Women who claim nobody wants them

[todreaminblue]

Don't lie to me.

 

How many times have you heard a woman say,

 

"I want a guy who is normal?"

 

 

I havent met normal yet swing him my way so i know what normal looks like.......deb

[PJKino]

I'm not saying all men or women want the same things. Of course not.

 

But in a room of 100 men and 100 women, the average Jim and Bob are going to be sexually attracted to more women than the number of men the average Jane and Barb will be attracted to. And there is nothing wrong with Jim, Bob, Jane, or Barb.

 

FWIW, women don't think it is a great thing that men are so widely attracted! Just different.

 

Women only settle when the hot guy doesnt approach so its hardly noble that women eventually do "settle" when a guy in her league has to stand out just to get her

[Lonely Ronin]

It's never been enough for somebody to like me.

 

You said you asked out like 3 women last year right? Being average is going to require more attempts than that to achieve success.

[ThaWholigan]

Most women don't want average either.

 

They want guys who are very intelligent, very funny, passionate, good looking etc.

 

 

I wish my humor was enough. I know I can be a funny guy and make women laugh but it's just not good enough.

 

 

It's never been enough for somebody to like me.

 

How many times do I have to say it.....you can BE ALL OF THOSE THINGS!! . You keep telling yourself you can't and "nothing's ever enough" - stop doing it. Start working towards these things and you won't have these problems or think the way you do.

[somedude81]

You said you asked out like 3 women last year right? Being average is going to require more attempts than that to achieve success.

I pretty much said that already

 

Lets see. Obviously no dates in 2012.

 

Though I did ask out three girls.

 

Ashley, Megan and Michele

Mexican, White, Asian.

 

I'll need to increase that this year by at least three times. I think I'll start by going to the the actual Salsa dance club more often and try to meet girls there as well as the ones I'll meet in School.

 

Last week I almost had a hangout that could have turned into a date but she "woke up with her mothers cold" the day we were going to meet up. Haven't talked to her since and now back home.

[Lonely Ronin]

I pretty much said that already

 

I wasn't sure, hence the question mark.

[xxoo]

Women only settle when the hot guy doesnt approach so its hardly noble that women eventually do "settle" when a guy in her league has to stand out just to get her

 

You are correct that only the "hot guy" is going to set her panties on fire based on looks alone.

 

But that's the point. There are other ways to set our panties on fire. And hot panties are hot panties. No settling necessary.

[Mrlonelyone]

@somedude81

 

I don't know what to say to you man. I'd really like to see a picture. I find it hard to believe that you are soooooo hideous that no woman anywhere, even drunk, would **** you.

 

Go to the club and dance with the various girls. Someone will want you.

[JuneJulySeptember]

You are correct that only the "hot guy" is going to set her panties on fire based on looks alone.

 

But that's the point. There are other ways to set our panties on fire. And hot panties are hot panties. No settling necessary.

 

He's saying that's unfair.

 

Because average women can be really hot to him. At least I think that's what he's saying. And I kind of agree.

 

Not only women need to be validated and made to be felt attractive. Men need it sometimes too,

[somedude81]

I wasn't sure, hence the question mark.

Got it, I didn't notice it.

[NoMoreJerks]

Depends what she means by normal. To some women, a decent personality, an average job, fun to be around, and in interest in her is normal, and all that it takes.

Yeah. Exactly. This does it for me.

 

I don't mind a guy who isn't "funny."As long as he's fun to be around. Doesn't have to have a sense of humour of astronomical proportions, as long as he doesn't scowl at every joke or funny remark..

[iris219]

You are correct that only the "hot guy" is going to set her panties on fire based on looks alone.

 

But that's the point. There are other ways to set our panties on fire. And hot panties are hot panties. No settling necessary.

 

I assume the quotation marks are around hot guy for a reason.

 

One woman's hot guy is another's average joe. When I first saw my ex from across a room I thought he was the most gorgeous man I had ever seen. I pointed him out to my friend and she was like, "Meh, he's alright, I guess." She was not impressed, while I wanted to marry him that second.

[NoMoreJerks]

Women only settle when the hot guy doesnt approach so its hardly noble that women eventually do "settle" when a guy in her league has to stand out just to get her

I have never settled for anyone other than those I was genuinely interested in. Those men were not drop-dead gorgeous in general (the women weren't throwing themselves at them , that's for sure), but to me they were cute/hot, and seemed interesting enough to engage in a conversation with them.

[ThaWholigan]

I assume the quotation marks are around hot guy for a reason.

 

One woman's hot guy is another's average joe. When I first saw my ex from across a room I thought he was the most gorgeous man I had ever seen. I pointed him out to my friend and she was like, "Meh, he's alright, I guess." She was not impressed, while I wanted to marry him that second.

Precisely. I've met women who think I'm butt ugly, and women who think I'm incredibly gorgeous - all of varying levels of attractiveness at least in my eyes. I've inadvertently missed opportunities to date some really good looking women because I thought so low of my appearance that I didn't see that they obviously thought of it a lot higher than I did.

 

Guys may want to start thinking about how they can augment the way they look because they never know who their admirers could be.

[somedude81]

@somedude81

 

I don't know what to say to you man. I'd really like to see a picture. I find it hard to believe that you are soooooo hideous that no woman anywhere, even drunk, would **** you.

 

Go to the club and dance with the various girls. Someone will want you.

I've never claimed to be hideous. I know I'm far from it. What I'm not is panty setting on fire hot.

 

When it comes to women, they seem to only see men as a 1,2 or 3. Ugly, normal, hot. If a guy is a 2, his looks are not important. They don't hurt or help him. The vast majority of men are 2's, including myself.

 

BTW, I've been to a few clubs, house, party/rave, salsa. Nobody wanted me.

[xxoo]

He's saying that's unfair.

 

Because average women can be really hot to him. At least I think that's what he's saying. And I kind of agree.

 

Not only women need to be validated and made to be felt attractive. Men need it sometimes too,

 

My man is hot as heck to me!

 

But no, that wasn't my first impression when I met him. I don't believe he has any doubts about my attraction at this point

[Necris]

@somedude81

 

I don't know what to say to you man. I'd really like to see a picture. I find it hard to believe that you are soooooo hideous that no woman anywhere, even drunk, would **** you.

 

Go to the club and dance with the various girls. Someone will want you.

 

I don't know about your experiences but I highly, highly, highly doubt that, unless somedude is charismatic, good looking, or just unusually lucky it's doubtful women will be interested at all, especially a cold approach. Only certain men can pull off a cold approach.

[ThaWholigan]

I don't know about your experiences but I highly, highly, highly doubt that, unless somedude is charismatic, good looking, or just unusually lucky it's doubtful women will be interested at all, especially a cold approach. Only certain men can pull off a cold approach.

Yeah, and they get good at it by practicing and improving.

[Mrlonelyone]

I don't know about your experiences but I highly, highly, highly doubt that, unless somedude is charismatic, good looking, or just unusually lucky it's doubtful women will be interested at all, especially a cold approach. Only certain men can pull off a cold approach.

 

Asking a woman out after dancing with her at a club (At least asking her to be at the same club or a similar club next weekend) isn't a "cold" approach.

 

A "cold" approach is asking out the woman ahead of you in line at a Starbucks that you go to once in a blue moon.

[JuneJulySeptember]

My man is hot as heck to me!

 

But no, that wasn't my first impression when I met him. I don't believe he has any doubts about my attraction at this point

 

I think it would be nice if average (and even below average) guys could be told that women thought they were hot off the bat.

 

It happens for average women all the time.

 

I don't think it happens too often for average men. That's one of the reasons you have so many guys in here thinking they're unattractive.

Edited January 4, 2013 by JuneJulySeptember

[Necris]

Yeah, and they get good at it by practicing and improving.

 

Unfortunately its extremely difficult to practice on something that has no right answers, no correct methods, no formulas, you are just dependent on another's approval.

 

Though there is PUA which claims to have proven methods that can be used to increase your chances. Going to the gym could help, but it hasn't helped me, though I don't work out for girls I workout for me. You could take courses on human psychology and speaking but that's doubtful to help as well, while other guys take no courses, need no books, they just somehow already have it, which makes me think some people may not be meant for this stuff.

[xxoo]

I think it would be nice if average (and even below average) guys could be told that women thought they were hot off the bat.

 

It happens for average women all the time.

 

I don't think it happens too often for average men. That's one of the reasons you have so many guys in here thinking they're unattractive.

 

And it would be nice if average women could be told by their husbands (truthfully) that they are the only woman that they ever fantasize about.

 

But then there is reality, which really isn't that awful if you can understand that we are different.

[ThaWholigan]

Unfortunately its extremely difficult to practice on something that has no right answers, no correct methods, no formulas, you are just dependent on another's approval.

 

Though there is PUA which claims to have proven methods that can be used to increase your chances. Going to the gym could help, but it hasn't helped me, though I don't work out for girls I workout for me. You could take courses on human psychology and speaking but that's doubtful to help as well, while other guys take no courses, need no books, they just somehow already have it, which makes me think some people may not be meant for this stuff.

Whatever you say man, it's your life.

[sagetalk]

After she rejected 25 average guys in row.

 

25 is a tough age for an average guy. The alpha, player, cheater, boastful, arrogant types are gonna kick your butt in that age range unless the girl is remarkably intelligent.

 

The important thing to remember is to not let bitterness in your heart because of it. They are free to choose whomever they wish, even if the guy will cheat on them and dump them. After 25, things start getting much brighter. Get a career you enjoy, a good college education for as cheap as possible, and workout as much as you can. Focus on what you like about women, not what you dislike about them.

[JuneJulySeptember]

25 is a tough age for an average guy. The alpha, player, cheater, boastful, arrogant types are gonna kick your butt in that age range unless the girl is remarkably intelligent.

 

The important thing to remember is to not let bitterness in your heart because of it. They are free to choose whomever they wish, even if the guy will cheat on them and dump them. After 25, things start getting much brighter. Get a career you enjoy, a good college education for as cheap as possible, and workout as much as you can. Focus on what you like about women, not what you dislike about them.

 

Maybe more like after 40.