dreamingoftigers Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 tell anyone who thinks otherwise to eat a dick and die. You HAVE TO use those EXACT words Because you can't just die without eating the dick first And you can't just eat a dick and, God forbid, NOT DIE! Link to post Share on other sites
KungFuJoe Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Right...because it's SO common for women to reject guys who are virgins? Holy crap how is it that men are losing their virginity? Are they ALL lying or are they only sleeping with virgin women? I'm not saying that men aren't lying due to social stigma. I'm saying that men lying DUE to social stigma is stupid and useless. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
MrCastle Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Right...because it's SO common for women to reject guys who are virgins? Holy crap how is it that men are losing their virginity? Are they ALL lying or are they only sleeping with virgin women? I'm not saying that men aren't lying due to social stigma. I'm saying that men lying DUE to social stigma is stupid and useless. Most people are losing their virginity in mid-late teens. So those people are fine. once you enter 20s, people tend to step back like whoa, how hasn't it happened for you yet. People that are not late bloomers can't empathize because in their world, it was easy getting laid. Link to post Share on other sites
KungFuJoe Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 His lie got him his first sexual relationship which he wouldn't have otherwise had. It isn't as simple as it doing him no good. It did some good. Her contemplating preemptively breaking up with him is some of the bad. Some of the good it could cause is her stress will encourage her to prove herself to him so he will keep her. How do you know his lie got him his first sexual relationship? Op said nothing about not having slept with him if he was a virgin. Link to post Share on other sites
KungFuJoe Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Most people are losing their virginity in mid-late teens. So those people are fine. once you enter 20s, people tend to step back like whoa, how hasn't it happened for you yet. People that are not late bloomers can't empathize because in their world, it was easy getting laid. We're looking at it from two different angles. You're looking at it from "this guy just wants to get laid". I'm looking at it from, "Don't be a ****ing tool". 1 Link to post Share on other sites
ThaWholigan Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 We would have to ask the OP if she would have had sex with the man if he admitted he was a virgin before they had sex. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
dreamingoftigers Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Jeepers, if I get divorced, I'm going to lose weight and go on a loveshack de-virgining tour. Three reasons: 1. I can't believe there is any left and it's fun to do. 2. I won't care because I'll be messed up from the divorce. 3. I'm sick of hearing the bitching on here. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
MrCastle Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 We're looking at it from two different angles. You're looking at it from "this guy just wants to get laid". I'm looking at it from, "Don't be a ****ing tool". Yeah but if "being a ****ing tool" will help get the guy laid, it is what it is. How many threads have we seen where a woman says "bf has slept with too many people, should i keep seeing him?"--not many It's mostly threads like this one. Link to post Share on other sites
suladas Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Right...because it's SO common for women to reject guys who are virgins? Holy crap how is it that men are losing their virginity? Are they ALL lying or are they only sleeping with virgin women? I'm not saying that men aren't lying due to social stigma. I'm saying that men lying DUE to social stigma is stupid and useless. Yep I didn't lie I just didn't say anything until a few weeks after having sex. She couldn't of cared less, didn't see the big deal about it at all. In fact she said after finding out she wanted to do more dirty things with me 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Ninjainpajamas Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 The biggest flag is she is 33 year old woman dating a 25 year old...considering most women perceive themselves as "mature" (regardless of actual maturity level) and like to date older men, however on the other hand women who date younger men from what I've seen tend to do it for a sense of control and tend to have large insecurities within themselves. I think this in a way has thwarted that security, because now she has justified another reason why she is no longer in control and has a reason to panic...likely something experienced in her past relationships as in infidelity/cheating. IMO the guy is too young for you and most importantly inexperienced, I think he'll gain from dating an older woman but for the older woman there isn't a lot in it for you unless you're wise enough to just see it as a bit of fun. Men in their mid 20's are still getting a footing with who they are, just starting to come into that man-hood phase of their lives and developing as men IMO. You've likely had your ups and downs already, your rollercoaster in love which is why I think a woman at 33 would date a 25 year old, regardless of whether it "just happened" or you knew him well first for a while or whatever the story is. I think considering he lost his virginity to you is more of a sign of his inexperience with women, his lack of long-term relationship experience and knowledge...that makes him unpredictable, because a young man doesn't know what wants as it, not to mention inexperience...hell, men twice his age don't know what they want still, and he's yet to have experienced that. Therefore he will wonder what other pu$$y feels like at some point and what it's like to be with someone else in the future IMO. I see the same situation with women...older guy marries younger woman due to her youth and gullibility, her faith and belief in that enduring love and her lack of inexperience makes her ignore all flags...then down the road she realizes she's not really in love with the man, isn't all that happy and wonders what she's missed out on in life...what experiences she didn't have, because older men who date much younger women tend to be more controlling, you're a baby maker/clinger due to your youth, but eventually women get over that and start to realize who the guy is that they actually married...sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad, but without experience in life, it will lead you to question a lot of things whether man or woman. I think there is much more to this situation obviously, but based on what is mentioned I think that's just apart of it, and I don't perceive this relationship lasting very long, few years at best If I had to take a guess, but likely this will give him a confidence boost and grass is greener mentality, and he'll wander. All men have a wandering eye, just some men know what they want more...if it's you then you're the right girl for him. But that typically takes a lot of time and experience for men, because they'll cheat otherwise at some point almost guaranteed...depends on morals and values of a man, if he is religious then he may force himself to ignore his devilish primal desires. Link to post Share on other sites
MrCastle Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 We would have to ask the OP if she would have had sex with the man if he admitted he was a virgin before they had sex. She's questioning their relationship just from hearing that he was a virgin before sleeping with her. Link to post Share on other sites
KungFuJoe Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Yeah but if "being a ****ing tool" will help get the guy laid, it is what it is. How many threads have we seen where a woman says "bf has slept with too many people, should i keep seeing him?"--not many It's mostly threads like this one. Either scenario is pretty rare. How many threads do we get about women concerned about the fact their bf was a virgin? This is the first one I've seen. Anyways...I think this topic is getting overly complicated. Just don't lie. It's that simple. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Mrlonelyone Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Ah yes, another group of straight people who for whatever reason fall under the heading sexual minority. Males who did not loose it by say 22 are judged in the ways shown in the OP all the time. OP, he's only going to leave you if you aren't right for him. It may be the fact that you'd judge him for being a virgin at 25 means your not right for him? Either get over this and treat him right or just end it because you can't deal with the fact he's a virgin and all the stereotypes around men who value their virginity. Have you noticed how opposed many male posters who are incel here are to casual sex or seeing a prostitute? They often just wanted to save it for a woman they cared about. Congratulations he cared about you, you had him. Bravo. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
MrCastle Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Either scenario is pretty rare. How many threads do we get about women concerned about the fact their bf was a virgin? This is the first one I've seen. I've been here a little longer, this is fairly common place. I've seen it more on PUA forums where guys have talked about almost closing the deal until they reveal that they're virgins and the dynamics of their relationships change. The girl usually makes up some phony excuse as to why they can't see each other anymore. Link to post Share on other sites
KungFuJoe Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 I don't give a **** about PUA. It's one of the dumbest things I've ever heard of in my life. I never even knew what that was until I came here and I feel like my IQ dropped 20 points just from knowing what it is. Guys who need PUA or just want to get laid...obviously the "not lying" doesn't apply to them. They're going to do whatever it takes to get a woman in bed. But if you're looking for something serious and long term and HONEST, that lie is going to come back and bite you in the ass. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
suladas Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Most people are losing their virginity in mid-late teens. So those people are fine. once you enter 20s, people tend to step back like whoa, how hasn't it happened for you yet. People that are not late bloomers can't empathize because in their world, it was easy getting laid. A lot of guys who are virgins into their 20's are by choice, because they don't want to loose it to some random girl. And many who loose it early still have trouble getting laid and can go years without it happening again. Loosing it at a certain age means nothing. Link to post Share on other sites
MrCastle Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 I don't give a **** about PUA. It's one of the dumbest things I've ever heard of in my life. I never even knew what that was until I came here and I feel like my IQ dropped 20 points just from knowing what it is. Guys who need PUA or just want to get laid...obviously the "not lying" doesn't apply to them. They're going to do whatever it takes to get a woman in bed. But if you're looking for something serious and long term and HONEST, that lie is going to come back and bite you in the ass. Got a little chicken and egg thing going on. Those men lied because they tried being honest and it didn't work for them. PUA is a male response to female dynamics. Link to post Share on other sites
KungFuJoe Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Got a little chicken and egg thing going on. Those men lied because they tried being honest and it didn't work for them. PUA is a male response to female dynamics. But it doesn't make it right. If I go out with a bunch of bitches, I don't start becoming an *******. I just stop dating bitches. Link to post Share on other sites
somedude81 Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Ha, don't tell a girl your a virgin. Don't tell a girl that you've been with a hooker. What other dating/sex related things should a man keep to himself? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
MrCastle Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 But it doesn't make it right. If I go out with a bunch of bitches, I don't start becoming an *******. I just stop dating bitches. It is what it is man. I'm not gonna blame a guy who's a 25 year old virgin for feeling self conscious about it and wanting to lie. He's suffered enough. Like we talked about in the other thread, once he feels comfortable enough with her, he can tell her in confidence, after the fact. Link to post Share on other sites
dreamingoftigers Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Ha, don't tell a girl your a virgin. Don't tell a girl that you've been with a hooker. What other dating/sex related things should a man keep to himself? His dick unless he can find a partner whom he shares somewhat equal footing with / respects him for what he is / he can be respectable. This isn't rocket science. Link to post Share on other sites
KungFuJoe Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 It is what it is man. I'm not gonna blame a guy who's a 25 year old virgin for feeling self conscious about it and wanting to lie. He's suffered enough. Like we talked about in the other thread, once he feels comfortable enough with her, he can tell her in confidence, after the fact. I'm definitely not blaming him. Hell...I did the same thing when I was 18 (though I just said I had a gf before, not sex). So I totally understand where he's coming from. I'm just saying it was pointless. MY lie was pointless. HIS lie was pointless. Just trying to spare anyone who might be reading this thread thinking, "oh crap, I'm gonna hafta to lie about being a virgin". No...you don't have to lie about being a virgin. You don't have to lie, period. Link to post Share on other sites
FitChick Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 some times when I read the title of this thread I miss read it. I read to say "I just found out I'm a 25 year old virgin." I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to read that on this forum. Link to post Share on other sites
PJKino Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Please weve seen pletny of threads here of women saying they wouldnt want to be with a virgin because of lack of pleasuring her in the bedroom and they said more importantly a lot of women would be afraid he wouldnt know what to do in his first relationship and make mistakes that they dont want to go through and have to teach him so theyes no way if a womens by some miracle is attracted to me someday im admitting im a virgin Plus the stigma of it.. shed tell her circle of friends and id be thinking about how they proably think im a freak and social pariah and laugh behind my back i dont want that ***** Link to post Share on other sites
dreamingoftigers Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Please weve seen pletny of threads here of women saying they wouldnt want to be with a virgin because of lack of pleasuring her in the bedroom and they said more importantly a lot of women would be afraid he wouldnt know what to do in his first relationship and make mistakes that they dont want to go through and have to teach him so theyes no way if a womens by some miracle is attracted to me someday im admitting im a virgin Plus the stigma of it.. shed tell her circle of friends and id be thinking about how they proably think im a freak and social pariah and laugh behind my back i dont want that ***** I've been here for awhile. this is the second one I've seen. Link to post Share on other sites
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