An ironic thing I've noticed on LS

[SJC2008]

The number one thing I see with "average", guys, is that A) they aren't that great with talking to women on a social level, and B) they don't do anything to stick out from the crowd. When they get better in one of these areas their fortunes change.

 

Meaning they can't make regular conversation with women?? Elaborate.

[todreaminblue]

Women are weebles and men are wobbles. Regardless, they all can fall down.

 

"I got it worse than you" is a sad point of contention. Don't people have better things to do, like...go out and try to meet potential partners?

 

 

and if some men can be wobbles but have weeble qualities and some women can have wobble qualities.......

 

 

and the iq question would read.......

 

if all men date weeble women what percentage of weeble women would want to date wobble men and if weeble women have a capacity to seek out weeble wobble men what does that percentage signify about the human race....what babies would they have and what would the population growth be.........and i would put as an answer to that iq question.....

 

 

 

what does it matter about what i think about who dates who as long as they are happy who they date. and they should marry before they have that weeble wobble baby....and honor their marriage vows as to not populate the world with divorce papers...do you know how many trees they kill now to make paper for divorce.......this iq question was officially a tree killer for nothing.......i hate those i q questions then they cart me off to the funny farm for being fruity and stamp me insane.......possibly a danger to the paper companies financial status.....ok going now before the men in white come a knockin...toodles.......deb

[JuneJulySeptember]

Lol.

 

I expected this thread to get very few responses. Just to be clear, I was thinking of a few select female posters not the entire female collective. I don't want to name them just because, but I have noticed the trend.

 

They get tons of attention, yet complain about men being shallow. It's kind of funny. Those regular lurkers know EXACTLY which posters I'm talking about.

[todreaminblue]

Lol.

 

I expected this thread to get very few responses. Just to be clear, I was thinking of a few select female posters not the entire female collective. I don't want to name them just because, but I have noticed the trend.

 

They get tons of attention, yet complain about men being shallow. It's kind of funny. Those regular lurkers know EXACTLY which posters I'm talking about.

 

 

am i lurking.......you are makingn me paranoid...smilin atcha...... but a weeble just doesnt care..am i a weeble.....i must be ....i lurk on...hugs....deb

[ScreamingTrees]

two points you seem to not grasp:

 

1. options you don't want are not options, they are a problem/issue that need to be handled. Thus more work and stress they didn't want.

 

So basically, they get "dealt" with, and come here to whine about how they can't get anyone. It all makes perfect sense now..

[Imajerk17]

HOW many times has this topic been covered??

 

(1) I am a guy and I go for looks. Some of the women I find really physically attractive though are what many others would consider to be "average". And some of the women whose looks don't do much for me would be many another guy's "10".

 

(2) If you think dating is hard for you, imagine how hard it is for a physically unattractive woman. She might be the sweetest thing in the world personality-wise but most guys would hardly even look her way. (See it isn't only women I get on for their choices here. )

 

(3) You're still not convinced you don't have it so bad? Be thankful you don't have baggage in the form of alimony payments (male or female) or being the head of the family where the child isn't even yours. OR that you never had your s/o (boy or girl) leave you for someone else.

 

Stop whining! It's time for you to buck up.

Edited March 7, 2013 by Imajerk17

[JuneJulySeptember]

HOW many times has this topic been covered??

 

(1) I am a guy and I go for looks. Some of the women I find really physically attractive though are what many others would consider to be "average". And some of the women whose looks don't do much for me would be many another guy's "10".

 

(2) If you think dating is hard for you, imagine how hard it is for a physically unattractive woman. She might be the sweetest thing in the world personality-wise but most guys would hardly even look her way. (See it isn't only women I get on for their choices here. )

 

Stop whining! It's time for you to buck up.

 

This thread actually has nothing to do with all that stuff. Posters here are the ones that turn it into such.

 

They don't even bother to read the post.

 

I was just wondering why women who have no trouble attracting men are complaining about men being shallow.

 

And BTW, I have a girlfriend tough guy.

Edited March 7, 2013 by JuneJulySeptember

[Fallen Petals]

Lol.

 

I expected this thread to get very few responses. Just to be clear, I was thinking of a few select female posters not the entire female collective. I don't want to name them just because, but I have noticed the trend.

 

They get tons of attention, yet complain about men being shallow. It's kind of funny. Those regular lurkers know EXACTLY which posters I'm talking about.

 

I'm not a regular lurker for this type of thread...I'm a self acceptance kick not a "identify the problems about my physical appearance that cannot be changed without surgery" kick...

 

That said - you should totally call the b!tches out!

[JuneJulySeptember]

Many admirers? Where?

 

I wasn't thinking of you.

[SJC2008]

And BTW, I have a girlfriend tough guy.

 

So things worked out with that woman you met? Glad to here that!

[ltjg45]

(2) If you think dating is hard for you, imagine how hard it is for a physically unattractive woman. She might be the sweetest thing in the world personality-wise but most guys would hardly even look her way. (See it isn't only women I get on for their choices here.)

 

I didn't know making myself stomach their lack of looks is going to make both my or her life better, even with such a great personality.

 

I prefer not to be single but I rather be single than to look at a female whose looks is so bad, I have a good chance of vomiting. While I don't see those women too often, I see them enough that being single, in my mind, is not so bad.

 

After all, I could be with "them" instead.

 

This also didn't consider that her "great personality" may not mash well with mine. If she is more into religion and I'm more into gaming, it doesn't matter if we have great personality or not. It's just not going to work.

[Lonely Ronin]

Meaning they can't make regular conversation with women?? Elaborate.

 

Without writing a book, the best way I can think to explain it, is they can't really talk to a woman for very long without talking about her or themselves. They can't talk to a woman deeply because they don't have much in common with her, and things they do they are afraid to open up about. they best example I can give is the last woman I dated, we spend the first 4 or 5 hrs talking about a city that we had both lived in an, what we liked, disliked & missed about it. I know very few men that can do this, all the ones I know that can do very well with women.

[Lonely Ronin]

no I don't trust you just for saying 'trust me'. known what and when to say it is part of the dating game and tied in with lust and chemistry. a man can treat a woman like a human and be the nicest guy but if he doesn't know how the dating game is played he will remain single.

 

You realize you are agreeing with me right?

[SJC2008]

Without writing a book, the best way I can think to explain it, is they can't really talk to a woman for very long without talking about her or themselves. They can't talk to a woman deeply because they don't have much in common with her, and things they do they are afraid to open up about. they best example I can give is the last woman I dated, we spend the first 4 or 5 hrs talking about a city that we had both lived in an, what we liked, disliked & missed about it. I know very few men that can do this, all the ones I know that can do very well with women.

 

Not the silver bullet I was looking for lol. Seems pretty simple to me, sounds like yall had a regular conversation about something. I don't see how that's knowing how to talk to a woman. So you're saying don't talk about myself or her??

[todreaminblue]

I didn't know making myself stomach their lack of looks is going to make both my or her life better, even with such a great personality.

 

I prefer not to be single but I rather be single than to look at a female whose looks is so bad, I have a good chance of vomiting. While I don't see those women too often, I see them enough that being single, in my mind, is not so bad.

 

After all, I could be with "them" instead.

 

This also didn't consider that her "great personality" may not mash well with mine. If she is more into religion and I'm more into gaming, it doesn't matter if we have great personality or not. It's just not going to work.

 

 

vomiting by looking at someone you deem as unattractive....nice one.classic....

 

 

...i am so glad i have unattractive status that people like you would feel the need to empty their stomach...i have purpose...yaay.

 

just when i have thought myself a waste of space deeming my unattractive outer appearance to members of the male species such as yoruself....i now have purpose on this planet so thankyou muchly....kisssssssssses..heres the bucket..anyhoo have a great day....deb

[Lonely Ronin]

Not the silver bullet I was looking for lol. Seems pretty simple to me, sounds like yall had a regular conversation about something. I don't see how that's knowing how to talk to a woman. So you're saying don't talk about myself or her??

 

First off their is no silver bullet. The issue not just about talking about your self or her, it's being able to have an open and flowing conversation with her about something that you have in common. I ideally it's something your both passionate about. Most guys can't do this. If they are on a date with a woman the find really attractive, they either verbally diarrhea at her about themselves, as they are trying to impress her, or they drill her with questions and then overly compliment her about what she says. Basically they spend the entire date trying to prove they are worthy of her time in one way or another.

 

No one is immune to this, even I do it now and then when I'm really attracted to a woman. I have to catch myself, and be like get a hold of yourself man, you barely know her, stop getting carried away. I try to always approach it like this, I might have asked her out, but she has to impress me just as much as I have to impress her. I have found that this leads to a much more relaxing situation for me and a much more pleasant conversation overall. However, this means you need to be ready to talk about just about anything, and you can't hold back. That means not trying to say what you think she wants to hear, or what you want her to hear.

 

I just stopped dating a woman after our 4th date, and I'm sure most here would say I was crazy, because she was really pretty. But simply put, by the 4th date I didn't see enough signs from her of interest so I was done. Having a one on one conversation with her, was like pulling teeth.

[ltjg45]

vomiting by looking at someone you deem as unattractive....nice one.classic....

 

 

...i am so glad i have unattractive status that people like you would feel the need to empty their stomach...i have purpose...yaay.

 

just when i have thought myself a waste of space deeming my unattractive outer appearance to members of the male species such as yoruself....i now have purpose on this planet so thankyou muchly....kisssssssssses..heres the bucket..anyhoo have a great day....deb

 

Do you enjoy taking things out of context because I don't recall targeting you with the comment?

[Untouchable_Fire]

But is any of that caused by women being too shallow? I don't think so--esp because another guy exactly as physically attractive, or materially successful, could have better luck simply because he is naturally social.

 

I don't think so. I think in many ways both genders are equally shallow in different ways.

 

See my later points about having to deal with the unwanted attention.

 

Not really worthy datapoints. For every woman I meet that is turned off by a provocative comment about her boobs there is one that is turned on by it. Successful guys do what works, that is what makes them successful.

 

At some point, you have to say F it, "I'm going to make something happen."

Men, are expected to "chase", and thus it's our job to do what it takes(within reason, red no lying or manipulating) to succeed. Honestly, I think if half the guys on LS stopped focusing on life not being fare, and focused on obtaining what they want, they wouldn't be on LS in the first place.

 

Dating is like everything else in life... success breeds more success and failure breeds more failure. Unless your down for some kind of dating socialism... you will just have to settle for being idealistcally wrong.

 

I'd say your are definitely correct that their attitudes prevent the changes and effort required to turn things around. It's a down spiral that cannot often be stopped.

[todreaminblue]

Do you enjoy taking things out of context because I don't recall targeting you with the comment?

 

 

no you didnt target me at all, you were cdescribing how you feel like vomiting when you see a woman who you deem as unattractive i gave you a call back saying thank you for that....why did you feel the need to share what you did about your disgust i could call it at unattractive women....or who you see as unattractive..what context was that written in or the gist of yoru post was to prove what?..on a board that has all types of women on it......and you class my opinion as out of context...what context was your post in and was it necessary for you to post that......i made a joke out of it yes...i wasnt serious..havent been serious in many of my posts i hav ewritten this morning.........were you being serious about wanting to throw up when you see someone you find repulsive????? was your context seriousness...........deb

[SJC2008]

First off their is no silver bullet. The issue not just about talking about your self or her, it's being able to have an open and flowing conversation with her about something that you have in common. I ideally it's something your both passionate about. Most guys can't do this. If they are on a date with a woman the find really attractive, they either verbally diarrhea at her about themselves, as they are trying to impress her, or they drill her with questions and then overly compliment her about what she says. Basically they spend the entire date trying to prove they are worthy of her time in one way or another.

 

No one is immune to this, even I do it now and then when I'm really attracted to a woman. I have to catch myself, and be like get a hold of yourself man, you barely know her, stop getting carried away. I try to always approach it like this, I might have asked her out, but she has to impress me just as much as I have to impress her. I have found that this leads to a much more relaxing situation for me and a much more pleasant conversation overall. However, this means you need to be ready to talk about just about anything, and you can't hold back. That means not trying to say what you think she wants to hear, or what you want her to hear.

 

I just stopped dating a woman after our 4th date, and I'm sure most here would say I was crazy, because she was really pretty. But simply put, by the 4th date I didn't see enough signs from her of interest so I was done. Having a one on one conversation with her, was like pulling teeth.

 

As much as I appreciate your response, most of it is obvious dating etequette IMO. I never act like that on dates. I'm actually surprised that most guys do this or is it that you think most guys do this? Anyway, I'm on the same page with you with the last woman you dated. Sure, she's attractive but if there's no chemistry it wouldn't be right to keep dating her for her looks/body until something better came along so kudos to you!

[ltjg45]

no you didnt target me at all, you were cdescribing how you feel like vomiting when you see a woman who you deem as unattractive i gave you a call back saying thank you for that....why did you feel the need to share what you did about your disgust i could call it at unattractive women....or who you see as unattractive..what context was that written in or the gist of yoru post was to prove what?..on a board that has all types of women on it......and you class my opinion as out of context...what context was your post in and was it necessary for you to post that......i made a joke out of it yes...i wasnt serious..havent been serious in many of my posts i hav ewritten this morning.........were you being serious about wanting to throw up when you see someone you find repulsive????? was your context seriousness...........deb

 

If you want my honest answer:

 

No, for the most part, I wasn't serious that I would vomit at the sight of it (because I doubt I can pull that off in public even if I wanted to) however I will do all I can to avoid contact with her.

 

If she does approach me, I would just ignore her the best I can or, if I have to say anything, tell her that I can't help her in any way, shape, or form. Hopefully, by then, she gets the idea.

 

I hope. Some people really doesn't get the idea and that's frightening.

[Lonely Ronin]

As much as I appreciate your response, most of it is obvious dating etequette IMO. I never act like that on dates. I'm actually surprised that most guys do this or is it that you think most guys do this?

 

It's a running joke at my local coffee shop among regulars, that it's the best place in town to watch first dates. I'm also out at bars with friends regularly, and I probably witness 3 or 4 dates a week. I witness a lot more dates going wrong than I do right.

[Necris]

First off their is no silver bullet. The issue not just about talking about your self or her, it's being able to have an open and flowing conversation with her about something that you have in common. I ideally it's something your both passionate about. Most guys can't do this. If they are on a date with a woman the find really attractive, they either verbally diarrhea at her about themselves, as they are trying to impress her, or they drill her with questions and then overly compliment her about what she says. Basically they spend the entire date trying to prove they are worthy of her time in one way or another.

 

No one is immune to this, even I do it now and then when I'm really attracted to a woman. I have to catch myself, and be like get a hold of yourself man, you barely know her, stop getting carried away. I try to always approach it like this, I might have asked her out, but she has to impress me just as much as I have to impress her. I have found that this leads to a much more relaxing situation for me and a much more pleasant conversation overall. However, this means you need to be ready to talk about just about anything, and you can't hold back. That means not trying to say what you think she wants to hear, or what you want her to hear.

 

I just stopped dating a woman after our 4th date, and I'm sure most here would say I was crazy, because she was really pretty. But simply put, by the 4th date I didn't see enough signs from her of interest so I was done. Having a one on one conversation with her, was like pulling teeth.

 

For me I rarely ever get to the point I can even go on a single date with any woman, though I'm usually capable of going on 1 to 2 dates a year. And while on dates I'm usually pretty good at keeping a conversation flowing. Really talking to women isn't all that hard. Unfortunately after the date she will always tell me she had a great time, and she'll just fade away from my life and go out with some other guy.

 

Also come now, of course the average woman has more options than the average man, she may not like her options but if she was just trying to get just a guy she probably could especially if women actually approached. Most guys don't have that luxury of their options coming to them and choosing which one they want, not to say dating is easier for men or women but the whole who has more options I think is in favor of women.

Edited March 7, 2013 by Necris

[Mme. Chaucer]

Wow! A thread about how much more difficult it is to be male than female! What a novelty! :bunny:

[Els]

Serious request to the mods: Can all of these sort of threads be moved to gender/sexual identity, please? Would be much easier to filter out all the gender-warring threads if they were all kept in one place.