can't see a more realistic point of view, or what is really plaguing society.

 

I wold never adopt, I wouldn't want the unknown and probably abused hodge-podge of nature/nurture you're getting.

[The nihilst chick]

I actully do.Humans need to stop being egostical but by the time that happens it will be too late. Thats the problem people are selfish everyone including me cept i see the disease.

[Hawaii50]

I actully do.Humans need to stop being egostical but by the time that happens it will be too late. Thats the problem people are selfish everyone including me cept i see the disease.

 

I see it, except I know I'm not the infected cancerous person that IS the disease. I'm not harmful to this earth or the people around me. I actually take more dents out than put in, I will leave this earth better than I found it. With off spring that are taught the same.

 

As I said in my very first post on this thread.....

 

oh yeah, now you gotta scroll up and read it.

Edited October 28, 2012 by Hawaii50

[The nihilst chick]

Ya but your children would still add to the overpopulation in the long run was what i read on their sites faq. The world population will have to decrease or slow its growth by alottttt. Some scientists said two billion of us would need to die now or else itll be too much of a strain on Earth before the end of the century. Now thats crazy stuff China itself has one billion.

[aj22one]

. No need to worry about population growth. haha Not for a long time.

 

And no, me and my wife don't have kids, and we don't want 'em. haha

[veggirl]

If people wanna have children, they should max have 2....enough to replace themselves so to speak. People who have 5, 6, + kids literally turn my stomach.

[fortyninethousand322]

If people wanna have children, they should max have 2....enough to replace themselves so to speak. People who have 5, 6, + kids literally turn my stomach.

 

Well as long as they're making the choice that's right for them, I don't mind one bit. I'd never do that in a million years, but if you've got enough time and love to spread around to that many kids I think the world will be ok.

[BetheButterfly]

I agree with VHEMT because thats the only way to stop further damage to the earth by overpopulation having no children adopting the millions already here. At seven billion its too late for birth control. There website has many answers to common responses vhmt.org

 

The earth has an interesting life cycle. The cycle of life includes death. People die everyday, same as people are born everyday. Animals die everyday, as well as are born everyday (those that are not extinct, of course.) Plants die everyday, as well as seeds are inseminated. That's just the cycle of life. Making people extinct on earth is not the answer... people are part of life on earth.

 

You could say that people are offspring of "Mother Nature" or "Mother Earth," as well as other life forms. People in themselves are not a disease that destroys the earth. Rather, what destroys the earth are people who act out in greed, hatred, and/or powerlust, which motivates them to destroy other life forms on earth while destroying each other. This is what needs to be stopped in order to heal "Mother Earth." We need to stop hurting and killing each other and other life forms.

 

Mother Nature has her own means of population control which includes diseases and natural tragedies. "She" doesn't need help from people killing each other. What "she" does need, in my opinion, is for people to stop killing each other and destroying parts of "her." She needs people to stop making bombs, stop or limit polluting the air (which is so hard to do in this day and age) and stop the chemical/biological warfare.

 

Now, personally I think it's fine and wonderful that people are making great headways in medicine in order to help people live longer and better lives on earth. That is awesome! However, it is true that this causes the population to grow. Long time ago, people died much quicker than they do today, and many babies died. Many young Moms also died. That is not the case anymore, which I am personally grateful for. However, it does mean there are more people now than in the past.

 

Instead of killing oneself or others, sure it's fine for people to decide not to have babies. Those people should get "fixed" so that they cannot have babies. Personally, after 2 babies, I plan on getting my tubes tied. Adoption is a wonderful idea!!! There are so many children in the world who need love and wonderful parents!!! So, it's great to adopt and focus more on loving and taking great care of the children who have already been born than in producing more offspring. I see no problem with that.

 

As for people who have more children than 2, I am not their judge. Sadly, there are bad parents who have just one child or two children, same as there are bad parents who have more than two children. Thankfully, there are good parents who have one child all the way up to ? children. It really depends on the parent. What is important is for Moms and Dads to be good parents, not so much how many children they have.

 

For people who do not think they would be good parents, I would advise them to get "fixed" so they cannot have any kids. For people who would be good parents but simply don't want to bring more children into the world because of whatever reason, it would be good for them to make it impossible for them to produce offspring. For parents who have had children and do not want anymore, it would also be good to get a vasectomy or one's tubes tied.

 

As for those who want to do volunteer extinction, the important thing is to keep it on a volunteer basis, though I personally would not consider volunteer suicide. I think that's sad.

 

However, my Mamaw (Mom's Mom) when she had severe stomach cancer volunteered to take herself off the medicine. That was really hard. She and my Papaw had been married almost 50 years... if she could have kept on till a little bit more, they would have had their 50th wedding anniversary. However, she was so tired of the pain brought on by the disease and the harsh medicine to fight the disease, and the difficult way she was living. She couldn't do many things and she didn't like that. She had always been a hard worker and a person who lived life to the fullest. So, she took herself off of medicine and the feeding tube. She spent a wonderful time with her family (we all came up to see them) before she passed away. She voluntarily did that. She was not afraid of death because she believed she would go to Heaven (we her family believe this as well.) My Papaw was not pleased at all though about her decision to get off of medical help.. he actually wanted to die for awhile after she died but his kids (including my Mom) told him no. Now he is happily married to another wonderful lady.

 

Anyways, life is a cycle which includes death. Because of this, (unless modern medicine finds a way for people to live forever on this earth) the world is not in danger of being too populated. Rather, some places are too populated, but that's because for some reason, many people flock to the same city. There is a lot of land that is not currently being used. Also, if people stopped killing and eating animals, that would drastically help!!!

Edited October 29, 2012 by BetheButterfly

[BetheButterfly]

 

I wold never adopt, I wouldn't want the unknown and probably abused hodge-podge of nature/nurture you're getting.

 

 

Many guys think that. Why is that? I have a hard time understanding that.

 

My Dad refused to adopt, which my Mom disagreed with because she wanted to adopt but Dad said nope.

 

I want to adopt someday but my husband says first let's see about having two kids and then later maybe. We will see. However, he isn't the one who initiated the "let's adopt" conversation. I did. He is the one though who basically decides if it's going to happen. I hope he says yes when the time is right.

[Hawaii50]

Many guys think that. Why is that? I have a hard time understanding that.

 

My Dad refused to adopt, which my Mom disagreed with because she wanted to adopt but Dad said nope.

 

I want to adopt someday but my husband says first let's see about having two kids and then later maybe. We will see. However, he isn't the one who initiated the "let's adopt" conversation. I did. He is the one though who basically decides if it's going to happen. I hope he says yes when the time is right.

 

The moment a couple decides to procreate, on an unconscious level, our body starts gathering the cream of our genetic crop-if you will, to put it's best foot forward. Once the actual conception takes place inside the woman, absolutely every variable the woman experiences, is experienced in the new being. emotions;anger/violence will cause stress.. Along with malnutrition in the form of poor (even if unknowingly poor) diets, and all the toxins one encounters in their environment.

 

The first steps, or foundation, in anything is the most important part of anything. From buildings to ideas, and baby human beings too.

 

When I am ready, and have found someone worth sharing my life with, and procreating, we will be going to Hawaii to cruise and do our deeds. to pop out a few babies. But, not before relaxing, getting in the best shape we can (mentally, physically, emotionally,) and detoxing. Then focusing on our love and connection together and culminating in as much sex as we can muster And also being there through all the terms of pregnancy and until the children are of a decent enough age to go somewhere else.

 

^^^^^ that's just the hippy in me, and what I've come to learn.

 

So in adopting you're not getting anything good, or as good, as can be made. Those first few steps in nature/nurture are the most important and will set the pace for their entire future.

 

I don't like the idea of picking up a grab bag of genetic deficiencies as well as predisposed crap due to highly stressed pregnancy (which any baby given up for adoption will have surely gone through.)

 

 

 

Effects of fasting during pregnancy (Ramadan)

 

Prenatal stress - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[Hawaii50]

Granted, me, or some other decent human being WILL have a positive effect on the human development, the nurture side.. and I understand the need for good-solid parents to pick up the slack for crapbag human beings... but that's just me, unless I had no choice, and even then.. I don't know.

[Crusoe]

Nature will always finds a way to restore the balance, always. No matter how much we try to fiddle with her ways or go against her laws, she will do the necessary business. We'll call it a tragedy but it's just nature.

[GorillaTheater]

If people wanna have children, they should max have 2....enough to replace themselves so to speak. People who have 5, 6, + kids literally turn my stomach.

 

Here, have a trashcan.

 

When civilization crumbles and/or outfits like VHEMPT (or whatever) gain serious traction, I'll have my own private army at the ready. I've always wanted to be a regional warlord.

[veggirl]

Here, have a trashcan.

 

When civilization crumbles and/or outfits like VHEMPT (or whatever) gain serious traction, I'll have my own private army at the ready. I've always wanted to be a regional warlord.

 

I am sure this will happen in your life time.

[GorillaTheater]

I am sure this will happen in your life time.

 

I see your point; we were promised a bunch of flying cars when I was a kid, too.

 

But if folks like you are willing for folks like me to dominate the gene pool, s'ok by me.

[AlexDP]

Basically people who wish for humans to stop having babies so our population will decrease and earth will return to its former glory.They do not want goverment to force extinction on us or to enforce birth control as chin hence its called VOLUNTARY human extinction. I read another article in which scientists say our population is too large for birth control condoms efc to help two billion of humans will have to die or our population will triple before the end of the century and little resources will be around.

 

The wesbite for VHEMT is VHEMT. What do you think?

 

Earth's former glory? Which glory would that be? Which Earth are we talking about? Humans are relatively recent. The Earth has changed many times before we existed.