Drseussgrrl Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Says the guy who knows nothing about gamers I know a guy who has a 2 million dollar home who plays call of duty sometimes 4 hours a day. How do u feel about that? Who. Gives. A. Sh*t. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Lonely Ronin Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 So many stupid stereotypes and just extreme ignorance that its painful to read Its 2013 folks. Vgs are extremely mainstream. I know guys who play vgs who are multimillionares with great jobs earning 300k a year. I have friends who are total jock types who love videogames Its not 1980 anymore guys. Among men my age, i know more gamers than nongamers and i dont have many nerd friends That doesn't matter, being a gamer is a social group, and just like other social groups people might reject you because of it. For example I won't date hipsters. Link to post Share on other sites
Pyro Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Says the guy who knows nothing about gamers I know a guy who has a 2 million dollar home who plays call of duty sometimes 4 hours a day. How do u feel about that? You are a proven liar on here so what you said is probably a bunch of bull. I don't play video games and neither does my wife, but I don't judge. Everyone has preferences. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Woggle Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Everybody has their own interests. I know a woman who has grand children that enjoys playing fighting games so the stereotypes are just not true. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
TheBigQuestion Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 I don't actually play video games at all. With that said, anyone who actually thinks that video and computer games in 2013 are "for children" is an idiot. I can understand being critical of someone having a clear-cut, all-encompassing obsession with video games. But as numerous posters have pointed out, video games are intrinsically no different than the thousands of other means people use to waste time on a daily basis. Video games get singled out by women more often than by people in other demographics because most games still aren't designed to appeal to typical women, and thus they aren't able to see the appeal. It's why I as a man do not give a flying rat's ass about the typical woman's obsession with shoes, reality TV, and Twilight. There's also major ignorance and prejudice about video games perpetrated primarily by people who have no interest in it because it's something only "losers" do. Again, I have no dog in this fight, but I still am perplexed by how many women seem to hold on to their unenlightened views on video games and poke fun at men for playing them. Men seem to have a much, much greater tolerance for your average woman's need to spend exorbitant amounts of time and discretionary income shopping for clothes and accessories they will only wear a handful of times, gossiping over the personal lives of celebrities and other people who largely contribute nothing to society, and so forth. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
ls32ssibm Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 That doesn't matter, being a gamer is a social group, and just like other social groups people might reject you because of it. For example I won't date hipsters. Pretty ignorant statement there, bud. Especially everybody and their grandmother (literally) bought a Wii. Owning an Xbox 360 or a PS3 is as mainstream as having a Blu-Ray player below your television. Social group? Get real. Link to post Share on other sites
Lonely Ronin Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Pretty ignorant statement there, bud. Especially everybody and their grandmother (literally) bought a Wii. Owning an Xbox 360 or a PS3 is as mainstream as having a Blu-Ray player below your television. Social group? Get real. Ummm no, owning a gaming system doesn't make you a gamer, learn the lingo man. Link to post Share on other sites
ls32ssibm Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Ummm no, owning a gaming system doesn't make you a gamer, learn the lingo man. You ought to know there is a distinction between casual and hardcore gamer, and most MMORPGs now (as opposed to 5 years ago) now cater to casual gamers, and that used to keep the most hardcore gamers captive. I've seen nerds, jocks, and stoners alike addicted to CoD and GoW, so your point of a designated "social group" is moot. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
ltjg45 Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 While I don't see myself actually stopping to play video games (as I do keep a 3DS XL in my pockets at all times since it does double up as my personal clock as well), I can see why women don't want their mates to play them. Fortunately, my system is portable, games typically is too short, and I'm not so addicted to it that I will ignore anyone. The worst thing I would do is get hit by a car because I stared at the screen too long to pay attention to the road when walking down the street alone. Link to post Share on other sites
ComingInHot Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Honestly?... Because I SUCK at video games. I want to play. I like to watch it played. But I can't participate because I absolutely, HUNDRED percent suck at it. There's only one thing I like to suck at... and it's NOT PS³CPOboxTendo games** 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Necris Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 (edited) So much ignorance Yea this was made for children - Yeah Deadspace is pretty hardcore horror. it also has a few movies and I believe books as well based off of it. Watever, video games where invented and mass marketed for children. Perhaps, but games are so much more now. Honestly some games today have better plots than some books and movies today. Also yes there are strategy games as well, very popular, and you have to actually plan and think when playing games like Starcraft. I don't know why some people think videogames are childish and stupid. They are good fun, and yes, they can be great for socialization. Let me tell you this, I've had more fun playing videogames with friends than I've ever had with any woman in my life. Edited February 13, 2013 by Necris 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Els Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 I don't see how you expect to obtain a productive discussion with your choice of title, OP. Most men who play moderately have gfs/wives who are fine with it. If ALL of the women you have been with have complained, odds are you are not playing moderately. If one or two women only have complained, they have incompatible views with you and you're probably better off without them. Simple as that. The bf and I both play about 1-2 hours a day, with half of that being together. Suits us fine. I don't actually play video games at all. With that said, anyone who actually thinks that video and computer games in 2013 are "for children" is an idiot. I can understand being critical of someone having a clear-cut, all-encompassing obsession with video games. But as numerous posters have pointed out, video games are intrinsically no different than the thousands of other means people use to waste time on a daily basis. Video games get singled out by women more often than by people in other demographics because most games still aren't designed to appeal to typical women, and thus they aren't able to see the appeal. It's why I as a man do not give a flying rat's ass about the typical woman's obsession with shoes, reality TV, and Twilight. There's also major ignorance and prejudice about video games perpetrated primarily by people who have no interest in it because it's something only "losers" do. Again, I have no dog in this fight, but I still am perplexed by how many women seem to hold on to their unenlightened views on video games and poke fun at men for playing them. As usual, your points are valid, but you're making up much more of a gender-divide than there actually is. A quick browse through this thread alone will be sufficient to convince you that the 'unenlightened views' on video games and fun-poking isn't done solely by women. Not even PRIMARILY by women. And a lot of the defending is done by female gamers. These threads don't follow any sort of male vs female lines at all, more of gamers vs non-gamers. Men seem to have a much, much greater tolerance for your average woman's need to spend exorbitant amounts of time and discretionary income shopping for clothes and accessories they will only wear a handful of times, gossiping over the personal lives of celebrities and other people who largely contribute nothing to society, and so forth. Unless the man in question genuinely doesn't care about how his woman dresses and accessorizes, you cannot compare shopping to video gaming. Video gaming contributes zero to a relationship; shopping is necessary if you want to see her in a nice dress that fits her well and shows off her body to its best advantage. That takes a lot of time to find, and generally costs good money. If you don't care about that, then yes, shopping does go in the same basket as reality TV and video games. If you do, it's the equivalent of shopping for men. The only difference is that male shopping takes a much shorter time because there is much less variety and factors involved in male fashion, and men generally don't need to dress to suit their body type as much as women do. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
ltjg45 Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Unless the man in question genuinely doesn't care about how his woman dresses and accessorizes, you cannot compare shopping to video gaming. Video gaming contributes zero to a relationship; shopping is necessary if you want to see her in a nice dress that fits her well and shows off her body to its best advantage. That takes a lot of time to find, and generally costs good money. If you don't care about that, then yes, shopping does go in the same basket as reality TV and video games. If you do, it's the equivalent of shopping for men. The only difference is that male shopping takes a much shorter time because there is much less variety and factors involved in male fashion, and men generally don't need to dress to suit their body type as much as women do. Wrong. Shopping is not necessary unless you need new clothing. I seen a lot of impulse buying done strictly from my mother. Buying things that she only uses for a few weeks or a month tops then it is forgotten and taking up space. I had to throw away a few things that was hers strictly because she forgot about them yet when I mention about throwing it away, she rather keep it for some dumb reason. I'm sure there is a lot of females who has too many "designer clothing", costing her from $20-$100 a piece that hasn't been worn for years. Calling my video game "hobby" an insult to the relationship while the woman in question is dropping hundreds of dollars every 2 weeks shopping for clothes that she will forget about in a month "acceptable" is complete and utter BS. I'm not going to tolerance that crap in any way, shape, or form. Link to post Share on other sites
Els Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 (edited) Wrong. Shopping is not necessary unless you need new clothing. I seen a lot of impulse buying done strictly from my mother. Buying things that she only uses for a few weeks or a month tops then it is forgotten and taking up space. I'm sure there is a lot of females who has too many "designer clothing", costing her from $20-$100 a piece that hasn't been worn for years. Calling my video game "hobby" an insult to the relationship while the woman in question is dropping hundreds of dollars every 2 weeks shopping for clothes that she will forget about in a month "acceptable" is complete and utter BS. I'm not going to tolerance that crap in any way, shape, or form. Way to skim my post. 1) I did not say that gaming is an insult to the relationship. WTF? 2) This isn't about your mother , this is about your girlfriend, presuming you have one. If you don't mind your girlfriend wearing old clothes or the same clothes each time you go out, then, as I said, it is fair for you to consider her shopping to be the equivalent of your gaming. 3) Yes, people generally do need new clothes. Most women have to build their wardrobe up piece by piece. Unless you're dating an older, corporate woman, or a rich girl, most younger graduates are still in the process of buying theirs. Not to mention that people's size changes, seasons change, and stuff gets torn or worn. 4) Dropping hundreds of dollars every 2 weeks shopping for clothes that she will forget in about a month is really the equivalent of a guy gaming for 40 hours a week. If you're going to pull extremes out, we're not going to get anywhere. Edited February 13, 2013 by Elswyth Link to post Share on other sites
2sure Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Designer clothing costs thousands, it's nothing compared to the cost of toys or games. And as long as you are working you can enjoy anything you can afford. Who cares what anyone else thinks? You can play games alone for the rest of your life if that's what you prefer. Link to post Share on other sites
Keenly Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Any woman who can't tolerate my gaming lifestyle... as its been my entire life.... is not worth my time. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
tbf Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 I play sometimes. My husband doesn't. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Els Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Also, I find it amusing that some guys here are assuming that 'women all love to shop til they drop and love Twilight and hate video games'. All that says to me is: 'Those are the girls I notice and/or want to be with.' How ironic, then, that the very acts that you claim to detest actually still produce the desired results - getting attention from men. My girl friends and I love nerdy stuff, including gaming, and we generally dress down or simple because we don't have the money or inclination to shop that much. Some of them are still single. Sad, eh? 3 Link to post Share on other sites
ltjg45 Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Designer clothing costs thousands, it's nothing compared to the cost of toys or games. And as long as you are working you can enjoy anything you can afford. Who cares what anyone else thinks? You can play games alone for the rest of your life if that's what you prefer. Really? A new PS3 will cost you $200 (if it's used) to $400 (if you want a brand new and fully updated model). My 3DS XL cost me $200 tops and that is the most up-to-date model in the market right now. I got it when it was first available a year ago. While I have broke my START button on it, it is still somewhat usable. My games? I got Pokemon Black 2 and White 2 ($30 each), Advance Wars Dual Strike ($8 pre-owned), Yugioh World Champ 2011 ($20 but that was brought about 3 years ago), and Dead or Alive: Dimensions ($25 at release early last year). All of that total to be $313. I'm not going to buy another game for a few months, if not longer. I'm sure a female can spend and waste $300-$500 in a far quicker manner doing impulse buying for clothes in just a couple of weeks. Yet my hobby is so "destructive" to relationships and society.... Such close-minded hypocrites. I had one female tell me that I'm nerdy from the opinions of one of her friends because I'm playing with my system while walking down the street alone. They may have a point if I was walking with someone and ignoring them but I'm literally walking alone. I didn't know that I had to act like society demands me to while walking alone. Despite this, I see a lot of males and females talking on their cell phones and texting....... but that's all right since it is deemed acceptable to society. Oh, the irony. No wonder some males rather stay single. Society can shove their values up their tales. Link to post Share on other sites
Els Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 ....Okay, I suppose some of the mis-assumptions are not just due to noticing certain girls, but due to them not really knowing any women other than their mother. Link to post Share on other sites
2sure Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Youre hobby is fine. Some women just dont find that hobby an attractive trait. I will never again date a man with a golf affliction. Today I bought a purse for what you will spend on games in a two or three years...some men would find that to be a real problem. To each his own. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
ltjg45 Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Also, I find it amusing that some guys here are assuming that 'women all love to shop til they drop and love Twilight and hate video games'. All that says to me is: 'Those are the girls I notice and/or want to be with.' How ironic, then, that the very acts that you claim to detest actually still produce the desired results - getting attention from men. My girl friends and I love nerdy stuff, including gaming, and we generally dress down or simple because we don't have the money or inclination to shop that much. Some of them are still single. Sad, eh? Oh please. I only caught interest in a total of TWO women that I was willing to speak to throughout my entire life. If they have a boyfriend, oh well. If they are clearly better than me, I'm not going to bother. If they are around a bunch of their friends, not worth the embarassment. If they act like bitches, I'll let some bad boy have them. On either case, I do want them to at least look somewhat attractive. You don't need designer clothing to pull that off. I'm as frugal as one can be and I would be fine if it wasn't for the fact that despite I want to work, I can't seem to find work. It is pissing me off. Link to post Share on other sites
ltjg45 Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Youre hobby is fine. Some women just dont find that hobby an attractive trait. I will never again date a man with a golf affliction. Today I bought a purse for what you will spend on games in a two or three years...some men would find that to be a real problem. To each his own. I'm not going to play my system around a female that I'm interested in. That's common sense. I doubt I have gotten that dumb yet. But if I'm walking solo or I'm alone somewhere? No way I'm not pulling it out and playing with it. If they honestly thing I'm socially inept because of it, then it works nicely to my advantage because I don't want to speak to them anyway. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Els Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 On either case, I do want them to at least look somewhat attractive. You don't need designer clothing to pull that off. I'm as frugal as one can be and I would be fine if it wasn't for the fact that despite I want to work, I can't seem to find work. It is pissing me off. This isn't ABOUT designer clothing, it's about the fact that you need to shop to pull that off. It takes even more time to find a nice dress if you cannot afford designer, because you generally get what you pay for and you will have to work within your budget. So yes, you do seem to need women to spend some time and money shopping to keep you attracted. On the other hand, most non-gamer women don't need you to play games to keep them attracted. So stop lumping them in the same category. Link to post Share on other sites
Els Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 I only caught interest in a total of TWO women that I was willing to speak to throughout my entire life. Yeaaaah... this definitely explains that. How about you stop talking like you're the Omniscient One about women and their habits when the only woman whose habits you actually know of is your mother? Link to post Share on other sites
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