Sun Devil Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 For the past month, I have been looking at how to improve myself to become more attractive to women. Since I am a short guy, I know that I have to make it up in other areas. I have been building up muscle and I am taking martial arts and. I plan on becoming more athletic and muscular. I also have been expanding my hobbies and will continue to try out new things. I know that expanding my social circle could help me, but so far, all I get is more guys. Next semester, I plan on devoting more time to meeting girls and making new friends. I also am reading pua material and other books on social interaction. Hopefully, I will be able to get a girl before I finish college. Does anyone have any other suggestions on how I can make myself more attractive? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
ThaWholigan Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Don't lose your personal identity, that makes you the unique person you are. Everything else is just the exterior. Also, make sure you remain ethical. Carry on...... 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Author Sun Devil Posted November 20, 2012 Author Share Posted November 20, 2012 I wont change my identity, just improve it. Not so sure about the ethics part 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Failboy Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 I'd worry about finding a woman that accepts you for who you are good luck with that... seems this hasn't worked out so far from him, why would that ever change? @op: getting bigger / ripped is always a good start, because it is one of the few physical things a man can improve. it has worked for me, too. I still almost never pull, but at least the reception I get from women is clearly better than it used to be. I haven't changed anything else, so I can say with certainty that that is the case because of muscle alone. some would argue it is the different way I carry myself, yeah right, that must be it. reading some pua isn't bad, but try to not get sucked too heavily into that scene and mind-set. it can corrupt your soul. Link to post Share on other sites
ThaWholigan Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 I wont change my identity, just improve it. Not so sure about the ethics part Just try not to be a dick Link to post Share on other sites
Author Sun Devil Posted November 20, 2012 Author Share Posted November 20, 2012 Guys who are dicks seem to have no problem attracting women. If being a dick is what it takes for me to attract a girl, then it is what I will do. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
IT Geek Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Don't lose your personal identity, that makes you the unique person you are. Everything else is just the exterior. The exterior gets you "in the door". Only then will a woman learn what kind of person you are. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
ThaWholigan Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Guys who are dicks seem to have no problem attracting women. If being a dick is what it takes for me to attract a girl, then it is what I will do. They "seem" to being the key part. They don't always, regardless of what you read on the internet. Everyone who dates a woman is a jerk by that token . Have boundaries, and when I say ethical, I mean being honest and respectful - without being a supplicating doormat. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Author Sun Devil Posted November 20, 2012 Author Share Posted November 20, 2012 I notice this too. I never met a jerk who has a problem with gtting girls, even if he is not good looking. However, I have met nice men who are still virgins. Link to post Share on other sites
ThaWholigan Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 You don't have to be a jerk. I swear you guys are f*cking stupid ......... Just don't be too nice, but don't outright be a prick. Have boundaries and be firm if they get crossed, you can even tease and all that sh*t. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Author Sun Devil Posted November 20, 2012 Author Share Posted November 20, 2012 I have not met any jerk who has no experience with women. The only virgins I know are nicce guys. I am not sure yet if being assertive is a good substitute for being a jerk. Link to post Share on other sites
LittlePrince Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 I thought this thread was going to be about making a cologne that smells like money with a hint of immaturity, not caring for others, and reckless abandon. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Babe McBud Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 This is often misconstrued, but its not about being a dick or being nice. Its about being confident. People are attracted to confidence. SOME women perceive these jerks as being confident and want to hook up. Virgins often lack confidence, but its not because they are nice that they don't attract women. I'm am confident around women, act interested in them, but also tease them and don't really care if they stay or go. More often then not, they are intrigued and attracted to me. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Sun Devil Posted November 20, 2012 Author Share Posted November 20, 2012 If all it takes is confidence and assertiveness, then I have no plans on becoming a jerk. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
LittlePrince Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 If all it takes is confidence and assertiveness, then I have no plans on becoming a jerk. Women determine confidence or "jerkitude" after the fact and not before. We have established this so many times. Link to post Share on other sites
ImperfectionisBeauty Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Would you consider joining a frat? Or other groups on campus? I think those help, and be confident. Don't think that you being short is a hindrance some girls like it some don't but be confident, I couldn't care less about a guys height. It used to matter a lot, I needed a guy to tower over me but then my ex was 5'8'' and I am 5'6'' not too big of a difference huh? The one before him was 5'6'' also and I didn't care because I liked them (they obviously didn't like me too much but... that is another story haha) good luck Link to post Share on other sites
rocketman122 Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 For the past month, I have been looking at how to improve myself to become more attractive to women. Since I am a short guy, I know that I have to make it up in other areas. I have been building up muscle and I am taking martial arts and. I plan on becoming more athletic and muscular. I also have been expanding my hobbies and will continue to try out new things. I know that expanding my social circle could help me, but so far, all I get is more guys. Next semester, I plan on devoting more time to meeting girls and making new friends. I also am reading pua material and other books on social interaction. Hopefully, I will be able to get a girl before I finish college. Does anyone have any other suggestions on how I can make myself more attractive? there will be no difference in the way you look with a pound or two of extra weight on you. its when the person starts looking big with clothes on that woman will take more notice. not sure how much you weigh now, but building muscle takes years. martial arts is not a sport for bulking up. its an indirect sport for packing on muscle. dont expect a lot of muscle mass from martial arts. eat well to feed the muscle growth. 4 smaller meals is best. building muscle is such a wide topic & what you think is building muscle is probably far from it in my eyes. being 140lbs and ripped is not being muscular btw. its just having low bodyfat. anyone man can do that today. just simply diet and his minimal muscle will show through. simple. having muscle mass and low body fat is very difficult to do and takes years of dedicated training and proper eating. martial arts wont do much for attracting woman, but if youre doing it for a hobby, its always good. dont forget impeccable grooming and nice "fitted" clothing. if you dont have a sense of style, ask a woman's POV to help you out. or buy some mens fashion magazines and pick some outfits from there. this includes investing in nice shoes. 1 brown casual pair, 1 black casual pair, 1 brown formal shoe, and 1 black formal pair should be a minimum in a mans closet. btw, style and fashion are 2 different things. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Sun Devil Posted November 20, 2012 Author Share Posted November 20, 2012 I am doing weight lifting to build muscle. I am doing martial arts for endurance, a hobby, and a skill that I can use to defend myself. I am not sure about fashion. On my campus, none of the guys are into fashion. Even guys who are good with women sometimes just wear jeans and a t shirt. Link to post Share on other sites
RogerWallace111 Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Don't act too serious. If you're too worried about the impression youre making to actually loosen up and have fun, at least pretend youre having fun. Humor and fun all the way ! Then when you're laughing hysterically together, grab her ass or pull her close to you - she's not likely to resist. Link to post Share on other sites
LittlePrince Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Don't act too serious. If you're too worried about the impression youre making to actually loosen up and have fun, at least pretend youre having fun. Humor and fun all the way ! Then when you're laughing hysterically together, grab her ass or pull her close to you - she's not likely to resist. If she is sober she is for most men. Link to post Share on other sites
rocketman122 Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 I am doing weight lifting to build muscle. I am doing martial arts for endurance, a hobby, and a skill that I can use to defend myself. I am not sure about fashion. On my campus, none of the guys are into fashion. Even guys who are good with women sometimes just wear jeans and a t shirt. its hard to do both the gym and martial arts together. you will burn yourself out very soon. either that or youre doing both halfazzed. I can say that after a workout, I simply am dead tired. and I only train twice a week! so everybody looks the same, dresses the same. but if you invest in some nice clothing, that will help you stand out. you have your height working against you. something you have no control over. dress nice so you can get womans eyes on you. then its up to you to do the rest. cheers 2 Link to post Share on other sites
LittlePrince Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 its hard to do both the gym and martial arts together. you will burn yourself out very soon. either that or youre doing both halfazzed. I can say that after a workout, I simply am dead tired. and I only train twice a week! so everybody looks the same, dresses the same. but if you invest in some nice clothing, that will help you stand out. you have your height working against you. something you have no control over. dress nice so you can get womans eyes on you. then its up to you to do the rest. cheers But women don't want different. They want the same. Link to post Share on other sites
phineas Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 there will be no difference in the way you look with a pound or two of extra weight on you. its when the person starts looking big with clothes on that woman will take more notice. not sure how much you weigh now, but building muscle takes years. martial arts is not a sport for bulking up. its an indirect sport for packing on muscle. dont expect a lot of muscle mass from martial arts. eat well to feed the muscle growth. 4 smaller meals is best. building muscle is such a wide topic & what you think is building muscle is probably far from it in my eyes. being 140lbs and ripped is not being muscular btw. its just having low bodyfat. anyone man can do that today. just simply diet and his minimal muscle will show through. simple. having muscle mass and low body fat is very difficult to do and takes years of dedicated training and proper eating. martial arts wont do much for attracting woman, but if youre doing it for a hobby, its always good. dont forget impeccable grooming and nice "fitted" clothing. if you dont have a sense of style, ask a woman's POV to help you out. or buy some mens fashion magazines and pick some outfits from there. this includes investing in nice shoes. 1 brown casual pair, 1 black casual pair, 1 brown formal shoe, and 1 black formal pair should be a minimum in a mans closet. btw, style and fashion are 2 different things. This. I haven't really added a lot of muscle over the yrs however i've gotten lean & retained the muscle I have. Because of my increased definition people think I got big. Those interconnects between my shoulder & bi-ceps are very lean & make them pop. Get some proper fitting clothes. Slim fit, tailored, or athletic cut shirts are what I look for. I only have 14 1/2" inch upper arms & wear a size M shirt, but I fill them out nicely & they show off my v-taper to boot & women find that very pleasing to the eye. It'll take yrs to add quality muscle to my frame without any gear so staying lean while you do it slowly is really the best route to go. As for your attitude, learn to not give attention to a woman who hasn't earned it. Really, it's that simple. I enjoy being single, coming & going as I choose & not answering to anyone so if a woman wants to change that, she better have something to offer me & i'm talking about just sex either. Of course, i'm divorced so i'm in no rush to wife anyone up any time soon. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Sun Devil Posted November 20, 2012 Author Share Posted November 20, 2012 I dont enjoy beiing single at all. I hate having no intimacy in my life. Since I was unable to get a girl this semester, I plan on buying escorts to gain experiece. I am still not sure about the effectiveness of dressing well on a college campus. I do plan on joining a fraternity to expand my social circle. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Sun Devil Posted November 21, 2012 Author Share Posted November 21, 2012 Are there any books on how to talk to women? I do not mean just pua, but any book. Link to post Share on other sites
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