Women, sexually attracted to money?

[dasein]

I almost feel like the social and professional groups with whom you associate tend to self-select for materialistic people.

 

Fair and well-phrased question, counselor. Admittedly, I have dated mostly women from affluent backgrounds, about 70%, and many have tended towards the superficial, but am also kind of a hippie in many ways, have friends and acquaintances from all strata, of all races, nationalities and walks of life, and have seen many hippie et al. nipples get just as hard in the exact same scenarios as described above. It's not just a product of being around superficial people, and that's what you are claiming, despite adroitly tiptoeing around the insult . Since you have read many of my posts, do you think I am superficial or have much tolerance for that?

 

More women than will admit are hypergamous, won't go so far as to say most, nearly all, but rather lots. If they would only admit it and fess up, instead of conducting their social/sexual lives as they apply makeup, I'd have few problems with women generally. Remember, I am a product of having been told 20 or so years longer than you have, from all angles, that men as a gender are depraved, cheating, raping, violent, abusive, sexist, objectifying wastes of skin. In fact, men are no better, nor one bit worse, than women generally, who have their own set of foibles that equal men's. Women though, for some reason, simply can't stand hearing that fact, which explains the reception of many of my more pointed posts to this forum.

[Robert Z]

So I took my occasional venture over to an old PUA forum I used to be on. Not that I ever believed in all of their mumbo jumbo...quite the contrary. I tried to be a voice on reason on that forum so young dudes wouldnt have their minds polluted.

 

Anyways I was debating with one guy today about whether women are sexually attracted to money/status/fame. He said yes. I said no. I said women will trade sex and looks to get a piece of the status and fame a guy has...but that in no way means the money is what gets her wet at night. In a purely sexual, jump your bones sense, I havent had girls want to do me because of any perceived status. Its always been because they thought I was cute and liked my body well enough to get turned on. My personality helped a little too of course.

 

Anyways, I cited examples to this guy, of who women tend to swoon over. And its not rich ugly guys. Its good looking guys with nice physiques in general. If you take away the money, the rich guy loses the sex hes getting unless he has the sex appeal to back it up. Ive seen good looking guys land hot girls a lot of the time, no matter if they are poor, middle class, or rich.

 

On the other hand, its super rare (practically never) that I see a guy who looks like Donald Trump or Al Bundy land a hot girl if hes lower or middle class.

 

Thoughts?

 

I think you are dead on. The drive to reproduce is the core of the sex drive. Men and women that are biologically most likely to produce successful offspring are who most easily attract a sex mate. Hot dudes are babes simply possess more features than average that signal reproductive success to the opposite sex. Men and women are no different in this regard.

 

There was an interesting study done that looked at the amount of skin exposed when women went out to meet men - this was back during the disco craze I think. When women were at their peak fertility for the month, without even knowing it, they dressed in a manner that exposed more skin than during periods of reduced or no fertility.

[dasein]

The provision of resources to females, and the ability to continue providing them while children are raised, is, and always has been a powerful stimulus to sexual behavior in females throughout human history. Whether the sight of a pile of money gets a particular woman wet or not is really irrelevant, it's a package deal and doesn't revolve solely around the man's package.

[espec10001]

Whenever questions like this come up, I think to myself if I met an average looking girl, but found out she was loaded. What would my attraction be for her? Would I be more sexually attracted to her? Eh, probably not. Would I be more inclined to *ahem* fake my physical attraction towards her? Maybe. But then if she was rich and I wasn't, she'd probably understand what the deal is anyway.

 

So, I'd say on a purely physical level no, sexual attraction would not increase for either sex. However, the incentive to fake increased sexual attraction would, and this would go for either sex. I mean, let's face it, I'm assuming the OP is a guy, and if he met an average looking girl but she or her family owned yachts and mansions and she liked him, would he turn her down with a chance to live a work free life?

[TheBigQuestion]

Fair and well-phrased question, counselor. Admittedly, I have dated mostly women from affluent backgrounds, about 70%, and many have tended towards the superficial, but am also kind of a hippie in many ways, have friends and acquaintances from all strata, of all races, nationalities and walks of life, and have seen many hippie et al. nipples get just as hard in the exact same scenarios as described above. It's not just a product of being around superficial people, and that's what you are claiming, despite adroitly tiptoeing around the insult . Since you have read many of my posts, do you think I am superficial or have much tolerance for that?

 

More women than will admit are hypergamous, won't go so far as to say most, nearly all, but rather lots. If they would only admit it and fess up, instead of conducting their social/sexual lives as they apply makeup, I'd have few problems with women generally. Remember, I am a product of having been told 20 or so years longer than you have, from all angles, that men as a gender are depraved, cheating, raping, violent, abusive, sexist, objectifying wastes of skin. In fact, men are no better, nor one bit worse, than women generally, who have their own set of foibles that equal men's. Women though, for some reason, simply can't stand hearing that fact, which explains the reception of many of my more pointed posts to this forum.

 

It wasn't my intention to imply that you are superficial. I'd hope the fact that you are far older than I would disabuse you of being superficial, but I have found that trait to be common in many of my fellow law students, most of whom come from far more affluent backgrounds than me. Although I've mostly reverted to socializing with my girlfriend and college/fraternity friends in the past two years, the main complaints I heard from fellow law dudes always involved their disbelief in the shallowness of women, usually manifested in statements like "I can't believe I spent $3,000 on her in the past few weeks and she just goes off and sees someone else." I've met a lot of these women too, and they all had two things in common: (1) they were very hot, and (2) they were very stupid (how else do you end up thinking it's a good idea to scream the N-word in a crowded, urban subway at midnight?).

[ScreamingTrees]

Solution: Wrap your genitals with dollar bills instead of condoms

[espec10001]

Solution: Wrap your genitals with dollar bills instead of condoms

 

Gross man. Do you know where dollar bills have been?!

[ScreamingTrees]

Gross man. Do you know where dollar bills have been?!

 

Do you know where my genitalia has been?

[espec10001]

Do you know where my genitalia has been?

 

In your pants?

[ScreamingTrees]

In your pants?

 

Yes. Not only in there, but in the dirt, on the ground, in the toilet, on a pitcher's mound, off of a boat, suspended over a moat, pressed up against a log, stuffed in a moldy sock whilst on a jog, bagged up in saran wrap, while covered by a thousand gnats, and bitten by a vampire bat, pressed against a shower drain, on a homeless man's lap, on a subway train, straight through my neighbor's fence, in both the past present and future tense, with guests appearnces on Lost™ and Without A Trace™, orbiting in outer space, the twelve dimensions, and all over your mother's face.

 

OH SHI-

[Ami1uwant]

Did you even read, let alone understand, what my OP was asking?

 

 

"women are sexually attracted to money/status/fame. He said yes. I said no"

 

 

 

When women are looking just to date ....looks factor in if the guys can afford her cost of dates. when it comes to settle down they will weight looks with money and with women who feel they need the man to get anything in life then they will look at their financial potential.

[kaylan]

Whenever questions like this come up, I think to myself if I met an average looking girl, but found out she was loaded. What would my attraction be for her? Would I be more sexually attracted to her? Eh, probably not. Would I be more inclined to *ahem* fake my physical attraction towards her? Maybe. But then if she was rich and I wasn't, she'd probably understand what the deal is anyway.

Agree.

So, I'd say on a purely physical level no, sexual attraction would not increase for either sex. However, the incentive to fake increased sexual attraction would, and this would go for either sex. I mean, let's face it, I'm assuming the OP is a guy, and if he met an average looking girl but she or her family owned yachts and mansions and she liked him, would he turn her down with a chance to live a work free life?

Yeah Im a guy. And to be very honest, I would say that if the woman was at least decently attractive to me and treated me well, I would possibly consider having some fun times with her even if she wasnt my dream girl. Notice I said Id consider it...not that Id definitely do it.

 

Lets be real here. A life of luxury would be pretty damn awesome, and I could see why people trade up for that kind of life. Some folks marry into money, and then divorce out...knowing theyll still have the lifestyle and status, and then go after what or who they really wanted all along.

 

And Im saying all of this despite by desire to be independent and take care of myself. The draw is still big if someone wants to throw an easy luxury filled life at you.

Solution: Wrap your genitals with dollar bills instead of condoms

Good one.

[espec10001]

Yes. Not only in there, but in the dirt, on the ground, in the toilet, on a pitcher's mound, off of a boat, suspended over a moat, pressed up against a log, stuffed in a moldy sock whilst on a jog, bagged up in saran wrap, while covered by a thousand gnats, and bitten by a vampire bat, pressed against a shower drain, on a homeless man's lap, on a subway train, straight through my neighbor's fence, in both the past present and future tense, with guests appearnces on Lost™ and Without A Trace™, orbiting in outer space, the twelve dimensions, and all over your mother's face.

 

OH SHI-

 

Oh look! He can rhyme! About his d***: the size of a dime. Buried in dirt, covered in grime; no one can find it, so small it's a crime. Only time it gets wet, is from his own slime.

[ScreamingTrees]

Oh look! He can rhyme! About his d***: the size of a dime. Buried in dirt, covered in grime; no one can find it, so small it's a crime. Only time it gets wet, is from his own slime.

 

Wow. You're a load of fun. What crawled up your ass and died? You sound sort of mad for some reason.

[kaylan]

"women are sexually attracted to money/status/fame. He said yes. I said no"

 

When women are looking just to date ....looks factor in if the guys can afford her cost of dates. when it comes to settle down they will weight looks with money and with women who feel they need the man to get anything in life then they will look at their financial potential.

For some women this is true, and for others it isnt. In my experience, a sexy dude can get plenty of dates without having to break the bank on cost of dates. So if the girl finds a guy attractive, I dont generally see them expecting the guy to wine and dine her constantly. At least my friends and I havent dated these kinds of women. Then again, Ive never really done dating the way some folks do...with the wooing and chasing of a girl. We usually start as friends and things seem to work well down the middle.

 

I agree that a woman who needs a man to secure her future will worry more about money than attraction. Luckily Im not much attracted to those kind of woman for long term relationships. I very much want a girlfriend who is college educated and/or ambitious about work and securing for her (and our) future.

The provision of resources to females, and the ability to continue providing them while children are raised, is, and always has been a powerful stimulus to sexual behavior in females throughout human history. Whether the sight of a pile of money gets a particular woman wet or not is really irrelevant, it's a package deal and doesn't revolve solely around the man's package.

We are talking about what turns women on though. I doubt most women are thinking "omg I cant wait to get pregnant so he can provide for our children" when they are gushing over a sexy piece of beefcake. Worrying about what happens with offspring is a further thought process that goes past innate "I want you right now" sexual attraction.

 

Of course women (and smart men) care about if their spouse will make a good parent. But this being said, we all know its very common among women (and some men too) to settle for a secure, good spouse...even if that spouse is someone who doesnt turn them on. I wish more people would find both their sexy time fun and security all in one package though.

Edited November 3, 2012 by kaylan

[espec10001]

Wow. You're a load of fun. What crawled up your ass and died? You sound sort of mad for some reason.

 

Haha, don't like it when someone spits back, do ya?

[ScreamingTrees]

Haha, don't like it when someone spits back, do ya?

 

What the hell are you even talking about, dude?

 

What was it? The "yo momma" at the end? Did that rub you the wrong way? I'm sorry that you took some Dr. Seuss nursery rhymes about my crotch being dirty so personally.. Hope you don't think the dollar bill suggestion was serious, people aren't going to read that and think "oh, wow, a legitimate answer to my prayers!"

[xxoo]

I fell head over heels in love with a dirt poor man. We are no longer dirt poor, but I'll always remember those lean years as some of the best times of my life. So that proves, for me, at least, that women can be highly sexually attracted when there is no money involved.

 

But I also believe that a man with resources can be a turn on, and I believe there is a biological basis for that. It's got to be backed up by a desire to share those resources with me, but that falls into the "protective behavior" which is highly attractive to me. Sharing money is just one way a man can act protectively. Protective acts go right to my groin.

[irc333]

I do agree, take Hugh Hefner at his current age and how he simply looks ...well...old.

 

He has his "girls" , his chosen few that he has been with all this time, farming through them like no tomorrow.

 

Apparently, these ladies don't mind throwing up a little in their mouth, just for some fame in fortune, while she takes a glance at him naked.

 

 

 

So I took my occasional venture over to an old PUA forum I used to be on. Not that I ever believed in all of their mumbo jumbo...quite the contrary. I tried to be a voice on reason on that forum so young dudes wouldnt have their minds polluted.

 

Anyways I was debating with one guy today about whether women are sexually attracted to money/status/fame. He said yes. I said no. I said women will trade sex and looks to get a piece of the status and fame a guy has...but that in no way means the money is what gets her wet at night. In a purely sexual, jump your bones sense, I havent had girls want to do me because of any perceived status. Its always been because they thought I was cute and liked my body well enough to get turned on. My personality helped a little too of course.

 

Anyways, I cited examples to this guy, of who women tend to swoon over. And its not rich ugly guys. Its good looking guys with nice physiques in general. If you take away the money, the rich guy loses the sex hes getting unless he has the sex appeal to back it up. Ive seen good looking guys land hot girls a lot of the time, no matter if they are poor, middle class, or rich.

 

On the other hand, its super rare (practically never) that I see a guy who looks like Donald Trump or Al Bundy land a hot girl if hes lower or middle class.

 

Thoughts?

[Revolver]

Many men of means know this and are okay with it. The woman is using the man for his status and funds, but the man is also using the woman for her looks and youth. The man is not really a target or victim. It is essentially transaction that benefits everyone involved. I don't think there's anything wrong with that, if that's what you want.

 

This. You think Hugh Hefner doesn't know the deal? Of course he does. But he's getting young hot women to sleep with and has been doing it for over 50 years. He only loses if he tries to Marry one of them

[Revolver]

You can buy company, you can buy sex, long time or short time, but you can't buy someones love or attraction. A lot of girls would sleep with Donald Trump, Hugh Heffner or Tiger Woods because they want a life of luxury or 5 minutes of fame or 5 figures for an interview in a tabloid. That doesn't mean she's attracted to him, it means she sees the benefits are big enough to go through the necessary evil of having sex with him.

 

That being said, very few girls meeting one of the above billionaires will be really attracted to the person and honest with him, so if you're gonna spend most of your time with someone who sees you as an economic resource anyway you might aswell make the best of it and pick the hottest one.

 

Do you really think they give a ****? Lol lets be real. People stay using that logic

[moloko99]

Women, as human beings, cannot be categorized in one specific group. Are there women who like money? of course. Are there women that prefer looks over anything else? yes. Same goes for guys. It just depends on their upbringing, their values, culture, biases, and another million things.

 

As a kid I grew up resenting girls for not going out with me (or even talking to me ) based on the way I look, how poor I was or how old my car was. But as an adult I came to understand the basic psychology of women in general. And now I completely understand that we do live in a concrete jungle and you can't blame a specific group of people, just human nature.

 

Now that I'm successful (not really bragging because this is an anonymous forum) I do find that more women are more prone to at least give me the time of day (after they find out what I do for a living). But at the end of the day, they will always go to bed with the the better looking guy, even if he's dirt poor and treats them like crap.