Consolidated 'looks' discussion and society's standards of beauty for men vs women

[Feelin Frisky]

It is assumed that the guy of the girl in these analogies are assumed to be otherwise attractive. Wen when someone says personality it important, physical appeal is assumed. That's pop culture society. I there were no media which gave incorrect messages that beauty is the rule and homeliness the exception priorities might be a little different. Interview some practicing Amish folk and ask them what the look for in a partner. The cornerstone of their life style is "plain-ness". In a mixed company Amish setting they'd likely fear being "shunned"--which is serious business--if the guys answer the question about female attributes they value most as big blue eyes, perky tits and no cellulite. They're far more likely to say that they want a wife who "beats them to cow utters every day and makes great biscuits While thinking firm tits, and face like she can suck the chrome off a trailer hitch."

[KungFuJoe]

Attraction is many things. Not only very handsome men get laid. Trust me. I've fhucked some "ugly" guys because I liked them.

 

Pretty much I notice tall guys. And I am a size queen so I need that big dick. Hardly any gorgeous guys have big dicks. Why? Dunno. I'll take the ugly hung guy anyday.

 

Hey, I'M a gorgeous guy and...wait a sec. *looks down*

 

Crap. You're right.

[TheZebra]

OP, girls don't like you because you're negative.

 

Quote of the year.

 

If you even sound like just 1% of the stuff you spew on here, no girl will ever be with you. From what you've posted in the past you say you're not attractive, so why the heck would a girl ever date an ugly guy with an ugly personality? I can easily overlook poor looks for a great personality, but a guy who's ugly on the inside AND outside? Not even drunk.

[fortyninethousand322]

Yeah men have been lied to since birth. So have women. We've all been told lies for most of our lives: "the government does what the people want", "the police are your friends", "politicians are honest people just like you", "sitting too close to the TV will make you blind", "eating bacon everyday is bad for your health", etc.

 

Just deal with it I guess. Is it sad? Yeah, but not surprising.

[xxoo]

Necro, what kind of male role models did you have growing up? Do you have any friends or family members who are successful in dating?

[tomhomme13]

Welcome to reality. Good looking guys get the girls. Ugly ones don't. Move along, nothing to see here.

[Necris]

Necro, what kind of male role models did you have growing up? Do you have any friends or family members who are successful in dating?

 

I doubt that would have helped him much.

 

Take me for example my father is the opposite of me he's very outgoing, makes friends and connections easily, wild seeing as how he's an older guy and into MMA fighting and illegal street racing (actually races and builds motorcycles), and apparently he's quite attractive seeing as how random women love hitting on him. From what I've heard about his younger years he was also a college athlete, and getting women came naturally to him. So he's a pretty cool definitely Alpha kind of guy, while I'm not like him at all in personality I'm the nerdy introverted guy, though I do share some of his intellectual gifts and we do have similar interests in science.

[JuneJulySeptember]

I always thought that if a girl likes your personality then she will secretly fall for you after hanging around for quite a time. This is just a chick flick and almost never happens.

 

In a new thread about female attraction here few said that if they don't find you really good looking you never had a chance. Sub 7 males are invisible to women. Yet women here say that it's you personality that matters (lol).

 

Make a online dating profile send the same message from two different profiles.

 

MM=DTF instantly.

Average guy=**** you creeper.

 

Good looking guy will have alot of female attention, if you claim to be good looking and get no attention you are clearly not as good looking as you say and might post fake model pic.

 

Media. Movies. TV.

 

Of course, media is going to portray that the cute girl ends up with the nice guy/Mr. Personality/not-great looking guy.

 

It'd make for pretty boring movies if it was 100 minutes of "Hey. I like your face. Let's go get married."

[Play]

I always thought that if a girl likes your personality then she will secretly fall for you after hanging around for quite a time. This is just a chick flick and almost never happens.

 

In a new thread about female attraction here few said that if they don't find you really good looking you never had a chance. Sub 7 males are invisible to women. Yet women here say that it's you personality that matters (lol).

 

Make a online dating profile send the same message from two different profiles.

 

MM=DTF instantly.

Average guy=**** you creeper.

 

Good looking guy will have alot of female attention, if you claim to be good looking and get no attention you are clearly not as good looking as you say and might post fake model pic.

 

You are completely wrong. Fact you make a thread about attraction conveys to me, at least, you have comparatively little personal experience.

 

Dating websites are of course largely about looks. That's how it works.

 

Offline, in terms of a numbers game, personality in terms of confidence, sense of humor is most important (and how often men approach). Stats wise most people end up with members of the opposite sex within 2 points of themselves.

 

Sure if a guy is a 5, he's probably not going to end up with a 9, but a 7 is perfectly possible. Also looks are easily improvable. If you're overweight, workout. Dress better. Buy nice clothes which fit.

[Mme. Chaucer]

I was lied to since birth about Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy. I'm still devastated.

[Astra5]

I will admit that I like a good looking man... but if his personality is Sh*T.... then whats the point??? I would take a guy lower on the looks scale who is sweet kind and can rock my world then one who is a bonafide prick who acts like he is all that and a bag of chips and cant keep it up long enough to get a girl off....

 

So in other words... looks are NOT the end all be all of everything.. they help sometimes... but a good guy will always win over the conceited full of himself waste of space!!

 

You sound like a very negative person who has no self esteem..... not surprised u cant get what u want...

[fortyninethousand322]

I was lied to since birth about Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy. I'm still devastated.

 

You mean your parents told you they didn't exist?

[JuneJulySeptember]

OK. Basically the overwhelming philosophy of the world is "Find someone you are physically attracted to. Nothing else will do."

 

Detach yourself for a moment from the conventions of the world.

 

In the grand scheme of things, do you all realize how silly that idea is? Our looks (save weight/body shape) are just the way we are born. The pigment of our skin, the length at which our bones fused together when they stopped growing, the way our skin shaped around our facial structure. These things have absolutely nothing to do with compatibility or what kind of people we are.

 

Yet, it is by far the dominant driving force in who we DO NOT decide to spend the rest of our lives with.

 

This is more of a philosophical rant. NOT designed to bring out arguments on how 'only ugly people think looks don't matter because they can't do any better.'

 

That's just the way things are, right?

 

What if as people we all just said, "Well, gays, black, Asians, women, they have less civil rights. Well, that's just the way things are."

[pbjbear]

Are you a guy?

 

 

Guys focus on looks more than women do, on average. So unless youre one of the exceptions to this, you are a huge hypocrite.

 

Women are shallow too, but not as much with looks...and well, since this thread is about LOOKS..

 

Every guy I have met that said looks dont matter continually strives to get the hottest girl or the hottest girl he could possibly attain *facepalm*.

[Keenly]

The feeling of attraction to the physical aspects of some one is your subconscious analyzing and determining this person is prime mating genetic material. You know that's why we have physical attraction right?

[superb]

In a perfect world we'd be loved for our minds. It's not going to happen, its a combination of many things.

[JuneJulySeptember]

The feeling of attraction to the physical aspects of some one is your subconscious analyzing and determining this person is prime mating genetic material. You know that's why we have physical attraction right?

 

In a metaphysical sense, you are content with being a slave to your animal instincts and the pre-concieved notions of social beauty?

[JuneJulySeptember]

In a perfect world we'd be loved for our minds. It's not going to happen, its a combination of many things.

 

And people realize that they can do something to contribute to making this world a better place, but they choose not to because why?

[Keenly]

In a metaphysical sense, you are content with being a slave to your animal instincts and the pre-concieved notions of social beauty?

 

By your a logic, I'm a slave to money because I occasionally like to buy candy. It doesn't run my life, its merely a part of it.

[ThaWholigan]

What you're asking is whether it is possible to bypass what is a major component to a lot of people's sexual attraction. And it does happen - but when it does, it usually does not end in happiness.

[superb]

And people realize that they can do something to contribute to making this world a better place, but they choose not to because why?

 

Probably because at the end of the day people feel their happiness is what matters most of all. Selfish world. Not saying it's right but it's how it is.

 

 

People should have standards and should stay true to what they believe they want. It's an individual choice to be happy and no one can say what makes one persons happiness is wrong. *Freedom*

[JuneJulySeptember]

By your a logic, I'm a slave to money because I occasionally like to buy candy. It doesn't run my life, its merely a part of it.

 

I didn't mean YOU.

 

As people who have the capability and brilliance to far exceed the limits nature intended, such as creating devices where you can post on internet message boards while riding on the bus, we can be capable of freeing ourselves either partially or completely from the holds and limits society places on us.

 

If we wanted to. Notice I said WE not YOU. And I do believe it would make the world a better place.

[TheGuard13]

I don't think it's silly to be attracted to one thing or another. I DO think its silly to judge people FOR being born a certain way.

 

Yeah, lets make fun of that ugly girl/guy...because they chose that, right?

 

That's the kind of thing I find silly (sad).

 

Also that, in this looks-centric, supposedly monogamous-based culture, looks start to decrease after about what, half our expected lifetime, and yet they're still SO important when people are seeking a long term relationship?

[JuneJulySeptember]

What you're asking is whether it is possible to bypass what is a major component to a lot of people's sexual attraction. And it does happen - but when it does, it usually does not end in happiness.

 

So, say you met a woman and you got along famously. One in a thousand click. You'd be OK with her not wanting to date you because she's not attracted to black men?

 

I just think that's so silly.

 

Yet, people live religiously by what they are physically attracted to.

[Samilia]

In a metaphysical sense, you are content with being a slave to your animal instincts and the pre-concieved notions of social beauty?

 

I didn't know animals had a notion of social beauty, whatever that means.