Eternal Sunshine Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 How bad is it in clean eating regime? I have read some conflicting advice. I love cherry coke zero and green iced tea light. Obviously, they have almost no calories but I am not sure about the body's response to artificial sweetener. I have read somewhere that your body secrets insulin the same way as if you ate sugar.... Link to post Share on other sites
Keenly Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Google aspartame. Proceed to never drink it again. 5 Link to post Share on other sites
Author Eternal Sunshine Posted February 9, 2013 Author Share Posted February 9, 2013 Google aspartame. Proceed to never drink it again. I am not convinced. There has actually been very little peer reviewed articles that prove its dangers. Seems like none of the major studies found anything wrong with it. Most stuff I found in google looks like conspiracy theories... 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Keenly Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Well I guess if you like formaldehyde 2 Link to post Share on other sites
SmileFace Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 I say moderation. I personally don't drink it myself unless I am out but I still rather water. Link to post Share on other sites
Pyro Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 I have seen countless studies on diet drinks being bad for you and regular drinks being bad for you. Ideally it is best to not drink soda all together but that isn't happening anytime soon for me. If you can't quit soda then pick a side between diet and non-diet. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
stevie_23 Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 If I were on a clean eating / drinking regime, I'd ONLY ever drink water, personally. It's the only clean drink in my opinion. At a mild stretch, natural juice is ok occasionally. But ANY soda? It has no place in a clean and natural diet. It's all artificial, no matter how low the calories are or if the sugar (all 50 billion teaspoons of it) is replaced with aspartame. If you REALLY don't want to give it up (and I certainly understand that when on any sort of diet, you want to have SOME little thing you really enjoy that's not exactly the healthiest thing ever), I'd either have only 1-2 cans or bottles a week of the REAL stuff. As a kind of reward thing. If you're having more than that at the moment, then it's likely because you're addicted to it I'd say. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
sweetkiwi Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 I never drink soda. And diet soda is the nastiest of the nasty. It tastes like cancer. Formalydahyde is for preserving things. Like, YOUR FAT CELLS. And by now you are chemically addicted to it. But if you ever got the balls to quit you would see a vast improvement in weightloss (though it has "zero" calories), mood, headaches, and even cravings for REAL sugar. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
xxoo Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 It tastes like cancer. Perfect description! Commercial soda and "clean eating" have no place in the same sentence. You don't have to have a perfect diet all the time. You don't have to eat clean all the time. But if you want to eat clean the bulk of the time, you need to abstain from soda the bulk of the time. Soda is a nice treat once in a while, but it is difficult to justify daily soda as part of a healthy diet. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
sweetkiwi Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 I know too much about food. I was vegan for a while. And I am sure I was extremely annoying too, always warning my friends what they were eating and drinking. These days foods are designed to be addictive. That way you are a guaranteed user. User in every since of the word. In the states I was addicted to fast food and processed food. Here in Italy I very rarely consume this junk. And as soon as I do I feel like absolute junk. Challenge yourself ES. Go one week without diet ANYTHING. That includes reduced fat items. Which are also chemically processed. If you don't feel better in a week, fine. But if you do, go another week. And the results will double. When I was a vegan eating a balanced diet (I got plenty of protein, calcium, and natural fat) I lost 10 pounds in a month. I felt so incredibly clean and healthy. Never felt that amazing waking up in the morning. Actually this has inspired me. (Says the chick who just had steak and eggs for breakfast). I am going to seriously reduce my meat intake. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Feelin Frisky Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 (edited) Here's my perspective: if you're already heavy and trying to lose weight and don't drink regular soda with sugar in it, diet soda seems to inhibit weight loss because, one, it's tickling your pleasure center as if you are consuming real sweets which causes an increased desire for pleasure substance consumption. and two, it mixes with your food and you digest much slower. You won't gain weight like you will with actual sugar soda but it will slow your efforts to lose weight to a stand still. As for the chemicals, I can say that I have drank two litre bottles of diet ginger ale for years and didn't experience any noticeable negatives. But if you can do without it, don't use it. It becomes an addiction of its own very quickly and make diet sodas are caffeinated which can complicate your life in other ways. My dietitian said to not even drink seltzer but I can't give that up. Edited February 9, 2013 by Feelin Frisky 1 Link to post Share on other sites
SmileFace Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 I know too much about food. I was vegan for a while. And I am sure I was extremely annoying too, always warning my friends what they were eating and drinking. These days foods are designed to be addictive. That way you are a guaranteed user. User in every since of the word. In the states I was addicted to fast food and processed food. Here in Italy I very rarely consume this junk. And as soon as I do I feel like absolute junk. Challenge yourself ES. Go one week without diet ANYTHING. That includes reduced fat items. Which are also chemically processed. If you don't feel better in a week, fine. But if you do, go another week. And the results will double. When I was a vegan eating a balanced diet (I got plenty of protein, calcium, and natural fat) I lost 10 pounds in a month. I felt so incredibly clean and healthy. Never felt that amazing waking up in the morning. Actually this has inspired me. (Says the chick who just had steak and eggs for breakfast). I am going to seriously reduce my meat intake. You should see my face when I go grocery shopping with my sister and it is artificial this and weight watches that - she has got better for health reasons but why people bye diet food is beyond me. Link to post Share on other sites
sweetkiwi Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Diet food increases weight. Or inhibits weight loss. If it didn't the food would become useless as all customers would cease to need it. Now that'd be dumb. And when I said I was reducing my meat intake above I meant the food kind. Not the other kind. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
FitChick Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Anyone used to eating whole foods, natural foods, the ones nature makes and not manufacturers make, cannot stand the taste of artificial or diet anything. If you want a treat, have half an ounce of dark chocolate or something else that you like. Dark chocolate happens to be good for you. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Casablanca Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 The biggest issue with diet and artificial sweeteners is your taste buds taste sugar, so your body is expecting sugar, but it never gets sugar, so you start to crave it even more and end up eating more, drinking more, etc. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
suladas Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 I don't really buy it. For 3 weeks I stopped drinking pop, juice to, I think in the whole time I had 2-3 cans of diet pop. I noticed no huge weight loss. I am now back to the odd can of regular and diet pop. To say drinking diet pop will hinder weight loss I don't think is true. Even if you makes you crave things more, it doesn't mean you give into those. If you eat the same thing regardless, and the only difference is drinking diet pop vs only water i'm sure weight loss would be the same. I'm loosing around 2lb/week currently and drink at least a can a of pop a day about half diet half regular good enough for me. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
KraftDinner Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 I am not convinced. There has actually been very little peer reviewed articles that prove its dangers. Seems like none of the major studies found anything wrong with it. Most stuff I found in google looks like conspiracy theories... Thank you. Exactly. Men's Health even says there is no proof it's bad for you. There is, however, a ton of proof that sugar (sucrose) is bad for you. I know this isn't what this thread is about, but I've known people who have switched to regular from diet because they believed the hype (and one guy I know put on like 30 pounds...probably not 100 per cent because of the pop, but it didn't help, I'm sure). Link to post Share on other sites
Casablanca Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Thank you. Exactly. Men's Health even says there is no proof it's bad for you. There is, however, a ton of proof that sugar (sucrose) is bad for you. I know this isn't what this thread is about, but I've known people who have switched to regular from diet because they believed the hype (and one guy I know put on like 30 pounds...probably not 100 per cent because of the pop, but it didn't help, I'm sure). Anything can be bad for you if not taken in moderation....I wish colas and such would use regular natural sugar...or even better, wish some would use honey as a sweeter 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Imported Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 (edited) I like diet coke with whiskey or rum. Regular 7up and cherry 7up with vodka. That's the only time I drink soda's. So about everyday, although many times I use juice, water or straight up instead. Don't worry though, I don't really use that much soda in the mix, it's mostly alcohol. Not suicidal or anything, but not looking to live forever. Edited February 9, 2013 by Imported 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Forever Learning Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 All the folks I've known over the years who drink diet drinks got fatter and fatter. All artificial sweetners make me feel like crap. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
FitChick Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 Here is an article about increased diabetes risk. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
FitChick Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 I like diet coke with whiskey or rum. You might want to rethink that if you get stopped by a cop. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
SmileFace Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 You might want to rethink that if you get stopped by a cop. This is good to know. Link to post Share on other sites
pureinheart Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 How bad is it in clean eating regime? I have read some conflicting advice. I love cherry coke zero and green iced tea light. Obviously, they have almost no calories but I am not sure about the body's response to artificial sweetener. I have read somewhere that your body secrets insulin the same way as if you ate sugar.... ES, I was addicted to Diet Pepsi, up to four cans per day for about 2 yrs. My doctor found I had what's called Graves Disease (hyperthyroidism). After much research found that many believe that artificial sweetners helped to bring on this horrible condition. This was in 2007 and have since healed. Now when I drink it I get UTI's and just feel horrid. They are finding many uncool things about AS's ....it's poison IMO 1 Link to post Share on other sites
man_in_the_box Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 Formaldehyde? Perhaps in abysmally low concentrations. You know we contact millions, billions or I don't know exactly in what amount particles of hazardous chemicals and were are equipped to deal with that or it's such small traces that it does not matter. Aspartame concentrations in diet soda is incomparable with sugar concentration in regular soda and the metabolism of aspartame in formaldehyde and possibly further derivatives doesn't even come close "dangerous". Whether it's a smart thing to drink? I'm not sure. Link to post Share on other sites
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