Anela Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 All that shows is that women are much picker about looks then men and that average men have to stand out in some fashion to even attract a women in his own league because she will not initially be attracted Plus id rather my so have animal lust for my looks then having to find my smile or hands sexy to try to get her juices flowing so to speak It doesn't prove that at all. There are men that others consider to be "hot" that I don't see that way at all! Link to post Share on other sites
JuneJulySeptember Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 All that shows is that women are much picker about looks then men and that average men have to stand out in some fashion to even attract a women in his own league because she will not initially be attracted Plus id rather my so have animal lust for my looks then having to find my smile or hands sexy to try to get her juices flowing so to speak Yes, I agree. But I think more accurately a man may have to go through 10 or 15 women in his own league before he finds one that will give him a chance or that she fancies that one thing about him that she doesn't in the others even though they are for all intent equals. I think most average men would jump for the chance to date a woman in their league. Good looking guys are different. They have their pick. Keep in mind I'm talking about dating, not marriage. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
xxoo Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 All that shows is that women are much picker about looks then men and that average men have to stand out in some fashion to even attract a women in his own league because she will not initially be attracted Plus id rather my so have animal lust for my looks then having to find my smile or hands sexy to try to get her juices flowing so to speak Women can't change men, and men can't change women. If you want to be with a woman, you have to accept us how we are. Yes, we are pickier. There are biological reasons for that. Women's animal lust is not exactly the same as men's. That's the point. You have no idea how much my H's hands play into my animal lust..... 1 Link to post Share on other sites
PJKino Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 It doesn't prove that at all. There are men that others consider to be "hot" that I don't see that way at all! and men are the same way i have different tastes then a lot of my friends Theyres no evidence at all that men are much mroe shallow and visual then women 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Necris Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 Meaning im attracted to her physically and personality wise..I would rather be alone then be with somebody who im not that attracted to at all and cant imagine being intimate with.. While id love to be in a relationship im not desperate enough to go with almost anyone like some people are willing to.. I never understood that line of thinking with people who cant be alone and are willing to take almost anything.. So would you recommend raising my standards and only asking out women that I'm extremely attracted to? Link to post Share on other sites
JuneJulySeptember Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 Yes, we are pickier. There are biological reasons for that. Thus the birth of the frustrated and bitter man. Back in the prehistoric days, we'd just die off. Link to post Share on other sites
AD1980 Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 So would you recommend raising my standards and only asking out women that I'm extremely attracted to? I dont recommend anything you should do what works for you or that you feel comfortable doing.. Im speaking for myself that i have to find a girl at least somewhat cute..I refuse to look at a girl not be attracted but think well shes probably unattractive enough that she might say yes to me.. If that is what you want to do god bless..to each his own i just cant operate that way myself.. Link to post Share on other sites
xxoo Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 Thus the birth of the frustrated and bitter man. Back in the prehistoric days, we'd just die off. The fittest survived! You have the blood of winners coursing through your veins Link to post Share on other sites
Mrlonelyone Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 It's not an ego boost to reject men. When someone shows very strong interest in you and you reject him, it feels quite awful. Then when they keep messaging you asking for reasons why and telling you how depressed you made them, it's something I would rather do without. I'm pretty sure there are women who get off on teasing men in a sexual way that they have no intention of going further with. Such women are not getting their kicks out of the rejection, it's just part of the act. Just as there are some men who go from being pasty and puffy at one age to pumped and toned at another. Then they pump'n'dump woman after woman because now they can. It's sad that people do that but they do. Link to post Share on other sites
PJKino Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 Women can't change men, and men can't change women. If you want to be with a woman, you have to accept us how we are. Yes, we are pickier. There are biological reasons for that. Women's animal lust is not exactly the same as men's. That's the point. You have no idea how much my H's hands play into my animal lust..... When people start to blame things in dating on biology is where i tune out 1 Link to post Share on other sites
todreaminblue Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 When people start to blame things in dating on biology is where i tune out pheromones........zzzzzzzzzzzzz...sorry im talking to you....wake up Link to post Share on other sites
xxoo Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 When people start to blame things in dating on biology is where i tune out Why "blame"? Why not accept, understand, and work with women as they are? Link to post Share on other sites
somedude81 Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 SD, it's not matter of making women forget about your looks. I've seen a pic of you. You're a completely normal looking guy. We all know that perfectly normal isn't enough to get a woman interested. As from the photo, the problem is my height which is hard to tell from a picture. In other words, I might look pretty good in a picture, then see me in person and you'll realize how short I actually am. And please don't tell me that a woman looking at two normal looking dudes, one 5'10, the other 5'6, that she'd choose the short one. Without knowing much about either one and going by looks alone, 95% of the time she'd prefer the tall guy no matter what her height is. Basically, my looks are not a plus because I'm only normal, and my height is a minus. I'm also not in the best shape I can be so that's another minus. Even if I didn't have the negatives, that would only leave me at neutral and I'd still have to work at attracting women because my appearance wouldn't turn them on. I haven't seen a picture that I remember (feel free to pm me one if you want!). But a normal looking guy will be hot to his girlfriend because of the color of his eyes, or his smile, and his particular smell, and his hands, and all sorts of odd things that we women become attracted to when we are into a guy Her girlfriends will wonder what she sees. But she wonders what they see in their guys While that sounds great, how is the guy supposed to get a girl into him before she gets Boyfriend O' Visioned? It's still different. A man won't usually ask a woman out unless he feels some physical attraction. Women routinely go out with men to see if attraction develops. And often enough, it does within a couple dates. I really wish that happened for me. For once I'd like to be given a chance with a girl to see if her attraction for me develops. Link to post Share on other sites
PJKino Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 pheromones........zzzzzzzzzzzzz...sorry im talking to you....wake up 10 char Link to post Share on other sites
PJKino Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 Why "blame"? Why not accept, understand, and work with women as they are? Because its nonsense not all men want the same thing or do all women to just say well you cant help it your hardwired to want this or that Link to post Share on other sites
carhill Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 Women can't change men, and men can't change women. If you want to be with a woman, you have to accept us how we are. I think there's some real wisdom in this statement. OP, relevant to this statement, why not try another perspective: Accept that, no matter how many men they have rejected, a woman who feels nobody wants her, that's her truth. Your part of that is to not change yourself; be who you are and recognize that a woman with that perspective is not part of your universe, if you intrinsically disagree, and move on. No need for either of you to change. Her perspective is no more or less valid than your own. If it's a miss, it is. If that means you aren't with that woman, that's OK. Billions more to be served, and accepted. 5 Link to post Share on other sites
Lonely Ronin Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 It's sad that people do that but they do. Childish, is the word that comes to mind. Link to post Share on other sites
Necris Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 I dont recommend anything you should do what works for you or that you feel comfortable doing.. Im speaking for myself that i have to find a girl at least somewhat cute..I refuse to look at a girl not be attracted but think well shes probably unattractive enough that she might say yes to me.. If that is what you want to do god bless..to each his own i just cant operate that way myself.. Well its not that I have no attraction whatsoever, there maybe a small amount of attraction somewhere but yeah for me I try to get interest first worry about attraction later, though I do have my limits, unfortunately this hasn't worked at all, and I've been completely unsuccessful, as they reject me 100% of the time. Link to post Share on other sites
iris219 Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 We all know that perfectly normal isn't enough to get a woman interested. Of course it is. Link to post Share on other sites
somedude81 Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 Of course it is. Don't lie to me. How many times have you heard a woman say, "I want a guy who is normal?" Link to post Share on other sites
xxoo Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 Because its nonsense not all men want the same thing or do all women to just say well you cant help it your hardwired to want this or that I'm not saying all men or women want the same things. Of course not. But in a room of 100 men and 100 women, the average Jim and Bob are going to be sexually attracted to more women than the number of men the average Jane and Barb will be attracted to. And there is nothing wrong with Jim, Bob, Jane, or Barb. FWIW, women don't think it is a great thing that men are so widely attracted! Just different. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
iris219 Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 Don't lie to me. How many times have you heard a woman say, "I want a guy who is normal?" All the time. Who doesn't want a guy who is normal? Do you mean average? Average in looks is more than sufficient for most women, but most will want you to be above average in other ways. Link to post Share on other sites
xxoo Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 Don't lie to me. How many times have you heard a woman say, "I want a guy who is normal?" How many times have you heard, "I want a guy who makes me laugh!" SD, I've told you before, your humor can be extremely charming here. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Lonely Ronin Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 How many times have you heard a woman say, "I want a guy who is normal?" Depends what she means by normal. To some women, a decent personality, an average job, fun to be around, and in interest in her is normal, and all that it takes. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
somedude81 Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 All the time. Who doesn't want a guy who is normal? Do you mean average? Average in looks is more than sufficient for most women, but most will want you to be above average in other ways. Most women don't want average either. They want guys who are very intelligent, very funny, passionate, good looking etc. How many times have you heard, "I want a guy who makes me laugh!" SD, I've told you before, your humor can be extremely charming here. I wish my humor was enough. I know I can be a funny guy and make women laugh but it's just not good enough. Depends what she means by normal. To some women, a decent personality, an average job, fun to be around, and in interest in her is normal, and all that it takes. It's never been enough for somebody to like me. Link to post Share on other sites
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