AllieKat Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 Does anyone know if this is right? Domestic relations called me and said the bio father ( has only seen dd 1 time when she was 2 mths, shes 12 now) employer called and wants her ss# so bf can put her on insurance. I said no because its sounded odd he got a call from the bfs employer wanting the ss# isnt that a hippa violation to give that out over phone??? And DR said they should have it since he has to pay support but their records for my case are missing that...idiots. I surely dont intend to give that out over the phone but why does bf "have" to put her on his insurance ...NOW?? DR told me i have to give it to him but if i drop child support which isnt much and i dont really want it anymore, they cant be made to give it to him.. Just curious has anyone else had this issue where the bf HAD to put child down on insurance? This isnt demanded by court order either supposedly his employer is "insisting" they have this... Link to post Share on other sites
FitChick Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 Maybe he is trying to claim her on his taxes. Sounds fishy. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Balzac Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 The biological father is entitled to cover his dependent for medical and other insurances. Most employers require documentation of dependent's identity by social security # and DOB. btw Child support is an entitlement of the child not something you can choose to refuse. If you don't need the funds for daily living expense, start a college 529 plan or invest in equities or other products for your daughter. Link to post Share on other sites
Author AllieKat Posted December 1, 2012 Author Share Posted December 1, 2012 He doesnt claim her on taxes at least he hasnt tried. But he just got a new job and im assuming they are on the up and up but does HE HAVE TO PUT HER ON INSURANCE? Im trying to find that out. Link to post Share on other sites
Balzac Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 (edited) I'm not sure what you really seek for an answer. He has freedom of choice to cover her. Why you seek to prevent him from doing so strikes me as odd. Are you confusing medical insurance with who dictates medical treatment? I am guessing that you, mother, have sole custody? As a father he has the right to set up a trust for his daughter, hold investments in that trust, property and much more. Why would any mother deny her child the benevolence of her bio father? Edited December 1, 2012 by Balzac Link to post Share on other sites
carhill Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 Who currently provides health care coverage for the child? Examples would be private coverage paid by you; coverage paid by you and your employer; coverage provided by MedicAid, etc, etc. Here's what Illinois DCSS has to say on the subject: Does the noncustodial parent have to carry health insurance for the child(ren)? DCSS will obtain, as part of the child support order, health insurance coverage for the child(ren). When health insurance is available through the noncustodial parent's (NCP’s) employer or trade union, DCSS enters an order requiring the child(ren) to be enrolled in that health insurance plan. If health insurance coverage is not available through the NCP’s employer or trade union, the NCP may be ordered to pay the insurance premium, add the child(ren) to any other available group plan, obtain private health insurance coverage or be ordered a monetary amount to cover healthcare needs. The National Medical Support Notice (HFS 3554) is sent to the NCP’s employer when healthcare coverage is ordered through employment. The custodial parent will receive a copy of the notice when it is sent to the employer. Insurance plan information is sent to the custodial parent and the Department by the employer's insurance plan administrator. The Department of Healthcare and Family Services has a health insurance program, called All Kids, that offers many Illinois’ children comprehensive healthcare at a reduced rate or at no cost to the custodial parent. This does not affect the NCP’s obligation to provide health coverage. For more information on this program, call the All Kids Hotline at 1-866-ALL-KIDS (1-866-225-5437). Your local jurisdiction will have the proper procedure for your circumstances. I'd suggest contacting them independently at the contact numbers provided publicly and actively solicit information on the subject. This presumes an order for child support has been publicly adjudicated, as it appears to have, since 'domestic relations' called you. Good luck. Link to post Share on other sites
Author AllieKat Posted December 1, 2012 Author Share Posted December 1, 2012 My husband provides medical. Prior to that I did alone which is what the court order is. Bal you can think whatever but when all the sudden 12 years in a man that has done nothing unless ordered to do something, changes and wants info it just seems odd to me. If me questioning a sudden change in the BF seems odd to you so be it. Hes got a history of ss# abuse, hes done it with everyone in his family and did it to me so whose to say he would try it with DD. Link to post Share on other sites
Author AllieKat Posted December 1, 2012 Author Share Posted December 1, 2012 As a father he has the right to set up a trust for his daughter, hold investments in that trust, property and much more. Why would any mother deny her child the benevolence of her bio father? Because hes an awful person! thats all I can say but let me put it this way picture the worst thing a man to do and thats the type of person hes turned into just lately found this all out. Money, trusts etc mean nothing when its coming from a person such as him. Link to post Share on other sites
standtall Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Alliekat..I would just give them a fictional number ..they just need an arbitrary 9 digit number to put into their system anyway...You don not need to explain anything. Whenever some system wants my number, that is what I do. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Author AllieKat Posted December 8, 2012 Author Share Posted December 8, 2012 Found out it was his g/f calling afterall not employer!i think he was wanting to get social to try to order cc in her name...he tried this before!! Thx everyone 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Balzac Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 W0W just wow. Nice of you to update here. You can lock your daughters credit history. You can protect her from his attempts at fraud. Link to post Share on other sites
Radu Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Found out it was his g/f calling afterall not employer!i think he was wanting to get social to try to order cc in her name...he tried this before!! Thx everyone This is fraud. Personally i would take pre-emptive measures if possible in your jurisdiction and talk to the police, especially since phone conversations are recorded in most countries. Alliekat..I would just give them a fictional number ..they just need an arbitrary 9 digit number to put into their system anyway...You don not need to explain anything. Whenever some system wants my number, that is what I do. This might get you in some form of trouble, depending on the law. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Nightsky Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Look it's very confusing talking to you. Thing is if he is supposed to have her covered and she is currently being covered by the state or no coverage than yes he needs her SS#. Like some one else said you can put a complete freeze on her SS# so she can't so much as open a credit card or anything if you're afraid of him using it. Link to post Share on other sites
SmileFace Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Nevermind read latest reply -- some people are just sick. Horrible. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
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