uni-versal Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 (edited) I need some serious relationship advice here, please help. It's a long read, I'll warn you, so the tl;dr would be "will my shy girl..." actually I can't even tl;dr this post because it's too complicated. I'll try to make it as simple as possible. Let me start off by saying that I have trust issues. I'm a very down-to-earth, non-religious kind of guy. I don't believe in karma. I'm from Illinois, I view cheating not as a yes or no kind of thing, either. Nobody can ever say "I would never have sexual intercourse outside of my marriage". What if he/she cheated first? Multiple times? With your sister? What if Ryan Gosling wanted to lay you? What if you were tied down and f*cked against your will, even? (Although I wouldn't consider this "cheating", my point is that everyone has a breaking point). There is a certain point where vows are broken. That is why I view cheating as a spectrum. Some people are much more, or much less likely to commit the offense. An insecure sl*t who has no self-respect and is hammered on new years eve while her boyfriend sleeps at home is much more likely to cheat than a moral-bound, loving wife. But, temptation exists in all of us. Now that you understand my view on life and relationships, I will continue. If you still don't believe me that everyone has their breaking point, consider this: Infidelity Statistics | Statistic Brain The percentage of women/men who would have an affair if they knew their spouse wouldn't find out is 68 and 74 percent, respectively. In reality, this is a survey. We all know that a lot of people probably felt morally obligated to answer "no" to this question, but in reality, would definitely have an affair with the confidence that they would not get caught. Am I the only one who grasps the significance of the bombshell that was just dropped? SIXTY EIGHT and SEVENTY FOUR percent?? Yes, that means that for all of us who are attached, every single one of us, chances are that our loved one would cheat if they knew they wouldn't get caught. It's simple statistics. It's a 68-32 draw for us men and a 74-26 draw for women.' Right now, I'm dating my wonderful girlfriend. She's a very shy girl. She doesn't look people in the eye when she talks to them very much, if at all. She is not confident in her body at all... granted, there are some reasons - She has relatively small t*ts and not that great of a booty, but I still think she is pretty. She was a virgin before me. We are both in college. We both party and drink a lot, but as of right now I am confident she wouldn't do anything with any other guys, especially considering the fact that it took me two months before she even wanted to give a blowjob. She has had bad experiences in the past... This may be inappropriate but she blew her homecoming date her last year in high school and he promptly left her at the dance. I know she was hurt by this. My worry is, in my reading online, I have discovered that many people actually believe that it's the shy girls who cheat, because once they come out of their shell, they feel they have missed out on a lot, and just go crazy. I know that I have trust issues, but some things about her strike me as the "wants to be a slut but isn't confident enough" type. Even after weeks of hooking up she was still uncomfortable getting naked with me and still is sometimes. The fact that she blew her date... Well, I don't really know the details but that sounds kind of slutty to me. I don't want to be dating a ticking time bomb who will eventually go off and become a two-legged bed. I don't want her to all of the sudden feel like she's missed out on hooking up and decide to sleep around. I want to marry this girl, but I need your advice. In your own personal experience, am I screwed? No pun intended. Edited June 16, 2013 by a LoveShack.org Moderator Link to post Share on other sites
drifter777 Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 The percentages speak for themselves. Most people would cheat if they could get away with it - I'm not sure what anyone can add. Link to post Share on other sites
Chi townD Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 You go off by posting stats, but you're forgetting an important factor and that's someones free will. When push comes to shove and they are faced with an opportunity to cheat, it's up to them to decide if the risk is worth it. Is the guilt and the pain of discovery worth it. Is losing the one you truely are in love with worth it. Look, I've had opportunities to cheat in my life, but I decided that it wasn't worth it. Yeah, the girls were hot and they were ready. But, they weren't going to pick me up at the train station on Friday nights. They weren't going to cook me my favorite meals just because they knew I was having a bad day. They weren't going to make me laugh and listen to my problems and give me advice to solve them. I already had a girl that was doing that job and it wasn't worth losing her over some selfish gradification. So, I think that you have to give your girl the benefit of the doubt. I think that you need to stop being so insecure about your relationship and NOT give your girl a reason to cheat. Treat her with respect and with loyality. Treat her like a Princess and make time for her. Love her and tell her that she the most beautiful woman in the world to you. And that you're a better man because she came into your life. So, when an opportunity for her to cheat ever comes up. She can decide for herself...that it isn't worth it. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Author uni-versal Posted February 19, 2013 Author Share Posted February 19, 2013 Thank you both for your responses. drifter, you're right, and I guess it's just extremely frustrating to know that this is the kind of world we live in. Even I myself would probably have a hard time turning down the opportunity to cheat with a hot babe if I knew chances were very slim I'd get caught. I consider myself a good person with strong morals and I think I'd be able to resist but I'm just not sure. I guess that's why I have trust issues, because if I can see myself doing it, I can see someone else doing it to me. Chi TownD, I agree with you too. Research shows that people in unhappy marriages are 2.7 times more likely to cheat than those in happy mariages. However, that still leaves quite a few happy wives cheating on their loving husbands. Yes, I know that I need to work on my trust issues and insecurities, but these stats almost make me want to give up on love. You can't tell me that I can put all my heart and soul into someone for years, keep them happy and laughing, help them through hard times and love them, do nothing wrong, only to have them leave for a business trip, kiss me goodbye, have a few drinks at a bar that night and f*ck some other guy. I don't care how guilty they feel about it in the morning, they still did it. I guess that's just life. Link to post Share on other sites
Dark Phoenix Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 She's a ticking time bomb... You wouldn't be feeling this way if you didnt think/feel something was/is wrong Too bad her spreading her wings/legs has nothing to do with free will and is purely emotional/instinctual 1 Link to post Share on other sites
ChessPieceFace Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 (edited) What if you were tied down and f*cked against your will, even? That's called rape. Better keep your comparison away from some women here, they will go ballistic. I view cheating as a spectrum. I don't think that's a very healthy viewpoint. From what I've seen, cheaters are pretty chronic for the most part. I believe that a lot of people are moral and would almost never cheat, while a lot of people are immoral and could have chronic cheating problems. I don't see it as a spectrum at all, I see it as a fairly defined difference in moral compass. Most of the uncertainty comes not from opportunity, but figuring out whether someone has core values or is just pretending to. The percentage of women/men who would have an affair if they knew their spouse wouldn't find out is 68 and 74 percent, respectively. No, the percentage of women / men asked on a survey if they would cheat is 68 / 74 percent. It's a survey, not real life happenings. It seems SLIGHTLY high to me but doesn't really shock me. You seem to think that the other 32 & 26 percent are either lying or naive. Maybe some are, but I also think the opposite is true. I think some of those 68 / 74 percent are answering based on fantasy, rather than facing a reality. Fantasy has no consequences. And I'm talking about even if their partner never found out - they'd still have to live with guilt (at least the majority of them that are not sociopaths.) To me, the prospect of the guilt alone is enough to make me dismiss the possibility of cheating. she blew her homecoming date her last year in high school and he promptly left her at the dance. I know she was hurt by this. My worry is, in my reading online, I have discovered that many people actually believe that it's the shy girls who cheat, because once they come out of their shell, they feel they have missed out on a lot, and just go crazy. Well. I was going to dismiss your concerns as paranoia until I read that your GF blew her prom date. AT the dance? What, like in the bathroom? Yeah, that's not the behavior of someone who I would call a moral person. I'd say it's a definite warning sign. I don't think shyness is the issue. Whether or not she has a moral center is the issue. I can't really tell you that, you'll have to figure it out. You have cause for concern. But in the end, if you don't trust, you don't have a relationship. And NO, I don't believe shy girls or guys cheat more, I'd say the opposite. However, shy girls that blow their prom date at the dance might be. Edited February 20, 2013 by ChessPieceFace Link to post Share on other sites
Author uni-versal Posted February 20, 2013 Author Share Posted February 20, 2013 And NO, I don't believe shy girls or guys cheat more, I'd say the opposite. However, shy girls that blow their prom date at the dance might be. Alright, I may have misrepresented her on this one, I'm pretty sure it wasn't AT the dance. It may have been before, or after, BUT I know that he just left her at the dance. I know this is considered slutty behavior, but among the plethora of dirty skanky ****ing and slutty behavior I have seen at my highschool and college, it's pretty low on the scale. I don't know how old you are, and I don't mean to be insulting of your intelligence or experience but I think it almost expected that girls put out on prom night. That's not to excuse slutty behavior, I'm just setting the atmosphere. I'm going to ask her about this guy. I don't care if it seems weird, I want to know her history and I will ask. However, don't forget that she was a virgin, as a freshman in college, until second semester. A guy I know was hooking up with her before I met her, and by hooking up, I mean making out. He went after her for a few weekends and couldn't get more than a handjob. Eventually he gave up on getting more and stopped talking to her. I can't really be upset at her for "having her fun". If she wasn't in a relationship at the time and neither was the guy, I can't really be upset. I mean, I can be, but it wouldn't really be fair. I think we've all had the experience of going out drinking, and not many of us can say we didn't at least make out with someone. I am not a girl and I have not given oral but I cannot imagine it being a pleasurable experience for the girl so yes, this is why I view blowjobs as kind of slutty, because you're only pleasing a man. Maybe she felt pressured, I don't know. But what I'm really worried about is how she will act in a long term relationship with me. If you only saw a few moments of her life, you'd think she's a slut. She gave a blowjob to a guy that I'm not sure she knew too well, and the first night I met her (at a party) I ended up getting her almost completely naked. She didn't protest to me taking her dress off. We made out. However, when I asked if I could have sex with her, she angrily replied "I just met you!". And like I said, it took quite a while before she would give me a blowjob. Dark Phoenix - is there any reason you feel that way? Because you basically said that all women want instinctually to open their legs. Are you saying I should never be in a relationship because neither women nor men can overcome their sexual desires? Link to post Share on other sites
ChessPieceFace Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 I don't know how old you are, and I don't mean to be insulting of your intelligence or experience but I think it almost expected that girls put out on prom night. I'm not stupid. But you said she blew him "and then" he left her at prom. That implies it happened at prom. If it happened in a private setting, big difference. I don't think a girl would be slutty for giving a BJ after prom. Although she still wouldn't be particularly moral either, if that was just her prom date and not also someone she was seriously dating. Link to post Share on other sites
Author uni-versal Posted February 20, 2013 Author Share Posted February 20, 2013 I'm not stupid. But you said she blew him "and then" he left her at prom. That implies it happened at prom. If it happened in a private setting, big difference. I don't think a girl would be slutty for giving a BJ after prom. Although she still wouldn't be particularly moral either, if that was just her prom date and not also someone she was seriously dating. Update: I asked her about it, and she admitted that she actually had not, and was scared that because I was more experienced sexually that she would seem like a loser if she didn't have any experience. Link to post Share on other sites
veggirl Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 You sound like you have mental issues, honestly. It's okay you have previous sexual experience but when you thought your girl did as well, this made her slutty and prone to cheat in your mind. Wow. Fact is dude your relationship freshman yr of college is gonna end at some point anyway so chill. Link to post Share on other sites
Author uni-versal Posted February 20, 2013 Author Share Posted February 20, 2013 You sound like you have mental issues, honestly. It's okay you have previous sexual experience but when you thought your girl did as well, this made her slutty and prone to cheat in your mind. Wow. Fact is dude your relationship freshman yr of college is gonna end at some point anyway so chill. Okay first of all, I admitted to having trust issues that weren't fair to her. Second of all, the fact that's its first year in college doesn't mean anything and I'm not sure why you think it does. Third, yes, when I thought that she had blown her prom date before or AT the dance just because she felt obligated to, that spoke to her character. Whether or not I'd do the same thing, is not what I was discussing. And if you read my previous posts you'd see that I actually said "I can't really be upset at her for "having her fun". If she wasn't in a relationship at the time and neither was the guy, I can't really be upset. I mean, I can be, but it wouldn't really be fair. I think we've all had the experience of going out drinking, and not many of us can say we didn't at least make out with someone." Link to post Share on other sites
Toddbt12y1 Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 I was presented the opportunity several times from my exes aunt. She wouldn't tell a soul. You know what? I didn't cheat. As a matter of fact she cheated on me. I knew I could get away with it, yet, I didn't. I have a stronger willpower than that. You'd be surprised at how a little childish feeling called love can overcome basic human desires. This isn't a scientific problem. A numbers problem. It's just a plain old morality problem. Shy or not. They cheat if they will too. It's a choice. Link to post Share on other sites
MYCluciferase Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 No, it's not the shy girls that are cheaters, it's the ones who wear purple underwear and/or those who eat low fat muesli. No, seriously, stop trying to generalize. Have fun with your girlfriend, be nice, communicate and be caring. Stop being paranoid; not many people find that to be attractive. Link to post Share on other sites
Toddbt12y1 Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 No, it's not the shy girls that are cheaters, it's the ones who wear purple underwear and/or those who eat low fat muesli. No, seriously, stop trying to generalize. Have fun with your girlfriend, be nice, communicate and be caring. Stop being paranoid; not many people find that to be attractive. LOL with purple underwear comment reminded me of my exes love for purple...awesome. Link to post Share on other sites
Author uni-versal Posted February 20, 2013 Author Share Posted February 20, 2013 I was presented the opportunity several times from my exes aunt. She wouldn't tell a soul. You know what? I didn't cheat. As a matter of fact she cheated on me. I knew I could get away with it, yet, I didn't. I have a stronger willpower than that. You'd be surprised at how a little childish feeling called love can overcome basic human desires. This isn't a scientific problem. A numbers problem. It's just a plain old morality problem. Shy or not. They cheat if they will too. It's a choice. I guess this is where I disagree with most people. I think everything can be characterized scientifically. "love" is simply chemical releases in the brain, evolutionarily developed to encourage lifetime mating (or, at least, long enough to raise offspring). cheating is a biological desire to spread genes and reproduce. I think that there ARE characteristics that make a girl more likely to cheat. I guess you guys couldn't really help me discern if she is the cheating type or not, but I was really just looking for personal experience with shy girls and their tendencies. I guess it really depends on her moral core. Link to post Share on other sites
Toddbt12y1 Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 (edited) I guess this is where I disagree with most people. I think everything can be characterized scientifically. "love" is simply chemical releases in the brain, evolutionarily developed to encourage lifetime mating (or, at least, long enough to raise offspring). cheating is a biological desire to spread genes and reproduce. I think that there ARE characteristics that make a girl more likely to cheat. I guess you guys couldn't really help me discern if she is the cheating type or not, but I was really just looking for personal experience with shy girls and their tendencies. I guess it really depends on her moral core. They did help you to discern. Just they didn't give you the answer you want. I know love is a chemical release: to me, it is too irrational to be scientific...chemicals aside. These characteristics discern is a girl will cheat or not? Sure. But, these same characteristics determine whether anyone will cheat. Besides, we can overcome sexual need to spread genes and thus cheat. Maybe if we where more animalistic yeah. Cheating is a choice. Edited February 20, 2013 by Toddbt12y1 Link to post Share on other sites
MYCluciferase Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 (edited) um, uni-versal, you can't go on about "thinking everything can be characterized scientifically" and then waffle on about "her moral core". Do we have a moral core gene or locus? - no... Come on, if this evolved then there have to be genes that predispose one to cheating or to being faithful, although it's probably going to be pretty hard to tease those out from our upbringing and our parental examples - i.e. either side of Nature Vs Nurture can often be argued by the same evidence... Come on, can't we even cite some quantitative trait loci? What do you mean what am I talking about? What are you talking about? Just kidding... you're right about those pulls for 'lifetime mating' Vs the 'urge to spread our genes with different partners' but surely we all have at least a little of both of those urges within us? Edited February 21, 2013 by MYCluciferase clarification Link to post Share on other sites
kimberlydoll Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Most of the men who said they wouldnt cheat are lying. Men think with their dicks more than women so cheating is more likely among men if the opportunities exist...usually women have more opportunities because so many guys want sex. You are worried about your gf cheating when you admit yourself the likelihood of you cheating if a "hot babe offered herself" is high....wow, I dont even know what to say to you OP other than I hope your girlfriend finds this thread and reads it. Any guy who admits to me hed prob cheat if given a chance is a goner in my opinion, because I find those men are usually the ones that DO cheat I kind of dont believe in relationships anymore for this exact reason you post (the men who said they wouldnt cheat....most are LYING) because I think less than 10% of men wouldnt cheat if they didnt have the opportunity of not getting caught. Men are swayed by attractive women no matter how great their girlfriend is while girls tend to be swayed more only if they arent being satisfied in their relationship. There are exceptions to this rule but this generalization is true and scientific studies back me up on this. Over 50% of married men that cheat get sex at least once a week from their wives who are also emotionally supportive...only 10% of married women who cheat say the same. Basically, men think with their dicks more while women think with their emotions so for us girls, being a good girlfriend is no guarantee to stop her man from cheating because fresh vagina is too hard to resist. The other poster who said prevent cheating by being an awesome boyfriend is right...not so easy for us girls though Tell me, have you had any casual sex experience? Probably, considering how much you like to party and drink and yet you are judging your gf for that... If theres anything Ive learned about men recently, its that they are huge hypocrites Link to post Share on other sites
kimberlydoll Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 If you only saw a few moments of her life, you'd think she's a slut. She gave a blowjob to a guy that I'm not sure she knew too well, and the first night I met her (at a party) I ended up getting her almost completely naked. She didn't protest to me taking her dress off. We made out. However, when I asked if I could have sex with her, she angrily replied "I just met you!". And like I said, it took quite a while before she would give me a blowjob. Dark Phoenix - is there any reason you feel that way? Because you basically said that all women want instinctually to open their legs. Are you saying I should never be in a relationship because neither women nor men can overcome their sexual desires? You are a slut OP if you think she is. The first night you met her, you tried to go all the way with her. How is that not slutty? Double standard. Guys who participate in casual sex alot (have one night stands and friends-with-benefits) are guys who dont value sex emotionally. When a guy pressures me for sex before we get to know each other I write him off You men need to get over yourselves and stop judging women for things you do all the time and think is okay....grow up! Link to post Share on other sites
Toddbt12y1 Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Soo glad sister that you imply most. I am sure you are including me. But get this straight: I am above thinking with my dick when it comes to cheating. Gender warring people. Is that all LS is? I don't care about biological pressures. I don't care about this bull**** idealist view on one genders apparent weakness to their on cardinal desires. Some people are capable of fully negating such wicked desires. How do you know who lies and doesn't? Sure,most the world would, doesn't mean all. Yeah, you said "most." Appreciate it. But I am far from lying. I could say the same about females. Who are you girls fooling? It's easy these days to see that horny(thinks with her pussy) girl. No gender is exempt from cheating or being overly sexualized. Hell my gfs aunt walked naked to me...I said hell no and left(she was trouble.) Some people don't get it... It's called willpower. Doing the right thing despite all that biological bull. Threads about females being sluts. Males thinking with their dicks. May as well as say THEY'RE ALL ****ED UP. Welcome to the human population Flame on lsers flame on. Look I brought marshmellows? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
kimberlydoll Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Soo glad sister that you imply most. I am sure you are including me. But get this straight: I am above thinking with my dick when it comes to cheating. Gender warring people. Is that all LS is? I don't care about biological pressures. I don't care about this bull**** idealist view on one genders apparent weakness to their on cardinal desires. Some people are capable of fully negating such wicked desires. How do you know who lies and doesn't? Sure,most the world would, doesn't mean all. Yeah, you said "most." Appreciate it. But I am far from lying. I could say the same about females. Who are you girls fooling? It's easy these days to see that horny(thinks with her pussy) girl. No gender is exempt from cheating or being overly sexualized. Hell my gfs aunt walked naked to me...I said hell no and left(she was trouble.) Some people don't get it... It's called willpower. Doing the right thing despite all that biological bull. Threads about females being sluts. Males thinking with their dicks. May as well as say THEY'RE ALL ****ED UP. Welcome to the human population Flame on lsers flame on. Look I brought marshmellows? Well this is my kind of man right here... Ill bring hersheys and graham crackers Link to post Share on other sites
Author uni-versal Posted February 21, 2013 Author Share Posted February 21, 2013 Most of the men who said they wouldnt cheat are lying. Men think with their dicks more than women so cheating is more likely among men if the opportunities exist...usually women have more opportunities because so many guys want sex. You are worried about your gf cheating when you admit yourself the likelihood of you cheating if a "hot babe offered herself" is high....wow, I dont even know what to say to you OP other than I hope your girlfriend finds this thread and reads it. Any guy who admits to me hed prob cheat if given a chance is a goner in my opinion, because I find those men are usually the ones that DO cheat I kind of dont believe in relationships anymore for this exact reason you post (the men who said they wouldnt cheat....most are LYING) because I think less than 10% of men wouldnt cheat if they didnt have the opportunity of not getting caught. Men are swayed by attractive women no matter how great their girlfriend is while girls tend to be swayed more only if they arent being satisfied in their relationship. There are exceptions to this rule but this generalization is true and scientific studies back me up on this. Over 50% of married men that cheat get sex at least once a week from their wives who are also emotionally supportive...only 10% of married women who cheat say the same. Basically, men think with their dicks more while women think with their emotions so for us girls, being a good girlfriend is no guarantee to stop her man from cheating because fresh vagina is too hard to resist. The other poster who said prevent cheating by being an awesome boyfriend is right...not so easy for us girls though Tell me, have you had any casual sex experience? Probably, considering how much you like to party and drink and yet you are judging your gf for that... If theres anything Ive learned about men recently, its that they are huge hypocrites Okay, holy ****, you obviously didn't read the entire thread. Here's what I said that you only read half of: Even I myself would probably have a hard time turning down the opportunity to cheat with a hot babe if I knew chances were very slim I'd get caught. I consider myself a good person with strong morals and I think I'd be able to resist but I'm just not sure. I didn't say the chances were "high". I said I think I'd be able to resist. Second of all, to answer your question, no I have not had any casual sex experience. Third of all, your implication that guys can fool proof their relationship by being an awesome boyfriend - well, this is actually not even remotely scientifically correct. Here is a link that proves my point: HowStuffWorks "Happy Marriages Don't Prevent Affairs" Note: "There are a few studies which indicate that women are more attuned to small problems within the relationship that spell doom, and that's why they pursue affairs. A 2008 study found that half of women reported marital problems before an affair, while only a quarter of men reported problems [source: Jayson]." HALF. Half of women reported problems before their affair. Yes, it's still a higher number than the quarter of men who reported problems before their affair, but it's still only half. So this: while girls tend to be swayed more only if they arent being satisfied in their relationship. is NOT true. Not to mention the fact that the study seems to point out that even a "minor problem" will cause women to pursue affairs. Now THIS is where you really pissed me off: Guys who participate in casual sex alot (have one night stands and friends-with-benefits) are guys who dont value sex emotionally. That's the dumbest ****ing thing I've ever heard. I value sex emotionally, much more than my friends do (or at least based on what they say about sex). However, my lack of casual sex experience is just a coincidence. If I wasn't in a relationship, I'd gladly have a one night stand. This doesn't mean I wouldn't value sex with someone I love emotionally, it just means I am human. We all have sex drives and needs. Are you saying that the opposite is true, that any woman who has had a few one night stands isn't capable of looking at sex as a loving, passionate act and can only see it as dirty sweaty sex with a random person? When I was with my previous girlfriend, we started having sex before we were in love. The sex got much better when we got closer, not because it was physically better, but because we were emotionally closer. When I said "If you only saw my girlfriend for a few moments, you'd think she was a slut", I wasn't saying that I wasn't acting like a whore too. It was merely a statement of fact. You made assumptions. Seriously, I didn't come here to get lectured by another feminist who's dictionary consists of the words "double-standard". I KNOW girls have the same rights as guys. I never ever ever ever ever said they didn't. In fact, IF YOU READ THE ENTIRE THREAD YOU WOULD HAVE SEEN THIS: I can't really be upset at her for "having her fun". If she wasn't in a relationship at the time and neither was the guy, I can't really be upset. I mean, I can be, but it wouldn't really be fair. I think we've all had the experience of going out drinking, and not many of us can say we didn't at least make out with someone. On a separate note, I was discussing the fact that I was upset with these statistics with a female friend of mine and she brought up a good point: The numbers may actually be lower than reported. It's just a survey, and many people probably answered out of fantasy, but come time for the real thing, most may not have the guts to follow through with it. Even if you don't agree with her, don't forget that 68 PERCENT OF WOMEN STILL SAID YES. SO while you can blabber on about how "The other poster who said prevent cheating by being an awesome boyfriend is right..." but it's just not true at all.... Unless, of course, you think that 68% of all husbands or boyfriends are tools and that's why their wives cheat. I wish we could really just leave the whole entire sexism thing out of this. I mean for god's sake, all I really wanted was an answer to the question of whether or not shy girls, or hell, shy GUYS too, tend to break out of their shells and become cheating lying scumbags. That was all. 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ChessPieceFace Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Most of the men who said they wouldnt cheat are lying. ... Any guy who admits to me hed prob cheat if given a chance is a goner in my opinion, because I find those men are usually the ones that DO cheat So if they say they will cheat they're "goners" and if they say they won't cheat they're "liars." Wow, you're really setting yourself up for happiness there. What a piece of work. Link to post Share on other sites
Author uni-versal Posted February 21, 2013 Author Share Posted February 21, 2013 So if they say they will cheat they're "goners" and if they say they won't cheat they're "liars." Wow, you're really setting yourself up for happiness there. What a piece of work. i know right? Link to post Share on other sites
kimberlydoll Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 (edited) So if they say they will cheat they're "goners" and if they say they won't cheat they're "liars." Wow, you're really setting yourself up for happiness there. What a piece of work. I think the majority of men WOULD cheat if they knew there was no chance theyd get caught. I have had multiple chances like that and I never did. I had a really cute guy come onto me when I was in a bad relationship that was slowing ending ( my boyfriend would have never found out due to the way I met this guy ) and I still didnt take it. I dont think many men would do that if the roles were reversed. Most girls live in this dreamworld where they think their sweet boyfriend would never do that but men do have problems resisting fresh vagina. Wish the world wasnt this way of course, but it is what it is. Im sorry if it offends you that I accept reality And to answer your question I dont think its so much shy girls cheating rather than insecure, immature girls. If someone is shy, but mature and sure of themselves (by the way I fall into this category. I get told all the time Im way too mature for men my age and that I have a high level of self respect...but I do consider myself to be shy. Id rather be alone or with close friends than meeting new people) I dont think theyd cheat. I think alot of cheating with both sexes has more to do with self esteem and morals than personality...Ive seen both introverted and extroverted people of both sexes cheat Edited February 21, 2013 by kimberlydoll Link to post Share on other sites
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