Lonely Ronin Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 You can upgrade your beauty. You can't upgrade your height. So no, they aren't comparable. Bad bone structure is bad bone structure, some things can't be upgraded. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
kaylan Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 Bad bone structure is bad bone structure, some things can't be upgraded. Ill start providing a face punching service. Where I pummel someone until their jaw, cheek bone, and nose fracture, then Ill re-set their bones to create a more attractive structure. Ill be rich:bunny: 1 Link to post Share on other sites
ltjg45 Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 Ill start providing a face punching service. Where I pummel someone until their jaw, cheek bone, and nose fracture, then Ill re-set their bones to create a more attractive structure. Ill be rich:bunny: I will make sure you are appropriately paid for your service if the offer is still available. Hell, I can't get any uglier than I am right now. Link to post Share on other sites
man_in_the_box Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 Short is relative. I'm 5'11" and below average (for this country). Move to another country if it bothers you that much. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
JuneJulySeptember Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 (edited) Yes, many other physical traits are seen as undesirable to SOME. But that is the key word. Some. But for short guys, you almost NEVER hear a woman say she prefers small guys. Very rare. An analogy would be black women. Black women are sometimes seen as to be undesirable by a lot of non-black men (even though I find them attractive). I have seen threads where men echo this sentiment (just as women have against short men here) and black female posters FLIP the f@ck out. So, that is some of what you are seeing here. Before you criticize someone, always put yourself in their situation. I have read your posts so I know your mentalities and priorities. Some posters like Wholigan, if he were 5'2", I can see him being OK with it and handling it pretty well. Some of you others who are dishing criticism, you wouldn't be able to handle it if you were significantly less physically attractive. You'd be whining worse than the short men here on this forum. I can just tell. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/03/nyregion/40-years-after-an-acid-attack-a-life-well-lived.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0 Think about that for a second. What would happen if someone burned you with acid in the face tomorrow? How would your life change? How would you handle the fact that you are now physically unattractive to the majority? What would that do to your sense of attraction? ALWAYS put yourself in other people's shoes before you criticize them. Edited March 9, 2013 by JuneJulySeptember 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Phoe Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 Do I like tall men? YES. Do I refuse to date men who are short? NO. It's true that my ideal man is above 6 feet tall.... but being 5'8 myself makes me a bit taller than average for a girl. Some guys think I'm too tall. Why on earth would I be judgmental towards a guy for being short when I'm a bit overly tall myself? If I was shorter this surely wouldn't be an issue, but I'm not short, so I refuse to let height be an issue in my dating life! My first boyfriend was shorter than me. My 2nd boyfriend was my height. 4 Link to post Share on other sites
somedude81 Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 Do I like tall men? YES. Do I refuse to date men who are short? NO. It's true that my ideal man is above 6 feet tall.... but being 5'8 myself makes me a bit taller than average for a girl. Some guys think I'm too tall. Why on earth would I be judgmental towards a guy for being short when I'm a bit overly tall myself? If I was shorter this surely wouldn't be an issue, but I'm not short, so I refuse to let height be an issue in my dating life! My first boyfriend was shorter than me. My 2nd boyfriend was my height. Hey, we're the same height when I'm in my three inch heels! Normally I tend to prefer girls my height to a little shorter. Although the last girl I was nuts for was 5'8. Seeing as how she absolutely did not want to date me, I can only assume my height was important to her. I won't mind dating a girl who is a couple of inches taller than me, but she has to be 100% OK with it. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Phoe Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 Normally I tend to prefer girls my height to a little shorter. Although the last girl I was nuts for was 5'8. See, these are perfect examples. The both of us have a height preference but it's definitely no deal-breaker. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
MrCastle Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 See, these are perfect examples. The both of us have a height preference but it's definitely no deal-breaker. Which is my overall point. Preference means you may prefer one thing, but will go for another if it is under the right conditions. In other words, you prefer to date tall men, but if a shorter man caught your eye, you wouldn't object. Which is the difference between people like you, and those that are shallow. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
iKING Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 Which is my overall point. Preference means you may prefer one thing, but will go for another if it is under the right conditions. In other words, you prefer to date tall men, but if a shorter man caught your eye, you wouldn't object. Which is the difference between people like you, and those that are shallow. True statement. I'm the exact same height as Phoe and I've yet to have it count against me with a woman I've been interested in, but I also don't go for shallow women, so I suppose I wouldn't have run into that issue anyways. Looks are temporary, years down the line they fade, and many years down the line we're all wrinkled prunes. Everyone is beautiful to somebody, so therefore everyone is beautiful. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
MrCastle Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 True statement. I'm the exact same height as Phoe and I've yet to have it count against me with a woman I've been interested in, but I also don't go for shallow women, so I suppose I wouldn't have run into that issue anyways. Looks are temporary, years down the line they fade, and many years down the line we're all wrinkled prunes. Everyone is beautiful to somebody, so therefore everyone is beautiful. Be careful. Anytime I use that word I get attacked. On LS, shallow people do not exist. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
iKING Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 Be careful. Anytime I use that word I get attacked. On LS, shallow people do not exist. *Patiently awaits onslaught* 2 Link to post Share on other sites
HoneyBadgerDontCare Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 I just don't get why my posts and the posts of other short successful men go unnoticed. I think it is because those that are unsuccessful refuse to take the blinders off. I had one woman pretty much break down the fourth wall and tell me "sorry but I'm a big girl (5'9), I tend to go for the tall dudes" I laughed it off and kept talking to her anyway. A few weeks later we kind of cooled down and she was blowing up my phone asking me why I hadn't been talking to her and that she missed me--she wrote me a poem. I could have gone in for the kill and hooked up with her but I thought if she was already clingy before we even did anything, she'd turn into a stalker after the fact, and I didn't want to play with her emotions. The fact remains, even a woman who admitted she dated taller men and rejected me intially because of that fact, still ended up wanting the D. This. I just made a post about how I'm short and I get TONS of women....even get them to do stuff for me (like drive me around and buy me drinks/dinner). No response. It's as if I never said it. If my height was that big of an issue, I wouldn't be able to get away with the things I get away with. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
JuneJulySeptember Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 Why on earth would I be judgmental towards a guy for being short when I'm a bit overly tall myself? Wow. I cannot believe I just heard someone say that. It's amazing that you are still single. Some guy is going to be really lucky. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
ltjg45 Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 Wow. I cannot believe I just heard someone say that. It's amazing that you are still single. Some guy is going to be really lucky. You can say that again. She's my kind of woman. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
somedude81 Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 This. I just made a post about how I'm short and I get TONS of women....even get them to do stuff for me (like drive me around and buy me drinks/dinner). No response. It's as if I never said it. If my height was that big of an issue, I wouldn't be able to get away with the things I get away with. Because it seems that for every short guy that gets women, five don't. Here's how it works for me. I'm a short guy, almost 5'6 and I do absolutely horrible with women. It's a commonly accepted belief that women prefer tall men. With that belief in mind, combined with me not being able to get women and knowing that I'm short, it's very easy to make the conclusion that I'm not getting women because I'm short. It's also something that I can never prove wrong or right because I will never get taller. All it comes down to, I read that a short guy can get a girls. I can't get girls. What happens to me has more meaning, more importance in my life than what happens to somebody else. In other words, I don't care that some short guys do great with women, I can't, and that is all that matters to me. Link to post Share on other sites
HoneyBadgerDontCare Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 Bros bros bros. Instead of whining about the problem, let's focus on potential solutions: 1) Be cool with it. 2) Move to a country where you aren't short. 3) Get leg lengthening surgery. Those are your 3 options. Link to post Share on other sites
ltjg45 Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 Hell, I don't even know my height. My ID shows I'm 5ft 6 but my brother tells me I'm 5ft 11. In all honestly, I don't really want to know and I don't want to know whether or not that is "socially acceptable" either. I got enough problems in my life to add "height" to my ever-growing list. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
HoneyBadgerDontCare Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 Because it seems that for every short guy that gets women, five don't. Here's how it works for me. I'm a short guy, almost 5'6 and I do absolutely horrible with women. It's a commonly accepted belief that women prefer tall men. With that belief in mind, combined with me not being able to get women and knowing that I'm short, it's very easy to make the conclusion that I'm not getting women because I'm short. It's also something that I can never prove wrong or right because I will never get taller. All it comes down to, I read that a short guy can get a girls. I can't get girls. What happens to me has more meaning, more importance in my life than what happens to somebody else. In other words, I don't care that some short guys do great with women, I can't, and that is all that matters to me. So learn how to get good with women then. I think you don't get girls because of your attitude. You're very negative. I go out to bars and clubs often. I'm sure I get rejected, but I don't really pay attention to it. I don't notice it if/when it happens and I don't analyze it afterwards. I always seem to end up with a girl. We're the same height, man. There's a reason why I do well and you don't....and it obviously has nothing to do with height. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
somedude81 Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 So learn how to get good with women then. Sure, I'll get right on it. Right after I learn how to make a billion dollars, I think you don't get girls because of your attitude. You're very negative. Sorry, you've never met me and have no idea how I am when I interact with other people, especially women. If you talked to any girl I have ever known, none of them would describe me as negative. Odds are they would say, nice, funny, maybe shy/awkward. I go out to bars and clubs often. I'm sure I get rejected, but I don't really pay attention to it. I don't notice it if/when it happens and I don't analyze it afterwards. I've never been one for the bar game. The vast majority of girls I've been rejected by were friends, coworkers, classmates and other acquaintances. I always seem to end up with a girl. I've never gotten a girl. Ever. We're the same height, man. There's a reason why I do well and you don't....and it obviously has nothing to do with height. So you think that if you were taller, you would not do any better with women? Link to post Share on other sites
ltjg45 Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 So you think that if you were taller, you would not do any better with women? No. What he's saying is that if he was taller, it wouldn't have made a single bit of difference at the end. Considering we are both down when it comes to dating, there is one thing we do differ: You don't believe him. I certainly can. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Phoe Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 Wow. I cannot believe I just heard someone say that. It's amazing that you are still single. Some guy is going to be really lucky. You can say that again. She's my kind of woman. aww, such kindness I hope that once i find that lucky guy that I can consider myself just as lucky to have found him. And dammit, if he is all of 5 feet tall then so be it! 3 Link to post Share on other sites
ltjg45 Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 aww, such kindness I hope that once i find that lucky guy that I can consider myself just as lucky to have found him. And dammit, if he is all of 5 feet tall then so be it! Well then, I need to speed things up on my end because I want you myself. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
MrCastle Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 aww, such kindness I hope that once i find that lucky guy that I can consider myself just as lucky to have found him. And dammit, if he is all of 5 feet tall then so be it! You are a doll. Wish some of the other members who posted previously could read the last two pages. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
somedude81 Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 Well then, I need to speed things up on my end because I want you myself. Hah! I think you're 10th in line with guys on this forum. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
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