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I honestly didn't know what to do. She was flaunting that she likes someone else in front of me. Granted, I asked her and she told me, but you are with someone for three years....are you REALLY going to sit there and just casually be like "yeah I like someone...its stupid and its not even a relationship and were not going on dates and IDK what it is" THEN says I dont want to date/relationship with him. YOU JUST SAID I HOPE IT WORKS OUT with this guy, so what would WORKING OUT suggest? We are friends so I hope it works out we are friends????

 

Obviously trying to get some sort of rise out of me and it worked. If she didn't want to toy with me,she would just say "yeah everything is good" and that would be the end of it. We broke up on "good" terms....in the sense she wanted to be free and party and do whatever, while I sit here and pick up the broken pieces of a shattering relationship. "Good" terms.....okay

 

Why in the hell would she even want to do that? She treated me like crap right after the BU, so I wanted to show her that I'm not some parting gift. I also think its absolute crap that she feels disrespected or "thought I was better than that." She holds me on this string for a month and a half about how much she loves me and doesn't want to be away from me and I am the one, and I give all my support and good wishes to her while paying all the bills, then cuts my legs out from underneath me and says "I don't love you anymore" bulls*** or whatever and expects everything to be okay? Expects me to just sit at home and cry about her everyday while she goes out there and gets her fill? I'm not proud of what I said because it was stretching the truth, but I got a reaction out of her that she did not like what I was doing, but she dumped ME so who can really be mad here?

 

So....what am I to read of this and what do I do?

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So....what am I to read of this and what do I do?

 

 

well... you have lied about being in a relationship with someone new. When she finds out, you are going to look like a dumbass.

 

And please, for the love of god, do not try and get into a relationship quickly to cover your ass. That is really cruel and unfair on the 3rd party.

 

Everything you do is for your EX. You are obsessed. She doesn't want to be with you. there is no bait you can through that she'll bite.

Do yourself a favour and MOVE ON. N/C will help you.

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Hi Confused,

 

You read my post, Im the one that is living in Norway. I did exactly as she did with my ex, well not that I got mad at my ex for moving on, but it totally made me upset when he met someone else. I remember when I broke up with a guy, we were together for a year we were studying Japanese together. Then our whole class went to Japan for 6 months. I broke up with him and fell in love with someone else and was totally happy and crazy about him. Then my ex met someone, and I got so jealous and hated seeing them together even though I didn't want to be with him. I think it was because of my need to be "number 1", if that makes sense. (I was selfish and immature, I know). So, it may be that she has feelings for you, but it may just be that she wants to be the center of your world to make her feel good.

 

If I think back to how I was then, I think it would get to me if the guy suddenly stops contacting me after he says that he started dating. Then I would think he forgot about me and things are going well with the new girl. If you keep contacting her, she may think that you are not into this new girl, and she is still your "number 1".

 

But if she does contact you, it may just be to get your attention back. Or in very rare cases the person realizes what they are missing.

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Hi again

 

Mate , What the hell are you doing?

Telling her that you are in `relationship` and so have basically moved on?

You know what? If I was her and you text me that. The 1st thing I`d be texting back is

"Why the hell you texting me for then??"

 

You are playing games now. Dangerous ones that will, believe me, backfire on you.

I understand you want to get a rise out of her. Best way to do that is to forget about her completely and move on with your life and be happy with someone else.

 

No actually scrap what i just said.

Be happy with YOURSELF.

 

Remember my last post where i said you are being clingy , needy and desperate?

Texting her BS just goes to show I was right.

 

Stop the texting. Start living :)

 

 

aM

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Hi Confused,

 

 

But if she does contact you, it may just be to get your attention back. Or in very rare cases the person realizes what they are missing.

 

Hi HaveFaithxx

 

 

It`s very much physiological. We all want what we can`t have. Dumpee`s hate to think that the person they dumped can be happy with someone else. Even though no one will admit it, they still seem to have a mindset that they are the best and no one will ever replace them.

 

So when they ARE replaced, suddenly they are thinking " hang on a minute, i know i dumped you but how dare you be happy with someone else!! What has she/he got that`s better than what i offered you??"

 

And so they break their own NC rule and contact.

No one likes to see their ex happy. Anyone that says otherwise , well they couldn`t of meant that much to you in the 1st place.

 

So OP, the sooner you let go, the better

 

aM

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Hi HaveFaithxx

 

Dumpee`s hate to think that the person they dumped can be happy with someone else.

aM

 

you mean DUMPERS right? Dumpees are the people that get dumped.

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Hey guys..yeah I'm really not proud of what I did. In fact, I feel awful about it. Lying like that is never really a good thing. I caved and wanted some sort of sign she actually cared ya know? I broke up with my ex before this one and I wanted.nothing to do with her. If she found a BF within two months, I'd be happy. She would have stopped bothering me lol. With this ex, things were so well. She said she loved me so much then two weeks later said she didn't....no one can change the past, I just am still having a hard time how somone can switch their feelings and start partying all the time and act so different. People change, but good god lol. I don't know why she would tell me about somone else knowing fully well Im probably not wanting to hear it. I know exactly what I need to do, I just don't want to hence the name of the thread

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Sorry for double posting, but I wanted to say this too....It's not my business anymore because we broke up. I have free range to do as I please as well. What really irked me and made my mind go bananas is this person she was talking about. Her "its not really a relationship, its stupid." and "I dont know what it is" and she said "she doesnt want to date this person or be in a relationship." My mind fully goes to just like a sex buddy. I asked "how would it be then? Friends with benefits? Thats confusing" and she goes "I dont know what it is I was just saying.

 

While I have no problem with sex obviously, and if she is having it cool were not together...but I guess it hurts my pride because she lost it 1st to me. I made that night a VERY special night for her. I knew it was her 1st time (my like 4th person....she had a hard life growing up and for that, did not want to touch ANYONE. I had a hard time hugging her when we first dated) and I did a good deal trying to make it nice. I'm obviously no magician in bed, but anything I was giving was great for her since she never had it lol. She is/is still going to have sex again even if we stay broken up or not and I try to block that out of my mind. However, it feels like she doesn't know what it is and doesn't want to date this person and its dumb....I feel like someone just for sex. My ego would take a hit if that's true and it would just go to show that she isn't mature enough for a relationship....but she was for 3 years so that's what makes it weird. Again, she has free will and doesn't answer to me at all anymore, it just sucks to think that is what it could be. I have an INSANE theory of a person it could be, and if it were true, it would be a twist like the ending of a movie! And would make me feel less awful lol but I'm not going to divulge unless I know otherwise because its pretty personal.

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*I need help today. I'm in too deep now and have hurt myself emotionally. I dont know what to do*

 

Hey guys....I don't know if anyone reads this stuff anymore but just one more update. So she didn't say anything on Tuesday, but I missed a call this morning from her. I called her back couple hours later.....before she said anything, I told her I wanted to tell her some things. We never talked about the end of our relationship in detail (She went to therapy to deal with her co-dependency on me along with her rough childhood and teenage years...which then slowly turned into I dont love you anymore with the snap of the fingers) so I took the blame of everything I did in the end of it. I told her I became complacent and everything became boring. I said we did nothing of interest and we were both stressed with everything. I told her that it took a toll after a while, and I even had some doubts with how things were going. I HATED my job and I brought myself and her down during this whole time. I became a different person....someone I never wanted to become. I can understand how she slowly started to fall out of love because I started to as well. So I told her that and how things have changed for the both of us. Taking the high road here for me.

 

2nd-I told her about the "relationship" I'm in. I said I have been going on dates with this girl and things are going really well, but I don't know if I am ready to make anything official so its not a full relationship yet. I told her that I knew she was bothered by it....she then cut me off and was like "I'm not bothered by it. I just found it funny or whatever" which is a boldface lie. 5 straight text in a minute told me she cared about it. Then when on to say "You know the breakup hurt me too, but I didnt go on dates right away or anything lilke that (BUTTT yet as mentioned in previous post, she likes and has liked someone for a while. Hypocrite) I knew she was bothered by it. She then went on to say "I'm easily replaceable anyways" Anyways, I just said "Things can bother you ya know. We were in a relationship for three years" and she goes "We aren't in a relationship, you can do whatever" and I said "So if I have made our or had sex with someone it wouldn't bother you" and she goes "No it wouldn't"....Don't know if I really believe that or not, but not the point.......so small talk after that just to see how she was doing. She said good and she goes out a lot and never stays at home. Again, nothing she has never done before. I always think GIGS with all of this because she changed from someone who never went out to going out EVERY SINGLE NIGHT and she is really dressing kinda slutty. Changed her attitude and the people she hangs around with. Full 180 degrees....but I digress

 

I tried to ask her about her "situation" with this guy. She was saying it was complicated and what not. She said she didn't have sex with this person, but wasn't giving too much detail. Just said she kinda pushed the envelope too far and I asked if they made our and she was like "Come on now" and I just laughed and said I just wanted to know....then I asked what is he dating someone already and she was like "yeah...I don't know" I asked her "You said the other day you don't want to date this person so whats up. She goes "I mean I want everything to work and and possibly date this person down the road"....okay changed her answer for the 3rd time haha.. and I asked I hope it works out and she goes "it won't but thanks." She mentioned she had no money because she spent it on going to a concert in another state....and I know already it was the guy in question so I'm going to assume something happened during this time....again, not my business. I ended up telling her I hope she is doing okay. I told her I dont think we can be friends....she said okay dont be my friend then. I said it's not like THAT, I just dont think its a good idea. I then ended the convo before it got too weird (as if it wasnt already)

 

After that, she texted me a picture of the cat we bought....made me pretty sad because it was a kitty when we bought it, now its a full grown cat. I told her again that the problems made the relationship sour quickly and that I was sad to see it end." She goes "Well dont take all the heat I messed up too." She goes "I just didnt feel the same anymore and I'm sorry" and I said "yeah things became too routine. Around Christmas time last year we were great and then after, I started to work full time and things became the same. Work, home, lazy, food, shower, maybe sex, bed....and we might have moved in with eachother too early" She goes "Yeah maybe. I just think you changed" To which I replied "Yeah I know I became someone I never wanted to be. Thats why I moved and I was grumpy" and she just laughed at it. Finished it with "I didnt want to bring up any of the past, but I felt you needed to know this." and she said "Thank you" and that was it....

 

She is still as depressed and mildly bipolar like she was before. She use to complain that she was not important enough and how "ugly" she was. I thought her 8 weeks of therapy would help that a bit, but I think the ugly factor has changed since she puts on a bunch of makeup and goes out all the time and probably gets a lot of attention, but the insecurities are still there. She keeps taking off her facebook and then putting it back up again... In anything, she just WANTS attention. That's her main thing. She wasn't getting as much from me, so she started going out with her friends and getting it from the guys in the clubs.....trying to get with someone who is IN a relationship already is dumb, insecure,and probably the reason she left in the first place. Being a 21 year old who has never had a relationship before and has grown up as an outcast and doesn't know how to handle herself is hard for anyone. The thing with all of this is I'm not mad at all at her. I really am not. I'm not trying to make excuses for her, but I do get it. I worried about this when we first got together (I was 23 she was 18) I told her a bunch "I'm always concerned that you will want to find out what else is out there since you've never had a relationship" and she always said "oh no I love you I don't want that." Well, when things starting to get a little routine, she felt like love was lost. She went from I love you SO much and two weeks later said I don't anymore. That's why I'm so confused. She seems happy one minute, then sad the next. No one can change someone else's feelings and I do understand that.

 

I can't MAKE her love me. As hard as I want that, I can't. During this whole thing, I know we are good for eachother. I know she is what I want. Its SO hard to move on and I've tried to. GOD KNOWS I've tried to. I have and have not changed. I have that I know whats important to me. It's not about work, its not about money......its about those around us who makes us who we are. She is important to me.....Its hard to care for someone and then they just leave. I cant change her mind, but I want a chance to show that its not the same anymore. Doing NC (which ive done) helps ME and gets her out of my mind (and she did contact me during that time), but the difference is I'm not wanting to show her I dont care ya know? I KNOW I KNOW I NEED TO DO NC, LET HER CONTACT ME IF ANYTHING, SHE DOESNT DESERVE YOU AND FORGET ABOUT IT. THERE ARE MORE FISH YEP YEP YEP I know I'm really smart when it comes to stuff like that. But I honestly people....I care about her so much. I really do. I know its dumb....I need help

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OMG - stop talking to her! You going to drive yourself crazy.

 

You BOTH need space from each other. You and her. If you still want to be posting threads in 6 months over what she said, what she means, what she's doing , then keep communication up with her.

 

I think you should seriously think through what you are doing to yourself by keeping in touch with her. You will not heal and you will not meet anyone else while you are so obsessed with her and her life.

You need to give yourself TIME AWAY FROM HER.

 

1 month, 3 months 6 months. Just commit to something.

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OMG - stop talking to her! You going to drive yourself crazy.

 

You BOTH need space from each other. You and her. If you still want to be posting threads in 6 months over what she said, what she means, what she's doing , then keep communication up with her.

 

I think you should seriously think through what you are doing to yourself by keeping in touch with her. You will not heal and you will not meet anyone else while you are so obsessed with her and her life.

You need to give yourself TIME AWAY FROM HER.

 

1 month, 3 months 6 months. Just commit to something.

 

I like how you threw the OMG in there lol. It made me smile. I imagine just someone next to me going OMG STFU!! Anyways, that answer is something I know I need to do. After the BU, I went straight into NC. It lasted a month...she texted me twice saying she hoped I was well and I didnt answer. It was during Thanksgiving time too, so I felt proud for keeping my word. With ending a relationship where she thought I didnt care, I thought maybe NC would look like I REALLY don't care so I finally said "hey Ive been busy. Hope you are well too. That was about two weeks ago and its been LC since then minus today. Then she said about this guy she likes but doesnt know what it is and doesnt think it will work. I dont like the "growing up" aspect of life. I know she needs to do it and I cant force anything, just let it go. I know one of her best friends is probably in her ear telling her what to do. She just broke off a 4 year perfect relationship couple weeks ago out of thin air too. Too much investigating on my part I know. She mentioned today that she was ready to get out of the town she is as FAST as possible. She graduates in May. My pipe dream when I lived there was for her to get done, and then we move away somewhere. MAYBE that scared her? Maybe the talks of marriage scared her? Maybe she really just doesnt love me anymore? There is so much crap to take in.

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If you really, honestly, in your heart of hearts want a chance with her in the future.... you have to leave her alone for at least a year, probably 2. NO CONTACT.

The cold hard truth is that she needs to be with other people. Don't hang about to watch this. LET HER GO.

 

Do it for yourself. If you know she needs to grow up... let her.

 

One day, you can reconnect, maybe. But not now, not next week, not in a month.

 

Don't you see that all that N/C you did now means nothing? Re read your posts. You are back at SQUARE 1 - over analyzing and questioning everything she says, does. You are Obsessed!

 

N/C !!!!

N/C!!!!!!

 

N/C!!!!!!

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If you really, honestly, in your heart of hearts want a chance with her in the future.... you have to leave her alone for at least a year, probably 2. NO CONTACT.

The cold hard truth is that she needs to be with other people. Don't hang about to watch this. LET HER GO.

 

Do it for yourself. If you know she needs to grow up... let her.

 

One day, you can reconnect, maybe. But not now, not next week, not in a month.

 

Don't you see that all that N/C you did now means nothing? Re read your posts. You are back at SQUARE 1 - over analyzing and questioning everything she says, does. You are Obsessed!

 

N/C !!!!

N/C!!!!!!

 

N/C!!!!!!

 

Thanks for the reply :). I'm obviously getting to that point and it needs to happen. The NC is for the person to heal and get over the situation I do know this. What the situation I'm running into is not that things needs to get solved in the immediate future, but she does graduate in May. She started this whole "OMG what am I doing" stage in her life this in her senior year. I know even with or without me, she has been stressing to the max about her life. She has been more stressed this semester because half of her friends just graduated over the weekend. She doesnt have much self worth and thinks she won't amount to much. She was talking about moving to another country at one point last month because she had nothing left here. She doesn't talk to her parents, doesn't have a car, has two close friends, and me. ITS NOT MY PROBLEM ANYMORE I DO GET THIS. SHE MADE IT CLEAR WHEN SHE BROKE UP. Now, I'm out of the equation for the interm obviously if not forever. I talked to her today about it and she said she wants to get out of where she lives pronto. She does need to see the other side of the fence in terms of guys. Her first choice is someone IN a relationship already, so not a good start lol. As I said, that was always my thing is that she does need to see the other side of the guy fence. Even just being hit on was a plus because that never happened either.

 

Here is a quick snippet of information I want to say: When she FIRST did the "BU", it was three months ago. She said she had demons she needed to work out, go to therapy (which she did) and she swore she would be back and loved me a hell of a lot. I kept NC-LC during this, and she was so afraid I would leave her during her time of need. About three weeks in, I caved and told her how I felt about her. And she said "WHY DIDN'T YOU TELL ME THIS BEFORE?" And I told her the reasons (I was dumb-work was getting in my way-etc) and I asked why. She said "I don't know. You have changed a lot this year. I dont need for you to tell me you love me every single day, but I do want to hear it from time to time." I told her I was sorry and she said "That is okay because I love you. We can make this work." I was happy with that day....during the rest of her BU, she slowly started to change her tune. The lovey text she was sending the first like four weeks came in less, the distance grew farther, etc. I'm thinking new guy came in during this time.... I gave her the space she wanted though. The day she officially said she wanted to stay single, she gave me like 30 random reasons (grasping for straws) but she did say "It shouldnt have taken a breakup for you to realize how much I care"....though she forgave me weeks prior but whatever.....I was sad obviously and did the whole begging/killing the phone/etc. until she said to stop. So that is when I again went to NC for a month. Now TODAY, we were again talking about the relationship, and I told her about my mistakes and she mentioned "I just think that you changed as a person." And it is TRUE I did. I became Mr. Grinch. Again, I've realized how dumb I was. Work killed me......I've told her how different it is and she says "I am glad." Now, words only DO so much, its the actions that count. I cannot show her the actions if I don't see her/talk to her. She MADE the decision obviously and what not, but I feel like I need to show her the change before I fully go away for a long time. I want her to see it and if she doesnt want to make that choice, then at least I can say that was EVERYTHING I could give. Words dont mean a lot without actions and sadly, she hasnt been able to see any actions, just text/phone convos. Does that make sense?

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Thanks for the reply :). I'm obviously getting to that point and it needs to happen. The NC is for the person to heal and get over the situation I do know this. What the situation I'm running into is not that things needs to get solved in the immediate future, but she does graduate in May. She started this whole "OMG what am I doing" stage in her life this in her senior year. I know even with or without me, she has been stressing to the max about her life. She has been more stressed this semester because half of her friends just graduated over the weekend. She doesnt have much self worth and thinks she won't amount to much. She was talking about moving to another country at one point last month because she had nothing left here. She doesn't talk to her parents, doesn't have a car, has two close friends, and me. ITS NOT MY PROBLEM ANYMORE I DO GET THIS. SHE MADE IT CLEAR WHEN SHE BROKE UP. Now, I'm out of the equation for the interm obviously if not forever. I talked to her today about it and she said she wants to get out of where she lives pronto. She does need to see the other side of the fence in terms of guys. Her first choice is someone IN a relationship already, so not a good start lol. As I said, that was always my thing is that she does need to see the other side of the guy fence. Even just being hit on was a plus because that never happened either.

 

Here is a quick snippet of information I want to say: When she FIRST did the "BU", it was three months ago. She said she had demons she needed to work out, go to therapy (which she did) and she swore she would be back and loved me a hell of a lot. I kept NC-LC during this, and she was so afraid I would leave her during her time of need. About three weeks in, I caved and told her how I felt about her. And she said "WHY DIDN'T YOU TELL ME THIS BEFORE?" And I told her the reasons (I was dumb-work was getting in my way-etc) and I asked why. She said "I don't know. You have changed a lot this year. I dont need for you to tell me you love me every single day, but I do want to hear it from time to time." I told her I was sorry and she said "That is okay because I love you. We can make this work." I was happy with that day....during the rest of her BU, she slowly started to change her tune. The lovey text she was sending the first like four weeks came in less, the distance grew farther, etc. I'm thinking new guy came in during this time.... I gave her the space she wanted though. The day she officially said she wanted to stay single, she gave me like 30 random reasons (grasping for straws) but she did say "It shouldnt have taken a breakup for you to realize how much I care"....though she forgave me weeks prior but whatever.....I was sad obviously and did the whole begging/killing the phone/etc. until she said to stop. So that is when I again went to NC for a month. Now TODAY, we were again talking about the relationship, and I told her about my mistakes and she mentioned "I just think that you changed as a person." And it is TRUE I did. I became Mr. Grinch. Again, I've realized how dumb I was. Work killed me......I've told her how different it is and she says "I am glad." Now, words only DO so much, its the actions that count. I cannot show her the actions if I don't see her/talk to her. She MADE the decision obviously and what not, but I feel like I need to show her the change before I fully go away for a long time. I want her to see it and if she doesnt want to make that choice, then at least I can say that was EVERYTHING I could give. Words dont mean a lot without actions and sadly, she hasnt been able to see any actions, just text/phone convos. Does that make sense?

 

Hey again.

 

She is keeping you on the backboiler.

She won`t see any actions from you because there hasn`t been any from you. You keep doing the same thing and expecting a different result from her.

You need to really stop and ask yourself `why do i KEEP doing the same thing over and over when clearly it isn`t working?`

The only time your actions worked was when you went NC. Then after a month, she contacted you, threw you a few crumbs and once again you were doing the chasing while ONCE again she became cold. She didn`t have to chase. She knew you would.

Don`t know what else to say to you.

If you still want her let her go. Stop the pushing start pulling, then when she comes sniffing around, back off some more, she`ll follow.

 

aM

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Hey again.

 

She is keeping you on the backboiler.

She won`t see any actions from you because there hasn`t been any from you. You keep doing the same thing and expecting a different result from her.

You need to really stop and ask yourself `why do i KEEP doing the same thing over and over when clearly it isn`t working?`

The only time your actions worked was when you went NC. Then after a month, she contacted you, threw you a few crumbs and once again you were doing the chasing while ONCE again she became cold. She didn`t have to chase. She knew you would.

Don`t know what else to say to you.

If you still want her let her go. Stop the pushing start pulling, then when she comes sniffing around, back off some more, she`ll follow.

 

aM

 

Hey AM again. Thanks for the reply (again haha). Yeah, NC needs to happen. I've started it yesterday morning again....Its obviously hard and is just weird. I mentioned to her like I said, the "new girlfriend" or whatever, and she cared that day that I moved on so fast, but I KNOW she is into this other guy and probably left me for that. So she can get upset about that (even though its just going on dates) but yet she is going for broke with this guy? She is into someone who already HAS a relationship lol. I've known for a while they were good friends, and it amped up by like 1000 when she broke up with me. They hang out all the time now and it apparently doesn't bother his current GF very much. Both my GF and his BF don't own cars either so that's interesting how they hang out lol. I guess from what I talked to her about, she is hinting that she hopes he will break up with his current GF for her, which is sick to me but knows it wont happen and is very negative on it. Told me "I'm easily replaceable anyways" and how "nothing ever works anyways." So begs the questions: Why would I even want her back to begin with???? If she is willing to sacrifice a perfectly good relationship between two people for her own sake...just wrong. At the same time though, she just wants someone to care. She has her own issues. Deep rooted issues that might be fueling her currently. I know she wants to be accepted and loved and thats what I was doing for her for the better part of 2 and half years. There was a rough patch for two months where we didnt see eachother very much, and now I look at a girl who was everything to me just distant because she is deeply infatuated with someone right now. I want to be that person again and you cant change how someone feels. With that, I feel like there is something still here and I think she can feel it too because she was saying weeks prior to the BU how much she loved me, cared for me, I was the one, etc...then one week BAM stopped. So it leads me to think some hope with this guy was given and she has been chasing for the better part of three months now. It's dumb

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Confused hiya!!

 

you aren`t seeing the bigger picture.

You can`t possible know what she is thinking or feeling!!

 

There is a pattern here, don`t you see it?

You are chasing her

She is chasing this other guy.

Other guy is with someone.

So she chases him more ( she wants what she cant have)

What happens?

you chase her more( you want what you cant have)

 

Last time you stopped chasing....( NC), what happened?

"It's dumb "

Totally agree with you! It IS dumb what she is doing!

You are doing the EXACT same thing with her

Make sense??

 

Hope you had a GREAT christmas :)

keep posting

 

aM

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