Women who claim nobody wants them

[Necris]

Whatever you say man, it's your life.

 

I'm just confused on what you mean by practice on it?

 

Seriously how can you practice on making women attracted to you?

 

Sure you can hit the gym (though if I get incredibly ripped it may help), wear nicer clothes, train yourself to be more comfortable around women, etc. But that still doesn't seem to help, at least for me, women just aren't interested.

 

And its not like practicing for a test or a game where the more you do it the better you get at it as I learn basically nothing from rejections, though I'd probably learn more if I wasn't rejected so early.

 

I'm either missing something vital or it just wasn't meant to be.

[JuneJulySeptember]

I'm just confused on what you mean by practice on it?

 

Seriously how can you practice on making women attracted to you?

 

Sure you can hit the gym (though if I get incredibly ripped it may help), wear nicer clothes, train yourself to be more comfortable around women, etc. But that still doesn't seem to help, at least for me, women just aren't interested.

 

And its not like practicing for a test or a game where the more you do it the better you get at it as I learn basically nothing from rejections, though I'd probably learn more if I wasn't rejected so early.

 

I'm either missing something vital or it just wasn't meant to be.

 

When I was like 31, I had just gotten out of a longer term relationship (for me) and I thought to myself "Man, I'm free. And my game is so much better now. It's going to be a field day."

 

Through a 3 year period after that, I probably took the most rejections I had ever sustained. Some of them were brutal. I got no women in that period.

 

We can't really change our looks (unless you're obese or dress horribly). Even a ridiculous body which would take years to accomplish and really nice clothes will only help you marginally. And although I think we can change our personalities, your base personality is really who you are. So, it's hard to do that. And those are really the two factors to attraction.

 

What you can change is aggressiveness and volume. I guess the more women you approach, and the more women you ask out, the more chance of success you will have.

Edited January 4, 2013 by JuneJulySeptember

[ChessPieceFace]

emotional tmapon

 

Emotional Tampon. That would be a fantastic username.

[todreaminblue]

After she rejected 25 average guys in row.

 

The only men that count are the top 20% looks wise. Rest doesn't exist.

 

Hypergamy at its finest. Women have endless options. Lowest of the low women can get attention online.

 

The average male is the equal to 4'10, retarded, one legged, fish faced, wheelchaird unemployed woman.

 

 

you cant lump women into one sack and claim thats it...just like men cant be lumped into one sack and be done with, categorised and segregated.......we are people with different perceptions of what is beautiful what is handsome what is good what is bad......thank god above he gave us the will and mind to have free agency or we would be stuck going by what status quo is like lemming clones....stuff the status quo buddy, stuff living by the status quo too stuff everything..... and others perceptions are their own not mine..you have your own mind you know what you like and dont like.....why cant others too...believe me they do....and it isnt all about looks money and sexual prowess most of those things can be borrowed taught or gotten ......you are who you are accept it and other people will too and if they dont....stuff them they are missing out big time...thats how i feel ...lol....and i have major issues to contend with ...hasn't stopped me from having dates....when i was younger....and i am not beautiful but guys do show interest still...just not all guys and i am more than fine with that......i only want one......not seven thousand and 22, one is enough....and there are more than that in the world....everybody has their own mind on what they consider to be good looking...just like you do ........deb

[youdunsay]

Excuse me.

 

I don't have small breasted women over 30 hitting on me. Do you really think a woman would be easier to attract if she has small breasts? That's asinine.

 

The only female interest I've gotten, and I'm just guessing it was interest, was from women who were about 50lbs heavier than me. A 5'4, 200lb woman isn't a little chubby.

 

I have pursued plain Jane and a few chubby girls. They weren't interested.

 

 

If she's a plain Jane, average looking, small breasts and cannot offer her body until marriage, will you ever consider pursuing her?

[spooky48]

Not a lot?!

 

I would be ecstatic if I had 20 women interested in me in the past 9 years. Sure I probably wouldn't want to date all of them, but at least three or four would be dateable.

 

If everything was so great then, why am I still single since 2004?!

 

If all of you want a list of sites I've been on, let me know.

If you want the list of the 54 groups I'm currently involved with on meetup.com I'll let you all know that too.

 

I had 2 life coaches I hired & fired but, they just didn't help.

 

Bottom line....I'm not choosy nor am I desperate but, it would be nice to exactly find out what I am doing so wrong or why I'm horrific since 2004.

Enough said b/c I feel self-deprecating now & I really don't want to feel this way.

 

Cheers.

[somedude81]

If everything was so great then, why am I still single since 2004?!

Because you rejected those men!

 

Unless I'm mistaken, it's not possible to get into a relationship when you turn everyone down who was interested.

 

Yes you are choosy.

 

If she's a plain Jane, average looking, small breasts and cannot offer her body until marriage, will you ever consider pursuing her?

Read my post again for the answer.

[spooky48]

Because you rejected those men!

 

Unless I'm mistaken, it's not possible to get into a relationship when you turn everyone down who was interested.

 

Yes you are choosy.

 

 

Read my post again for the answer.

 

Sorry but, you don't know me personally and therefore, can't really judge but, no I am not.

[somedude81]

Sorry but, you don't know me personally and therefore, can't really judge but, no I am not.

So all 20 men that expressed an interest in your were ugly or were un/underemployed? All lacking in moral character etc?

 

I'm also guessing that the number was actually much higher than 20.

 

For a frame of reference, I've only had four women expresses a clear interest in me my entire 31 years of life.

[spooky48]

So all 20 men that expressed an interest in your were ugly or were un/underemployed? All lacking in moral character etc?

 

I'm also guessing that the number was actually much higher than 20.

 

For a frame of reference, I've only had four women expresses a clear interest in me my entire 31 years of life.

 

Hi,

Bottom line, for me personally I've been this way now since 2004. It's pathetic & disgusting yet, I've paid money & spent time & energy for nothing. I'm so done but, I still try to be positive & have some light of hope. Period.

 

For your situation though, I can't believe it, I mean, really?

If that's the case, I am sorry for you but, maybe you could go out more, join groups, volunteer and try more sites that are reputable.

 

Good luck & here's hoping you find the one you've been waiting for. Cheers.

[Radu]

After she rejected 25 average guys in row.

 

The only men that count are the top 20% looks wise. Rest doesn't exist.

 

Hypergamy at its finest. Women have endless options. Lowest of the low women can get attention online.

 

The average male is the equal to 4'10, retarded, one legged, fish faced, wheelchaird unemployed woman.

 

If a woman claims that 'nobody wants her', you should keep your guard up 100% around her.

This is what is used for baiting white idiot knights who want to 'protect' her.

[somedude81]

A "Normal" Guy

Very interest.

 

What a man thinks a normal guy is

 

 

• A few pounds overweight
  
• Basically genial and seeks to be nice to everyone
  
• Takes his turn when picking up the tab or giving people rides
  
• Not a ladder-climber but a good enough worker to be a team contributor and not make any office enemies
  
• Decent but unremarkable fashion sense
  
• Unceasingly well-intentioned but predictably ham-fisted in his efforts with women; gets lucky on occasion in the true sense of the word
  
• You’d have him over to drink a few beers and watch the game
  

What a woman thinks a normal guy is

 

 

• Is working hard at advancement (“ambition”) in a job that is either high-status (law, management, banking) or “interesting” (musician, media, non-profts, politics)
  
• Can show group dominance, i.e. “work a room” and do a bunch of glad-handing but not a compulsively dominant guy who will pick fights or make trouble
  
• Can flash dominance to her (e.g. pass fitness tests, avoid fitting into her frame)
  
• Tidy and fashionable, but not so much that he’s gay or OCD
  
• Aesthetically pleasing: shows strong physique, fitness and/or fashion sense
  
• Fits into feminine imperatives: holds relationship/marriage/kids as long-term life goals, but doesn’t seek to serve a woman
  
• Has good timing of beta traits so the other girls will say “awwww, I wish MY boyfriend would do that for ME!”
  

If a woman claims that 'nobody wants her', you should keep your guard up 100% around her.

This is what is used for baiting white idiot knights who want to 'protect' her.

Or wandering samurai...

[Mme. Chaucer]

When someone says they want a "normal guy," she mens a normal guy to whom SHE IS ATTRACTED. Not just any random "normal guy." What is so outrageous about that?

 

SD's list is not indicative of what most women are going to respond to. Maybe one or two things on it, and maybe not. But the whole list is mostly just a lot of PUA mumbo-jumbo that means little, anyway.

 

It's very individual.

[Aedra]

Very interest.

 

• Is working hard at advancement (“ambition”) in a job that is either high-status (law, management, banking) or “interesting” (musician, media, non-profts, politics)
  
• Can show group dominance, i.e. “work a room” and do a bunch of glad-handing but not a compulsively dominant guy who will pick fights or make trouble
  
• Can flash dominance to her (e.g. pass fitness tests, avoid fitting into her frame)
  
• Tidy and fashionable, but not so much that he’s gay or OCD
  
• Aesthetically pleasing: shows strong physique, fitness and/or fashion sense
  
• Fits into feminine imperatives: holds relationship/marriage/kids as long-term life goals, but doesn’t seek to serve a woman
  
• Has good timing of beta traits so the other girls will say “awwww, I wish MY boyfriend would do that for ME!”
  

 

 

That list is more like the most ideal man ever aka Hugh Jackman, not average joe. I'd say average joe to a typical woman - has a decent job, has a sense of humor and shares similar interests.

Edited January 8, 2013 by Aedra

[Kupo]

After she rejected 25 average guys in row.

 

The only men that count are the top 20% looks wise. Rest doesn't exist.

 

Hypergamy at its finest. Women have endless options. Lowest of the low women can get attention online.

 

The average male is the equal to 4'10, retarded, one legged, fish faced, wheelchaird unemployed woman.

 

25 average guys sounds like a buffet to me.

 

I've seen the same behavior from men who say that women completely ignore them, and then complain about women below their standards approaching them. It's just a weird thing with words.

[oohlala]

You are neglecting a huge pillar of attraction... personality

 

I've always been amazed at how many men with online dating miss this point completely. They always blame it on "I'm too nice, women don't like nice men," or something. Ugh, I like nice. Why would I want to date someone who isn't nice to me?? But if your profile and your chats with me indicate you're just looking for a life partner in general and any warm willing body will do you're not giving me a lot to actually be attracted to. "I'm too nice" and so forth is a copout. I wouldn't say all my relationships happened because they were on the top end of looks by any stretch of the imagination. Personality first. I won't even go out with a crazy handsome fella if he has absolutely nothing interesting to talk about.