KungFuJoe Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 If a woman doesn't need to wear make up, then **** it. I'm not wearing any pants. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
silvermercy Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Why does a woman even need to wear makeup? its bs from society and guys like you that teaches them they need that stuff. Personally I feel a girl is most beautiful in her natural skin. I hope you dress up as much as you expect this woman to. Fortunately there are many men like you out there who think this way - and I have met them!! Unlike what we hear here on LS there are MANY men who like a natural look in women. These are the best men out there. Plus I don't enjoy looking fake. I'm pretty enough as nature made me. Seriously, if a man makes such a big fuss about simple makeup it's a deal-breaker for me. Imagine what will happen when the woman gets older and naturally loses her looks!! It's one thing making an effort and another becoming stressed about if your partner likes you better with makeup or not! 1 Link to post Share on other sites
sweetjasmine Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 If a woman doesn't need to wear make up, then **** it. I'm not wearing any pants. It's in the single digits Fahrenheit outside today, without the wind chill. If my H thought the same way you do and refused to wear pants on the days I don't wear make-up, his dick would've frozen and snapped off by now. So good luck with that. Link to post Share on other sites
chex Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 If a woman doesn't need to wear make up, then **** it. I'm not wearing any pants. Heh, I think you could just call off the date and stay at home. It's a lot more fun when you're not wearing any pants, and she's not wearing any make-up. Maybe you should lose the shirts too. And the underwear. Link to post Share on other sites
KungFuJoe Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 It's in the single digits Fahrenheit outside today, without the wind chill. If my H thought the same way you do and refused to wear pants on the days I don't wear make-up, his dick would've frozen and snapped off by now. So good luck with that. Damn you and your sound logic. Link to post Share on other sites
kaylan Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 You're joking right? Being sarcastic? Trying to make a point by taking the "wrong" stance on purpose? Which one is it? Excuse me for preferring a natural woman. And excuse me for mentioning that our patriarchal society based on double standards pushes women to parade around like someone they are not all the time. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
KungFuJoe Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Excuse me for preferring a natural woman. And excuse me for mentioning that our patriarchal society based on double standards pushes women to parade around like someone they are not all the time. Women wearing make up is no different than wearing a nice dress or a dude getting a haircut or styling his facial hair...or wearing a suit to dinner. It's one of the MANY things we do to improve our appearance. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
TheZebra Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Women wearing make up is no different than wearing a nice dress or a dude getting a haircut or styling his facial hair...or wearing a suit to dinner. It's one of the MANY things we do to improve our appearance. Women's hair and make-up take a LOT longer to do than a man's. Just to give you an idea, after I wash my hair it takes anywhere from 10-20 minutes just to brush it because it knots like hell, and then another 10-20 minutes of blowdrying so it looks nice. What do guys do, brush it for 10 seconds? Same with make-up. You can argue all you want, but for a woman to get dolled up it takes time. Especially if she's doing it every day for work. Oh, and clothes take longer too. In the end, it takes my dad 15 minutes total to get ready. It takes my mom more than an hour. I only wear make-up when I have to, and in light amounts because it's such a waste of time. Link to post Share on other sites
KungFuJoe Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Women's hair and make-up take a LOT longer to do than a man's. Just to give you an idea, after I wash my hair it takes anywhere from 10-20 minutes just to brush it because it knots like hell, and then another 10-20 minutes of blowdrying so it looks nice. What do guys do, brush it for 10 seconds? Same with make-up. You can argue all you want, but for a woman to get dolled up it takes time. Especially if she's doing it every day for work. Oh, and clothes take longer too. In the end, it takes my dad 15 minutes total to get ready. It takes my mom more than an hour. I only wear make-up when I have to, and in light amounts because it's such a waste of time. It takes my wife probably 45 minutes, on average to get ready. Takes me 30 minutes if you include a 5 minute quick shower. If I rush, maybe 20. And it's ALL worth it. The day I stop wanting to look my best when I go out with my woman and vice versa, that's the day you can stick me out to pasture. Link to post Share on other sites
SJC2008 Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Excuse me for preferring a natural woman. And excuse me for mentioning that our patriarchal society based on double standards pushes women to parade around like someone they are not all the time. ^^^^^ In our effed up western culture, a lot of times, the chick that looks better with makeup will be considered more attractive than the one who looks better without makeup. I like the ones who look better without makeup, more natural. 4 Link to post Share on other sites
SJC2008 Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 I realize this might sound shallow....I'm sorry for that. So, here it goes. I am exclusive with this fabulous sweet sweet woman. She is everything I want in a partner and I see this as being a long long haul relationship. She is a very pretty woman. The first few times we went out (we've been seeing each other for 3 months) she wore make-up, lipstick and earings and since then she hasn't accept one time for New Year's Eve. I like a girl to pretty herself up with those things, that is my taste. It's not like we have stayed in everytime since our third date. We have been out by ourselves and with friends and family. Is there any way I can address this with her without coming across as a total shallow jerk? TELL HER. Even if it offends her she'll appretiate you being honest once the smoke stops billowing out of her nostrils lol. Just say it in a nice way, that's all. Link to post Share on other sites
xxoo Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 You can't assume that a woman who doesn't wear make up is a woman who no longer puts effort into looking nice. I put effort into having clear, healthy skin, and a strong, lean body. That's how I choose to use my extra time each week: exercising and cooking healthy meals, rather than putting on make up and styling my hair If my partner really liked me "dolled up" sometimes, I'd be happy to do that! But I wouldn't want to do it every day. It isn't me--I feel good in my natural skin. Also, I believe my natural skin stays more beautiful without all those chemicals on my face every day. 4 Link to post Share on other sites
KungFuJoe Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Op, This might be a lose/lose situation for you. If she isn't someone who likes getting all dolled up, then she probably won't appreciate you telling her to, no matter HOW you put it. You could try dropping a subtle hint, like, "I was just thinking about how much fun we had on New Years. And you looked absolutely amazing that night as well." 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Keenly Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 I don't want to derail the thread, but I just have to throw this out there because it happened to me. My most recent ex loved makeup. Loved everything about it. Loved wearing it, loved buying it, loved watching videos about it on youtube, you name it. Year and a half into our relationship, she stopped wearing makeup. Then about a month later, she started wearing makeup when going out with her family, or when going to work, but never around me. I took this as she doesn't even care enough about me to put the same effort in looking as good as she does for complete strangers. I took offense to it. Link to post Share on other sites
KungFuJoe Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 I don't want to derail the thread, but I just have to throw this out there because it happened to me. My most recent ex loved makeup. Loved everything about it. Loved wearing it, loved buying it, loved watching videos about it on youtube, you name it. Year and a half into our relationship, she stopped wearing makeup. Then about a month later, she started wearing makeup when going out with her family, or when going to work, but never around me. I took this as she doesn't even care enough about me to put the same effort in looking as good as she does for complete strangers. I took offense to it. Yeah...that would be a total deal breaker for me. That's a sign she took you for granted. Link to post Share on other sites
kaylan Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Women wearing make up is no different than wearing a nice dress or a dude getting a haircut or styling his facial hair...or wearing a suit to dinner. It's one of the MANY things we do to improve our appearance. ??? What? Um, wearing make up is NOT the same as wearing a dress, and DEF NOT the same as male grooming and appearance habits. You cannot compare male grooming and appearance standards to that of women. Society has a harsher microscope over women. Last I checked, makeup, anti aging creams, extensions, hair dye, etc, are all targeted at women. Link to post Share on other sites
KraftDinner Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 It's a compatibility thing. If she's casual and you're high-maintenance, it'll always be a difference between you. You could say 'you looked great when we did x, y, z,' but I strongly advise you to avoid saying anything else. I don't see any way this won't come off as criticism to her. Subtle comments about her looks would translate into a blow to her ego. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
charlietheginger Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Boo hoo hoo my girlfriend stopped wearing make up Im upset i cant take her around my friends im embarrassed To be seen in public with her boo hoo hoo. 10yrs later you will be whining this Boo hoo hoo my wife has wrinkles her boobs hang lower And her but isnt as firm . We had 2 kids and i expect Her to look exactly like she did at 23 now shes 33. She Don't love me she only shaves her legs 2 times a week Had i know she would let her self go i would not have Married her.... Oh the deception ... 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Keenly Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 ??? What? Um, wearing make up is NOT the same as wearing a dress, and DEF NOT the same as male grooming and appearance habits. You cannot compare male grooming and appearance standards to that of women. Society has a harsher microscope over women. Last I checked, makeup, anti aging creams, extensions, hair dye, etc, are all targeted at women. I'm pretty sure that is not what he meant. I think he is saying that both sexes do these things to take pride in their own appearance, and it is not fair for one sex to expect the other to look a certain way while not maintaining their own appearance. Correct KFJ? Link to post Share on other sites
Keenly Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Boo hoo hoo my girlfriend stopped wearing make up Im upset i cant take her around my friends im embarrassed To be seen in public with her boo hoo hoo. 10yrs later you will be whining this Boo hoo hoo my wife has wrinkles her boobs hang lower And her but isnt as firm . We had 2 kids and i expect Her to look exactly like she did at 23 now shes 33. She Don't love me she only shaves her legs 2 times a week Had i know she would let her self go i would not have Married her.... Oh the deception ... Your post was SUPER helpful. Glad you could contribute to the discussion. Link to post Share on other sites
KungFuJoe Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 ??? What? Um, wearing make up is NOT the same as wearing a dress, and DEF NOT the same as male grooming and appearance habits. You cannot compare male grooming and appearance standards to that of women. Society has a harsher microscope over women. Last I checked, makeup, anti aging creams, extensions, hair dye, etc, are all targeted at women. So what exactly are you trying to say? Women should NOT wear make up? Make up is EVIL? Are you going to stand outside Sephora and MAC with your picket sign? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
ascendotum Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Yeah, because we all know committed men have no beer bellies, are always slim, fit, shave every day, don't smell, and actually have 6-packs! The effort to maintain a six pack with dieting & supps & working out in the gym is so much greater than whats required to put on a bit of lipstick & eye shadow & some hoop earings. If this pleases her man, its not a lot of effort to do it every so often when they go out, than it is for him to bust a gut in the gym to please her. Some women don't like going to the trouble of makeup and I personally don't like it when its at the other end of the spectrum...ie it takes her an hour to paint her face before we go out, but I do appreciate it when she makes a bit of an effort to make herself more pretty when we go out. When women land hot guys I notice they make an extra effort (the same can be said of men to though when they get a girl they are really into). Link to post Share on other sites
KungFuJoe Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 I'm pretty sure that is not what he meant. I think he is saying that both sexes do these things to take pride in their own appearance, and it is not fair for one sex to expect the other to look a certain way while not maintaining their own appearance. Correct KFJ? Correct. (10 char) Link to post Share on other sites
charlietheginger Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 The effort to maintain a six pack with dieting & supps & working out in the gym is so much greater than whats required to put on a bit of lipstick & eye shadow & some hoop earings. If this pleases her man, its not a lot of effort to do it every so often when they go out, than it is for him to bust a gut in the gym to please her. Some women don't like going to the trouble of makeup and I personally don't like it when its at the other end of the spectrum...ie it takes her an hour to paint her face before we go out, but I do appreciate it when she makes a bit of an effort to make herself more pretty when we go out. When women land hot guys I notice they make an extra effort (the same can be said of men to though when they get a girl they are really into). So you want her to look hot so a hot guy will take her Away from you? Link to post Share on other sites
KungFuJoe Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 So you want her to look hot so a hot guy will take her Away from you? Is this a joke? If not, then what you just said REEKS horribly of low self esteem. If you're afraid some other dude is gonna steal your chick...well...I don't even know what to say to that. Link to post Share on other sites
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