Stay classy

[JamesM]

You can sue for anything. It doesn't mean it will move forward and be successful.

 

The very commonly used "fictitious disclaimer" will typically prevent such lawsuits from being brought forth and/or move forward.

 

Suffice it to say that it would be off topic if I added links to support how this HAS been successfully been used in a lawsuit.

[JamesM]

I'm sure there are success stories, which of course are going to vary depending on the laws on the books.

 

Regardless, this couple sucking face doing the car switch routine was most likely cheating.

 

Perhaps. But being that my wife and I drive into the parking lot in separate cars and then go inside and eat (at a sit down restaurant and not a drive thru), then I can understand how a married couple could sit in the care and "make out" before getting lunch.

[Got it]

Oh for Heaven's sake...I'm no prude, but c'mon...nobody wants to see you shoving your tongue down someone else's throat. It's nasty.

 

And everyone doesn't have to think of feel like be, but they sure as hell should be respectful of each other.

 

I DO know someone who was arrested for making out in public, so in some places, that is breaking public decency laws.

 

Like I said, if it violates decency laws then absolutely it is crossing the line, outside of that then it is your own prescribe code of behavior which is perfectly acceptable but don't put it on others.

 

I see no issues seeing people making out. I am not looking for it or staring at them intently. But I understand it is human nature, it is two people enjoying each other and I look away. I don't scowl at them thinking about throwing water on them and how they are ruining the landscaping for everyone else. People kiss. It happens.

[Got it]

Yes, He is...but off-topic.

 

 

 

 

True, but this particularly statement is an opinion and not supported by facts that can be determined to be true. Hence, the possibility of slander or libel. (BTW, many of us feel like these threads are conversational and almost seem o be verbal rather than written. I can see how someone might consider this slander instead of libel.)

 

 

 

True. Having said that, people have successfully sued in cases where fictionized version of an event was published.

 

 

 

Actually, while we don't know the names or places, I am fairly certain that it is no person who is in hell.

 

 

 

Yeah...it all was. Thanks for your humor. Had to clean up some coffee I spit out when I read it.

 

The whole libel/slander thing mirrors this story. It is based on assumptions and opinions which are colored by experiences. I don't fault the conclusion...I could have drawn the same ones. However, as I pointed out, I know that some could see my wife and I as having an affair based on our PDA.

 

When I see older couples who are more affectionate than the norm, I too wonder, but why? Is it because we don't expect married couples to act so lovey dovey? Isn't that quite sad? Can't married people who meet for lunch show too much affection to one another?

 

I think they can. And this couple may be either a cheating couple, or a happily married couple. Choose which, but I am guessing it is based on your own situation.

 

And to the one who said BSs are stating one thing, and OWs the opposite...then I represent another group that sees it differently again.

 

James I think I love you.

[Got it]

I'm sure there are success stories, which of course are going to vary depending on the laws on the books.

 

Regardless, this couple sucking face doing the car switch routine was most likely cheating.

 

 

 

I am surprised that this scenario did not have the WS and the OPs arguing how this must be an affair because of affairs being (more) passionate, etc and the BS and rWS arguing that why assume its an affair and not married people when their sex lives are fulfilling and just as passionate.

[JamesM]

Sometimes I am kinda bold. I think I will be asking the next couple I see who is kissing in their car in a parking lot if they are married to each other. They will ask why and I will say that it is not the correct behavior of married folks...and next time they need to dress up better.

 

My guess is...if they are cheating, then the look on their face will tell me more than I need to know.

 

Yes, I am serious. If I see such a couple, I promise to report.

[Got it]

The OPs mistake was perhaps expecting classy at burger king. I still think it sounds like a telltale affair, partly because of the sordid location. Doing the same thing under the stars by a lake would be different.

 

Why assume its an affair because its BK? There is an amazing number of people of all socio-economic classes who eat fast casual. So if I made out at a sit down restaurant than it would be different?

 

So basically if I am outside of Morton's then I am okay? Just trying to understand the rules here.

[Got it]

Kissing in a garden with a swing and a wall of ivy is romantic.

Kissing while dumpster surfing is sordid.

 

Both may have passion. One has no class. Either could be an affair, but a married or legitimate couple wouldn't need to resort to dumpster surfing as a location for their passion.

 

That's I think tw heart of why it sounds like an affair.

 

Please cite evidence that they were in a waste disposal receptacle. I think you are projecting assumptions.

 

If it is a garden, san swing, and winter so no ivy, that is sordid then, correct?

 

Does anyone have these list of rules to forward to everyone so we can make sure we are all following them appropriately. I would hate to know that I violating the laws of decency police without even knowing it.

[Got it]

Married couples typically don't need to meet up in parking lots in order to passionately rendezvous.

 

However, one of the more common meeting places for AP's, if you go according to posts on LS, would be . . .

parking lots.

 

Yes, but apparently it is the parking lot being a parking lot that was the issue. It seems to be the fact that it is a parking lot belonging to a fast casual establishment and near the location of the waste disposal area that seems to be the issue.

 

You know when I was married I didn't know that we had these rules to follow. I have so much to learn before I marry again.

[Got it]

Sometimes I am kinda bold. I think I will be asking the next couple I see who is kissing in their car in a parking lot if they are married to each other. They will ask why and I will say that it is not the correct behavior of married folks...and next time they need to dress up better.

 

My guess is...if they are cheating, then the look on their face will tell me more than I need to know.

 

Yes, I am serious. If I see such a couple, I promise to report.

 

You must. It is your civic duty.

[Got it]

I'm going by parking lots in general.

It's just low class.

 

It doesn't matter if it's Morton's or the commuter railroad parking lot.

 

I've seen several "married couples" both wearing their weddings rings over the years in the commuter parking lot.

 

I mean that's what married couples do, right? The "wife" meets her husband at the train station, parks next to her husband's car, gets out and the "husband" leans agains his car while the "wife" stands in front of him looking at him adoringly.

 

Why is it low class? Why are PDA something to be frowned upon. Aren't we happy that two people are in love? Why the assumption that two people showing their attraction for each other means an affair?

 

I feel like I am in bizarro world. Shouldn't married people argue that darn it this could be them as well! That they are that passionate about each other, their presence, that it isn't just affairs that people behave like this? Isn't it a sad state that it seems to be true that passion is lost in marriage and PDAs are frowned upon. That it is reasoned that it happens in dating and when young both outside of that must be an affair.

 

I hope to always make out with my husband and phooey anyone that doesn't like it.

[Got it]

this behavior sounds like something two teenagers in high school would do...not necessarily bad or wrong, just not something I tend to see a lot of "adults" doing..but maybe they are- I don't know.

 

ah, to be young again and in that cruddy car my now husband had when we first met...you can do a lot in a small space if you try...now it's a huge mini van ( oxymoronic statement...huge mini van?) that usually has three kids in it who would rather be any place else than with "uncool" mom and dad....

 

( but, on night out when they aren't there, the seats do recline fully...won't say how I know, I just do:laugh:)

 

mind you, we're not in the parking lot of a burger joint under the watchful eye of the burger king or sir Ronald...we do have some decency about us )

 

Inquiring minds are dying to know where you tested out all the logistics perks of your automobile?

 

Naughty frozensprout, you bad girl.

[JamesM]

This is partly on topic. I remember one time after our lunch (yes, it happens every week or two) that we ended up back at our house as we met at our house and then went to eat. So we are sitting in our car smooching and my wife made a comment about kissing in the car. "We are in our own driveway. Somehow it doesn't see right. We could be in the house."

 

There is something about a parking lot.

 

We may need to try BK next week for lunch. I suspect if I am in my suit and she in her dress, then someone will report about that weird couple kissing each other all dressed..."they seemed out of place. They much have been cheating."

 

Hey, at least we had class!

[JamesM]

OMG yes this.

I kept trying to figure out why this thread bugged me so much and it came down to that.

 

WHY isn't everyone celebrating that it could have been a married couple? Why aren't they HOPING it was?

 

Exactly my point too!

 

Ironic isn't it? It MUST be a cheating couple because married people don't do that kind of thing.

 

I disagree. I know of at least one married couple that will spend a few minutes on their lunch smooching and hugging: us. I certainly hope there are many, many more.

[Got it]

This is partly on topic. I remember one time after our lunch (yes, it happens every week or two) that we ended up back at our house as we met at our house and then went to eat. So we are sitting in our car smooching and my wife made a comment about kissing in the car. "We are in our own driveway. Somehow it doesn't see right. We could be in the house."

 

There is something about a parking lot.

 

We may need to try BK next week for lunch. I suspect if I am in my suit and she in her dress, then someone will report about that weird couple kissing each other all dressed..."they seemed out of place. They much have been cheating."

 

Hey, at least we had class!

 

I agree. I know it is naughty but there is something about the car that gets me going as well. Lol A car and/or a park holds a lot of sexual tradition for me. lol

 

And hotel rooms. We were both at the same conference recently, so staying at the same place so we shared a room. I am sorry, I know I share a bed with him every night but there is something about it being a new bed, in a hotel that gets me hot! Just sending naughty texts to each other while we are out with our respective parties, it just makes you all hot and bothered. He credits to not having an animal wanting to share the bed with us, ergo between us.

[Got it]

ah come on now...we actually get more privacy in there than we do at home sometimes...

 

( and it has heated seats, which are a great thing in a Canadian winter)

 

(good god, now I'm reminded of a friend in college who used to drive a mini van...she didn't appreciate it when i started calling it " the shaggin' wagon" )

 

Bwahahahahaha . . . if the van is a rockin' don't come a knockin'!

 

See, that is what I would think. People with kids need that "quick run to the grocery store" to get some booty in without hearing someone screaming about what Joey was doing to them or the incessant "Mom, Mom, Mom, Mom, Mom, Mom, Mom, Mom, Mom, Mom. Hi".

[JamesM]

I He credits to not having an animal wanting to share the bed with us, ergo between us.

 

It is a good thing our dog can't talk!

 

Sorry...off topic a bit.

[Got it]

It is a good thing our dog can't talk!

 

Sorry...off topic a bit.

 

Yeah our one cat just sits at the end of the bed waiting patiently for things to wrap up before he can snuggle up to him again. If the bed is moving too . . . enthusiastically he jumps down until we quiet down again. Poor cat, always so put upon.

[TigerCub]

OMG!! I suddenly thought of a scene in the movie Dogma!!

 

Where Matt Damon's character (Loki) was on the bus with Ben afflec's character (Bartleby) and Loki was talking about how he can spot sins.

 

And it goes somethin like this :

 

 

Loki: (looks around; eyes fall on kissing couple) There. There's one.

Batleby: So what? They're kissing.

Loki: Adultery.

B: That's a stretch. How do you know they're not dating?

Loki: He's wearing a wedding band.

B: So? Maybe that's his wife.

Loki: No married man kisses his wife like that. You get married and the passion dies, man. Don't you ever watch talk shows?

 

:laugh:

haha - I can't believe I didn't remember this sooner - it's one of my favorite scenes in that awesome movie

[JamesM]

But this gets a like from all those who condone people shoving their tongues down each other's throats where children can watch?

 

No, no, no. People are not condoning "people shoving their tongues down each other's throats where children can watch."

 

We are simply questioning the opinion that two people passionately kissing in a BK parking lot cannot be married. I doubt anyone is saying that it is good to shove tongues down throats in front of children...especially while these children are shoving fries down their throats. My kids would say, "Gross!"

 

Seriously, please don't twist the responses into something that they are not. No one here knows for certain who this couple was/is or what their marital status is. And to say that it must be two people having an affair is an insult to many married couples who enjoy passionately kissing each other...no matter the location.

[JamesM]

Y

I'd much rather a child see a couple kissing in burger kings parking lot than swearing at one another in the church parking lot.

 

I love this quote!

[Spark1111]

Exactly my point too!

 

Ironic isn't it? It MUST be a cheating couple because married people don't do that kind of thing.

 

I disagree. I know of at least one married couple that will spend a few minutes on their lunch smooching and hugging: us. I certainly hope there are many, many more.

 

Everyone has always assumed I and my H are dating. We are physically affectionate ALL the time.

 

With the exception of his affair, he could never keep his hand from holding mine, hugs, kisses, and much, much more.

 

With that being said, I think you are missing the distinction between romantic PDAs and priming, bordering on the verge of groping, which is distateful to all. You know? Where someone says, "Get a room already."

 

And they will get a room, shortly, in separate cars to a medium or less expensive hotel or motel.

 

One could surmise, as I have surmised, that 'they' are having an affair.

 

They lack judgement of the people in their immediate surroundings as to be a display that provokes not hearts and flowers and 'how sweet" but...Yuck. Get a room.

 

So if they are NOT having an affair, they STILL do not have any class.

[JamesM]

Everyone has always assumed I and my H are dating. We are physically affectionate ALL the time.

 

With the exception of his affair, he could never keep his hand from holding mine, hugs, kisses, and much, much more.

 

This is a good thing. It is a sign of a good marriage, I think...not that all good marriages need alot of outward affection.

 

With that being said, I think you are missing the distinction between romantic PDAs and priming, bordering on the verge of groping, which is distateful to all. You know? Where someone says, "Get a room already."

 

No, I didn't think I was. But not having been there, I don't know if it was bordering on the distasteful. I do know that many of us (myself included) see a situation through the "glasses" of our own experiences. And if I viewed them as a married or dating couple and someone else viewed them as a cheating couple, then our evaluation of their behavior would be different.

 

One could surmise, as I have surmised, that 'they' are having an affair.

 

One could, and one may be right. One could surmise that it is a married working couple whose only time for dates is on their lunch hour (as is our case much of the time). Getting some alone time when they think they will be given a little time away from being parents is gratifying and a good time to bond.

 

They lack judgement of the people in their immediate surroundings as to be a display that provokes not hearts and flowers and 'how sweet" but...Yuck. Get a room.

 

We have no idea of how many people were around or how private the dumpster area was. In our own BK parking lot, the dumpster is in the back corner away from most of the parking lot. This one may be different.

 

Trust me...it is rare that I see PDA that is exciting to me. It is all "yuck"... unless I am involved.

 

So if they are NOT having an affair, they STILL do not have any class.

 

Interpretation...could be or not.

 

I am never going to say what the intentions of that couple was. I simply offer the opinion that based on my experiences, this certainly could be a legitimate couple (married or dating).

[JamesM]

Yes, plenty are.

 

I expect to see some affirmations to your statement soon from those who condone what you say they condone.

 

 

(crickets chirping)

[jwi71]

I kept trying to figure out why this thread bugged me so much and it came down to that.

 

WHY isn't everyone celebrating that it could have been a married couple? Why aren't they HOPING it was?

 

THIS.

 

It bugged the hellouttame too. Its all about projection.

 

However, I have noticed something.

 

Look how this thread diverged from a simple opinion of a shortly viewed - and out of context - event mushroomed. Suddenly, its involving children and then the PDA is "too much" and how it "must be cheating".

 

Look at the fiction we our informed selves CREATED to support our views of the situation. It must be this because....or it must that because....

 

If we can do this HERE...I hope that the OW see how a BS might form a view of an A. The assumptions, the half-truths, the "must be's".

 

And I hope those BS may now view the OW in a different light - each with a VERSION of the truth that each WANTS to believe. We simply invent "facts" to fill voids as required...

 

...and BOTH perspectives INVENT "facts" which further support their own wanted outcome - despite what was truly and observably known.

 

There's a good lesson there methinks.