quietGuy13 Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 This is the simple truth. This is why relationships are not being made, and there's tons of singles. Guys like most girls. Women only like the perfect guy. So it doesn't matter how much the guy tries, how many relationship books he reads, he will never be liked because most likely he is in the 99% of the guys that women reject. Basicaly WOmen don't like men. I"m willing to bet most women in relatinoships or marriages just do it because they feel sociatal pressure. Men are more accepting even if they reject ugly girls. Here's why: 1. Men actually accept average girls cause most girls are ok, and pretty 2. Men don't demand the girl to be a great super genious or have a great job If women are in bad relationships etc It's their fault. and that's why many girls in the black community end up single mothers or have problems with the guy -Basically they go for the playboys and thugs And yeah by the way, want to know why many marriages are failing and divorce happens? -Most of those are girls that went for the Playboy and now realize he is a playboy and can't be changed. Link to post Share on other sites
MrCastle Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Not to add fuel to the fire, but I do remember reading some OKC poll that showed women found 70% of the men unattractive, leaving only 30% of the men they found online attractive enough to date. Numbers could be off so don't hold me to them, but I do remember it was some ridiculously skewed number. Definitely not 50/50. Link to post Share on other sites
ltjg45 Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 I'm not surprised. Most women I see, I would sleep with. As to whether or not I would actually want to be in a long-term relationship based off of their looks, it is indeed lower but not THAT much lower. Women? I have a better chance of them mocking me behind my back than actually finding a female that would show interest in me. Link to post Share on other sites
MrCastle Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Ahh, found it. 80% of men are "below average" Your Looks and Your Inbox « OkTrends Link to post Share on other sites
SJC2008 Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Most women who do OLD have unrealistic standards so I'd argue the validity of the poll. Women can get dates IRL but go online because they want something "better". Many men who go online do it to get dates period, there's a difference. We all know the top 20% of men run OLD. They reel in a fish a few cliks below them but that they'd still bang. Girl gets happy she finally pulled a hot guy, gets pumped and dumped, rinse and repeat. Link to post Share on other sites
mesmerized Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Ahh, found it. 80% of men are "below average" Your Looks and Your Inbox « OkTrends That's probably true. But if you look at the other graphs, The ugliest men got more messages than the most attractive males and the majority of messages were sent to men that women found average looking. Whereas a woman's inbox size is directly related to her attractiveness. So women cannot be that bad. "2/3 of male messages go to the top 1/3 of women." "the two curves together suggest some strange possibilities for the female thought process, the most salient of which is that the average-looking woman has convinced herself that the vast majority of males aren’t good enough for her, but she then goes right out and messages them anyway." quoted from the article. Most women who do OLD have unrealistic standards so I'd argue the validity of the poll. Women can get dates IRL but go online because they want something "better". Many men who go online do it to get dates period, there's a difference. We all know the top 20% of men run OLD. They reel in a fish a few cliks below them but that they'd still bang. Girl gets happy she finally pulled a hot guy, gets pumped and dumped, rinse and repeat. Bleh, I have found hotter men offline. Most men online are not hot. Also, when is this war of who has it easier going to end? what are you proving to yourself with constantly debating about it? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
MrCastle Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Also, when is this war of who has it easier going to end? what are you proving to yourself with constantly debating about it? While I do agree that it's pointless to keep bringing stuff like this up, men and women both have it easier in different situations. Women can usually get what men want easier (dates, casual sex) But men usually hold the cards when it comes to relationships, which is what most females want. Girls are usually the ones to ask "what are we" or "where is this going", and the man decides what to tell her. So both sexes have it easier, but not to serve their own needs. Women have it easier when it comes to getting what men want, and vice versa, which is pretty silly 4 Link to post Share on other sites
Imajerk17 Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Aww man. I thought I was pretty cool because 15% of my messages got a response. But according to the link that's right in line w the ugly dudes. Makes me feel relieved to be a guy and know that in the real world looks don't matter! Link to post Share on other sites
mesmerized Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 While I do agree that it's pointless to keep bringing stuff like this up, men and women both have it easier in different situations. Women can usually get what men want easier (dates, casual sex) But men usually hold the cards when it comes to relationships, which is what most females want. Girls are usually the ones to ask "what are we" or "where is this going", and the man decides what to tell her. So both sexes have it easier, but not to serve their own needs. Women have it easier when it comes to getting what men want, and vice versa, which is pretty silly Pretty much. Obviously there are exceptions to these rules but for the majority of people the above holds true. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
ltjg45 Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 While I do agree that it's pointless to keep bringing stuff like this up, men and women both have it easier in different situations. Women can usually get what men want easier (dates, casual sex) But men usually hold the cards when it comes to relationships, which is what most females want. Girls are usually the ones to ask "what are we" or "where is this going", and the man decides what to tell her. So both sexes have it easier, but not to serve their own needs. Women have it easier when it comes to getting what men want, and vice versa, which is pretty silly Must be different down here in Jacksonville FL then because that couldn't be more false. Oh well. Forever alone. Link to post Share on other sites
Author quietGuy13 Posted February 4, 2013 Author Share Posted February 4, 2013 Just because women respond to some of your Okcupid emails. doesn't mean s***!!! They just respond to tell you they don't want to talk to you. or just to make sure of something, then they never talk to you again ever. like i din't have a picture and they email me and say "Why dont you have a picture?" and that's it. But anyways, Women have it easier!! Let's put it this way: If you had a big hall room full of male and females, near 90% of the females would be talking to guess who?? Yup women!! So the guys are forced to just be bythemselves or talk to guys . **** **** Women have it easier because when and if they decide to date,,, they just have to step out of their house and they have literalily thousands of guys lining up to meet them. And even if there's not many guys they like, they have 1000 guys lining up so there will be at least a few dozen they like. Link to post Share on other sites
Talak7 Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Just because women respond to some of your Okcupid emails. doesn't mean s***!!! They just respond to tell you they don't want to talk to you. or just to make sure of something, then they never talk to you again ever. like i din't have a picture and they email me and say "Why dont you have a picture?" and that's it. But anyways, Women have it easier!! Let's put it this way: If you had a big hall room full of male and females, near 90% of the females would be talking to guess who?? Yup women!! So the guys are forced to just be bythemselves or talk to guys . **** **** Women have it easier because when and if they decide to date,,, they just have to step out of their house and they have literalily thousands of guys lining up to meet them. And even if there's not many guys they like, they have 1000 guys lining up so there will be at least a few dozen they like. Omg just. Are any of your posts ever useful?? All you do is complain about women not liking you. That's probably why women don't like you. Why the hell would anyone want to meet you from an online dating site when you don't even have a picture? Link to post Share on other sites
sillyanswer Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 This is the simple truth. Which is why it's been discussed here once or twice before already. In fact, the reason I know it must be true is because I read it on the Internet. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
SJC2008 Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Bleh, I have found hotter men offline. Most men online are not hot. Also, when is this war of who has it easier going to end? what are you proving to yourself with constantly debating about it? Are you asking me or the OP? I have never started a thread about who has it easier though I have posted in them. When I say women it doesn't mean all so mabye I should start using some/most for whatever I'm posting about. We all have opinions but I throw facts in too. TBS I don't change my stance about most women that do OLD. It is a FACT that most men quit OLD before even getting a single date. Why is this? I've never messaged top 1/3 women, only average/cute. Link to post Share on other sites
Estate Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 This is the simple truth. This is why relationships are not being made, and there's tons of singles. Guys like most girls. Women only like the perfect guy. So it doesn't matter how much the guy tries, how many relationship books he reads, he will never be liked because most likely he is in the 99% of the guys that women reject. Basicaly WOmen don't like men. I"m willing to bet most women in relatinoships or marriages just do it because they feel sociatal pressure. Men are more accepting even if they reject ugly girls. Here's why: 1. Men actually accept average girls cause most girls are ok, and pretty 2. Men don't demand the girl to be a great super genious or have a great job If women are in bad relationships etc It's their fault. and that's why many girls in the black community end up single mothers or have problems with the guy -Basically they go for the playboys and thugs And yeah by the way, want to know why many marriages are failing and divorce happens? -Most of those are girls that went for the Playboy and now realize he is a playboy and can't be changed. OH MY GOD!!!!! Another one of these BS threads... I'd swear you, Necromancer, Tiesto and a few others are all the same people with nothing to do but post the SAME thread over and over and over. So the whole world is against you because you don't have a girlfriend?? Yet no many how many threads are on her with people offering suggestions and ways for you to MAN UP and actually go out and chat to girl and GET a girlfriend, you bitch and whine and come up with these "facts" to justify the world being against you because you can't talk to a girl because its "too hard"... oh boo hoo. Your "truth" is just plain wrong. The worlds population is growing and growing non-stop. Its larger EVERY DAY! If what you said was true we would be dying out as a species because apparently nobody is hooking up or starting relationships, marriages, etc. It's total BS!!! Just because YOU won't get off your laptop and go talk to women doesn't mean we as a species are all doomed! I'll tell you this, and deny it all you want, I'm telling you this to help you. When I was younger I was just like you, miserable thinking no girl will ever like me. I'd try to approach 1 girl, have no idea what I was doing, fail and then not want to try again for 6 months. Then I just said f*** this. Not every girl will like me, who cares... some will so just go out there, talk to more girls and get better at it. If you talk to one girl every six months you'll just be wracked with nerves. Now I'll talk to LOADS of girls in a single night since I'm so used to it, I'm not nervous any more and I learn from it every time and how to do better in the same situation next time. I feel I am "good" with women now, not brilliant but good. But what does that really mean? Can I go out and get laid? Yes! Can I go out, talk to any girl I want and just take her home? No! I talk to loads of girls in a night out because some won't like me, I won't like others and with others, we just don't click... but then I'll meet the one where we BOTH like each other and it clicks... but if I never approached ANY girls or gave up after the first one, where would I be? Miserable and hating the world! See a trend? Do you like every girl you see? No! Do you ant to be friends with every guy you meet? No! So how can you possibly meet the right girl if you're not meeting LOADS of girls, ALL THE TIME??? Take me for instance. I had two dates this weekend. Friday's went terrible, I felt crappy about it all Saturday and nearly cancelled on the 2nd girl that night... but I said f*** it, and went and met her... and guess what? She turned out to be awesome, and we spent the night together. But what if I just gave up? What would have happened then? I'd have spent the whole weekend at home alone! 6 Link to post Share on other sites
Eternal Sunshine Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Bleh, I have found hotter men offline. Most men online are not hot. Also, when is this war of who has it easier going to end? what are you proving to yourself with constantly debating about it? Same here. I met much better quality men offline. Online men are generally bottom of the barrel. Link to post Share on other sites
mesmerized Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Are you asking me or the OP? I have never started a thread about who has it easier though I have posted in them. When I say women it doesn't mean all so mabye I should start using some/most for whatever I'm posting about. We all have opinions but I throw facts in too. TBS I don't change my stance about most women that do OLD. It is a FACT that most men quit OLD before even getting a single date. Why is this? I've never messaged top 1/3 women, only average/cute. And when did this "FACT" come from? The ones that come out of one's bum don't count just so you know. I know a lot of of men who did OLD and they all got dates, majority of them very average looking or even worse. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
mesmerized Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Same here. I met much better quality men offline. Online men are generally bottom of the barrel. If I had more time and energy to go out I would never use OLD. But unfortunately I've been going out like once a month at most. :-s Link to post Share on other sites
SJC2008 Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 And when did this "FACT" come from? The ones that come out of one's bum don't count just so you know. I know a lot of of men who did OLD and they all got dates, majority of them very average looking or even worse. I've gotten 11 dates online in about a year. I'm average/cute... http://ezinearticles.com/?Why-Do-Guys-Have-Such-A-Hard-Time-With-Online-Dating?&id=5328765 Online dating sucks for men and women but for DIFFERENT reasons. Just as dating is harder for men and women for DIFFERENT reasons. Most men who struggle are not getting dates at ALL. And women who "struggle" either don't like the men that hit on them or don't meet "good" men. Link to post Share on other sites
JuneJulySeptember Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 (edited) I agree this thread has been done before, but today I'll add a new wrinkle to it. I feel in a giving mood. Yes. Average women in attractiveness and above have options aplenty and so generally will only find the top 20% or so of men initially attractive. But, there are ways around this. 1) Go for women that don't play by the food chain rules (very rare!). 2) Go for women who are below average in looks and/or have other things that bring them down to being less desirable (kids, non-white women, women from certain foreign countries). If you exercise #2, you may be able to get a good, cool, smart woman who treats you well, rather than an average woman who is looking over her shoulder for the next best thing and treats you like crap. Remember. It's your guys own fault that things are this way. Treating every woman with average bone structure and a decent body like they are goddesses despite their flaws in personality or lack of life achievements. Being horny arseholes and hitting on everything that moves and falling ridiculously in love with a woman just because of her looks even though she dropped out of college with only 30 credits. Your own fault. Edited February 4, 2013 by JuneJulySeptember Link to post Share on other sites
SJC2008 Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 There's a funny backward correlation in a lot of posts in this forum. One being "men only want sex" the other "can't get sex/date/gf". Such is life I guess?? Link to post Share on other sites
serial muse Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Seriously, quietguy. How many threads on a similar topic are you going to post in a given week? You don't have to start a new thread every time you have a thought (especially when it's the same thought with slightly different wording). Hey, why not try really investing in just one thread, deepening your connection to it, seeing where it goes? I'm starting to think that your real problem is that you can't commit. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
pbjbear Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Men like most girls for hookups/casual sex. For long term relationships, men are just as picky as women. I find the biggest difference to be that men with fewer options are more likely to enter a relationship with a girl, hence why I see so many men around me with girlfriends they are really not all that into but no one else is on the horizon... Link to post Share on other sites
pbjbear Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 I'm not surprised. Most women I see, I would sleep with. As to whether or not I would actually want to be in a long-term relationship based off of their looks, it is indeed lower but not THAT much lower. Women? I have a better chance of them mocking me behind my back than actually finding a female that would show interest in me. Case in point. Most men will screw any woman with a willing hole and in LTR's most men dont have high standards. Kaylan, Lakerman, KungFuPanda, Woggle and some other men on this board are exceptions. Link to post Share on other sites
JuneJulySeptember Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 I would add that women are the same way with the best looking guys. That's why you see SO MANY women here complaining about men having dates and sex with them and not calling them back. If men and women just cared a little bit less about looks, you wouldn't have half of the complaining that you do about dating. Link to post Share on other sites
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