Women who dislike alpha's

[charlietheginger]

We will never hear the alpha male point of view.

No alpha male gives a sheiot about creating a user

Name logging on to respond to a post about alpha

Males. No alpha female ether.

 

Only us loser beta males and beta females put

Enough effort to bicker at each other over a computer

screen about what a alpha even is.

[dreamingoftigers]

I dont care if its long id like to hear your response

 

I'm not done it yet....

 

I can pm it to you tomorrow/Monday LOL.

 

Sorry, I just started back on my ADD meds, I could probably write a book by next week.

 

[PJKino]

I'm not done it yet....

 

I can pm it to you tomorrow/Monday LOL.

 

Sorry, I just started back on my ADD meds, I could probably write a book by next week.

 

 

no problem

[charlietheginger]

Just curious as to how you would define alphas and betas.

Betas a person that cant figure out what the difference

Between a beta and alpha is.

 

Alphas is a person that could careless

[ls32ssibm]

You calling me "long-winded" is shorthand for you conceding that my arguments are right. If you're calling me "long-winded" you might as well call Dreaming With Tigers long-winded. The concept of human hierarchy isn't a topic that you write one sentence on and be done with it. It's too complex for that. Sorry you can't keep up.

 

You aren't writing about a "hierarchy", you are comparing humans to wolves. "Hierarchys" don't have alphas, idiot boy. Take a look at the military hierarchy, for example, before you run your mouth in your next uninformed post.

[runner]

Look at my post on the previous page and read carefully.

 

but you're definition wasn't very convincing and logically full of holes. in far less words, it would have been much more convincing to propose that individuals (male or female) convey a spectrum of personality traits, not 'alpha-ness'.

 

but if you prefer that particular terminology, all the more power to you.

[ThaWholigan]

but you're definition wasn't very convincing and logically full of holes. in far less words, it would have been much more convincing to propose that individuals (male or female) convey a spectrum of personality traits, not 'alpha-ness'.

 

but if you prefer that particular terminology, all the more power to you.

I think that people tend to be binary in the way they analyze people. It's either this or that.

 

I agree that there is a large spectrum that everything falls on. Especially regarding attraction. That's not to say d'Argennes is completely wrong, but I think he's vastly exaggerating what he's talking about, as guys who tout similar ideologies are wont to do.

[dreamingoftigers]

LOL, I find short-term mating gross.

 

It is literally a TURN OFF.

 

That might make me "damaged" or "insecure" in your books BUT it is still valid because it turns me off. Maybe it's because I'm heavy and married and men still hit on me semi-regular. It grosses me out that people treat sexuality (a High-risk and intimate/special thing that can bring BABIES into the world) as something you do because you might have an opportunity to jam your dick into someone you saw walking down the street. Yuck. I refuse to be treated like a human tampon because some guy thinks he "can."

 

It often floors me how men don't see how their sexuality is manipulated and used against them to sell other men's products and make them poorer and those guys richer and in theory more mateable.

 

LOL want proof that "hot firefighter" isn't universal? I don't masturbate to hot firefighter. Same as I wouldn't masturbate to any other man-slut that my mind could come up with.

 

It could very well be that you are discussing another mating "trend" but not an absolute. As we grow up, different sets of experiences are input into us. US media definitely had a much larger effect on it's own people so it doesn't surprise me that you would identify a "trend." Good for you.

 

But then again, I always hated that the princess never kicked the dragon's ass in fairytales while growing up. And I used to wonder why the Prince never needed saving. Maybe I'm a closet lesbian.

 

Don't get it twisted... those same 'civilized' women who are doctors or lawyers now are getting banged by the janitor with 50 tattoos on parole in the broom closet...of course they never tell. All women are raw horny opportunistic floozies who want alpha male d!ck.

 

They want to marry their 'civilized' boss with the pot belly and the 20 million dollar house. BUT THEY WANT TO BANG THE HOT FIRE FIGHTER WITH THE 6 PACK ABS.

 

There is no difference between the 18 year old mall chick and the 28 year old PHD....they all want to get banged by the hottest, richest man they can find....the older they get the more 'civilized' they get cause they can't compete with young attractive women.. so they go for $$$ more than looks...but don't think these biyaches are happy about it.

[2.50 a gallon]

I find most of the posts on this thread to be absurd.

 

You see some guy who is over 6 foot, has a nice looking face, along with a know it all or an arrogant attitude immediately assume that he is an alpha. Yes it is true that the younger immature high school and college girls flock to him, but that doesn't last long.

 

One of the reasons you see him with so many different women is that most of them after a date or two don't want to have anything to do with him and his kind again

 

When I was in college my three best friends were all tall and good looking.

 

For chits and grins we were forever trying to date each others girl friends.

 

My Italian friend, had this great curly hair that the coeds went nuts for, he looked like Dean Martin and played drums in a local rock band. One time he asked me to be his wingman as he wanted to date the president of a sorority and she would only go out with him is if he brought along another guy as a double date and take out her best friend. I got kissy face with my date and he did not. And a month later I was dating the sorority president. I was best man at his first wedding and then we drifted apart, until just recently when we made contact again, after his second wife left him. I was shocked to find out that he had only been to bed with his two former wives.

 

Another friend was something like 6' 3 whose parents had lots of money, and supported him through college. We were best friends long after our college days and in fact for a couple of years after college were roomates. Yeah he had some hot ladies, and he also used to brag that he had been with at least 50 women. But the truth is in order to run up the score over half of his partners were Alpo eaters. And I stole away two of his hotties along with banging his good looking sister.

 

And my last friend, another 6 footer, with curly hair along with a bright smile, a great dresser with hardly ever a hair out of place who had this knack of talking girls out of their clothes so he could photograph them, left them frustrated as he was gay

 

Other than the photographer, the other two tried repeatedly to get a date with one of my ladies and always failed.

Edited January 13, 2013 by 2.50 a gallon

[todreaminblue]

Yes....they DO exist...in fact, I've dated a couple of them, they are very few and far between.

 

One recently told me of a guy she went out with once....I kind of knew him from our social circle...cool guy, but she didn't care for him because he was too popular.

 

When was the last time you heard someone call that a deal breaker? LOL Now THAT kind of woman is for me. Cute lady, too.

 

I was kinda baffled at first, and I even had to ask her twice.

 

another woman I went out, rather attractive, too....said she typically stayed away from the chiseled, square-jawed hunks...because she stereotyped them as the ones that would always cheat on her...so by dating average Joe's or even the lesser attractive than even her, she'd be more assured they'd never cheat on her.

 

Not sure if the 2nd sounds logical, but the first does (about popular guy)

 

Any input?

 

 

 

I have dated popular guys,the ones i have dated were always conscious of what their peers thought(even if they led the pack) or were doing, would often follow the pack mentality,doesn't really attract me, I like a guy who isn't afraid to stand up for what he believes in, and have a humble spirit,I don't like arrogance either, i would run from that one.

 

the popular guys would take me on dates to popular hang outs where they knew everyone, I would rather go off the beaten track......deb

[Imported]

What about people that genuinely dislike things that most other people like? Because they are quirky and different themselves?

 

I can never connect with popular "alphas" in a deep way. They generally have many superficial qualities but lack emotional depth.. Most guys I was truly into said this sentence at one point: "I know most people think I am weird".

 

How many times have you referred to yourself in a thread as "quirky"? I don't read all your postings, but I am certain I have seen you do this more than 3 times.

 

Do you like being thought of as "quirky"? Do you purposely choose things that would make other people think you are "quirky"?

 

"I don't think that word means what you think it means." .......?

 

Who the hell doesn't think they're weird, especially people that post too much on the internet.

[charlietheginger]

Extream alpha = muscular nice face

Extream beta = soft body round face

 

Extreams exist but most men fall

In the middle.

 

A guy could be 75% alpha and %25

beta and still be alpha.

 

A beta can be 75% beta and 25% alpha

But will always be beta.

 

Fun fact alphas walk into a room and

Women immediate response is to look

At him.

 

Beta walks into a room un noticed.

 

Alphas exist in all shape and form

Smart intellectual alphas can hang

With smart intellectual women.

skateboarder surfer type skinny and

Wearing skinny jeans can be alpha.

Computer nerds can still be alphas.

 

Alphas attract the opposite sex know

How to socialize and never question

Themselves.

 

A short bald man can be alpha and own

The room with his intellect and charm

Just as eazy as a tall thin guy.

 

Alphas beta is more about "dominance"

Attracting women. if its being smart

Or being brawny. Alpha is a mindset.

[runner]

Would you bother pointing out these holes?

 

No. "Alphaness" is a spectrum in terms of morality but the traits that comprise an alpha are central to all that are on the spectrum.

 

actually i don't have time to address all of them in detail, so i apologise.

 

although to address just one, your biggest fallacy here is in comparing humans to 'wolf packs' rendering the rest of your argument problematic. at the very least, you really should be referrencing primates instead.

 

cheers,

Edited January 14, 2013 by runner

[chex]

I'm still in high school so a bit below most of y'all's stage in life .. But I honestly haven't noticed too many alpha males who get a ton. As a matter of fact, most of the more popular kids are sort of insecure, at my school at least. They're always attention whores, and scared of losing their pedestal. But nonetheless considered "alpha" most likely.

 

The people who are actually promiscuous, and have quite a bit of sex vary. There's a girl who, at first glance, you certainly wouldn't guess she was promiscuous and getting many guys, but at one point this year she was actually triple timing three guys. And the funny thing is, once the guys found out, they really didn't care too much, actually. She's ultraconfident in who she is in general, and just sort of attracts guys and gals alike(sexually and platonically). The guys on the football/basketball teams are actually kind of losers, and often attention whores. No one really gives a **** about the cheerleaders, they're just more attention whores.

 

The actual attractive people are spread far and wide. There's a geek who knows multiple programming languages and runs cross country. There's a dancer who gets completely straight As and is a solid 10 to most anyone you might talk to. There's one kid who really just emanates charisma. He hasn't done anything spectacular. He doesn't lead anything. He's just, for lack of a better word, awesome.

 

There are more but those are some of the stand outs.

 

Maybe just giving you guys a younger perspective.

 

I'd say the most important thing about confidence is separating your confidence from your ego. Make it so that your confidence is high, but your ego can be humble at times. Because confidence is what's attractive, folks. It often comes with ego, but they're not inseparable.

Edited January 14, 2013 by chex