Do I not look as I'm suppose to?

[napy666]

 

People guys, girls, tell me time and time again that I look like a man. I have a penis, adam's apple, etc. I don't see how I look like a man but they say it's due to my chin, adam's apple apparently as they say, and strong shoulders, arms, and legs.

 

Latest comments was from this one man commenting on a forum post I had made about some guys issues I was facing....

 

"have you shown him your penis yet natalie? Oh! Welcome back with a new improved profile! I'd say...quit trying to trap men into a relationship, and tricking them by telling them you're waiting to be celibate until you're married in hopes that he won't mind that you have a penis after you exchange wedding vows. Just be up front and tell them you have a penis. That's pretty ****ing sneaky, and wierd to continue what you're doing dude. Man up. Or get the change over. Conning a man into believing you are a woman without any sexual relations until marriage just to find out you are a man is just going to get you killed. When in doubt...whip it out."

 

"...he figured it out. It was the 5 o'clock shadow in the picture. Adams apples don't lie."

 

"It really is hard to hide a penis natalie. This is your 3rd profile where you are trying to make a ploy to find a straight laced husband all the way to the altar in hopes of hiding it, and just hoping he won't mind you having one afterwards. This is your third profile where you repeatedly, and repititiously complain in forums that you can't find someone compatible with your straight edge, and celibate ethics to hide the fact that....you have a penis. You keep thinking you are going to get away with it because many women here have a moustache comparable to yours. Its just not so. Cococharms moustache is hot. Your penis is not. So I don't know what to tell you. Repeatedly making the same mistake over, and over, and expecting different results is beyond pathetic in your ploy to trap a man into thinking you're a woman nate...um, uh, natalie. Its not working."

 

"Your photoshops not working natalie. We can see your penis. I know what they look like. I have one. You have one. Men have them. Women do not have penises. If they did there would be more “why don't women like good guy” threads. And haagen daz chocolate truffle ice cream sales would be down. So...quit being in denial. That erection will rat you out every time."

 

"Seriously! Who wears a borders T shirt saying “I'm so cute its scary”? A guy with a penis who can't afford the sex change or the hormone replacement therapy who has had 3 pictures published in revolver magazine, who lives a whiny emo lifestyle, and has discovered a dillusional ploy to attempt to trick a man into a sexless celibate relationship until marriage hoping he won't mind that the person he thought was a woman is really a man afterwards. I'm tellin ya nate...its too far fetched. It just isn't going to work. People are dumb. Really dumb. But not that ****ing dumb. You have a penis. They are hard to hide. I know! My girlfreinds getting tired of me trying to hide it inside of her. You can't hide a penis. Its almost impossible."

 

"Penis. Schlong. Dick. Pecker. ****. Knob. Wiener. ****. Standing hampton. Big johnson. Rod. Toothbrush. Popsicle. Kielbasa. Hombre. It. That. Tongue suppressor. Taco tamer. Purple headed warrior. That finger. Third leg. Da bone. Boner. Richard. Tent pole. Deny it all you want nate....you have a penis."

[will1988]

Are you trying to ask us something, or are you venting?

 

Honestly, you do look a little masculine... I'm not saying that to be mean. Maybe, get a more feminine hair cut (talk to your hairstylest and ask her what hair cut softens a strong jawline), maybe dress more girly. Also, reading a few of your other threads just now makes me realize you are rather insecure. Stop being insecure. If you cannot love yourself or find yourself atractive, no one else will! However, if you grow confidence and start acting like the cock of the walk (bad example) then people will start noticing you more and treating you better.

[DannyMason]

You have a robust jawline, narrow lips, and broad shoulders. Those are the masculine traits I noticed in the picture. I don't think you should change your hair though, I think it looks nice. I'm curious as to who the people are that are hating on you. Maybe you'd feel better you'd disassociate yourself from the people who are treating you poorly?

[will1988]

You have a robust jawline, narrow lips, and broad shoulders. Those are the masculine traits I noticed in the picture. I don't think you should change your hair though, I think it looks nice. I'm curious as to who the people are that are hating on you. Maybe you'd feel better you'd disassociate yourself from the people who are treating you poorly?

 

I agree with Mason... about the hair thing, I was throwing it out as an idea, my GF is a hair stylest and she says certain hair types can make your face look fatter, flatter, thinner, longer etc... figured that the OP could look into that.

[will1988]

An adams apple is a big give away. Also, your chest is manly (or soon to be manly). It reminds me of a 16 year old boy's chest.

 

I apologize and I'm not trying to be cruel. What is your status? If you have a penis, then biologically you are a man, no? It's natural then to assume you would look like one?

 

I'm not trying to be cruel or thoughtless. I just want to understand the situation better.

 

thanks,

 

He does have a point. Are you a MtF Transgender? If so, that is fine by us... most of us are reasonable and understanding adults. However, saying you are a girl and acting like a girl, but not being a girl, and then getting called out for it is to be expected. Most guys want to be with real females that do not have male genitalia... if you are trying to attract men who will be interested in you, then try joining a website where men are interested in transgender people. if you are a true blue born female then I'm sorry for the comments. Either way, be true to yourself and become confident.

[napy666]

I'm not trasgender and I'm not a man nor do I have a penis. I was born a girl. Why do I gota show my boobs in the photo for?

[will1988]

I'm not trasgender and I'm not a man nor do I have a penis. I was born a girl. Why do I gota show my boobs in the photo for?

 

 

Ok for that I am sorry... what the other poster made a little sense. No you do not need to show us anything. Well then you need to follow the steps in my first comment. I'm sorry guys make fun of you for looking masculine, but hey it happens... I'm fat, and I get made fun of from time to time (but I retort) for being fat. But you know what? I stand up for myself. I also let it role off of my back like water off of a duck. I am confident and have a great job and have a lot to offer... if people can't see that, then that is their loss. You need to start thinking like that... you need to be confident and stop feeling self pitty.

[napy666]

Yeah I know trust me I have tried defending myself and stuff but people keep beating down on me it sucks.

[Grumpybutfun]

Do not post your photo online. It is very dangerous to do so due to identity theft, white slavery and using your photo for scams. You are a perfect candidate for white slavery because you come off as insecure so you would be an easy mark to trick into meeting the man of your dreams only to find out he is a pimp. Don't believe me, google it?

If you are insecure, do not visit forums as posters can be as cruel as they want to without any consequences. Have you ever heard of cyberbullying? People do it for fun and that is what this sounds like. Also, stop caring what others think of you and try to develop yourself intellectually and culturally so that you have pride in who you are as a person. Give your time to great causes and get involved in community projects that promote confidence like book clubs, debate, Big Sister programs, Habitat for Humanity or tutoring. Do not live your life online.

Grumps

[Aedra]

 

People guys, girls, tell me time and time again that I look like a man. I have a penis, adam's apple, etc. I don't see how I look like a man but they say it's due to my chin, adam's apple apparently as they say, and strong shoulders, arms, and legs.

 

Latest comments was from this one man commenting on a forum post I had made about some guys issues I was facing....

 

"have you shown him your penis yet natalie? Oh! Welcome back with a new improved profile! I'd say...quit trying to trap men into a relationship, and tricking them by telling them you're waiting to be celibate until you're married in hopes that he won't mind that you have a penis after you exchange wedding vows. Just be up front and tell them you have a penis. That's pretty ****ing sneaky, and wierd to continue what you're doing dude. Man up. Or get the change over. Conning a man into believing you are a woman without any sexual relations until marriage just to find out you are a man is just going to get you killed. When in doubt...whip it out."

 

"...he figured it out. It was the 5 o'clock shadow in the picture. Adams apples don't lie."

 

"It really is hard to hide a penis natalie. This is your 3rd profile where you are trying to make a ploy to find a straight laced husband all the way to the altar in hopes of hiding it, and just hoping he won't mind you having one afterwards. This is your third profile where you repeatedly, and repetitiously complain in forums that you can't find someone compatible with your straight edge, and celibate ethics to hide the fact that....you have a penis. You keep thinking you are going to get away with it because many women here have a moustache comparable to yours. Its just not so. Cococharms moustache is hot. Your penis is not. So I don't know what to tell you. Repeatedly making the same mistake over, and over, and expecting different results is beyond pathetic in your ploy to trap a man into thinking you're a woman nate...um, uh, natalie. Its not working."

 

"Your photoshops not working natalie. We can see your penis. I know what they look like. I have one. You have one. Men have them. Women do not have penises. If they did there would be more “why don't women like good guy” threads. And haagen daz chocolate truffle ice cream sales would be down. So...quit being in denial. That erection will rat you out every time."

 

"Seriously! Who wears a borders T shirt saying “I'm so cute its scary”? A guy with a penis who can't afford the sex change or the hormone replacement therapy who has had 3 pictures published in revolver magazine, who lives a whiny emo lifestyle, and has discovered a dillusional ploy to attempt to trick a man into a sexless celibate relationship until marriage hoping he won't mind that the person he thought was a woman is really a man afterwards. I'm tellin ya nate...its too far fetched. It just isn't going to work. People are dumb. Really dumb. But not that ****ing dumb. You have a penis. They are hard to hide. I know! My girlfreinds getting tired of me trying to hide it inside of her. You can't hide a penis. Its almost impossible."

 

"Penis. Schlong. Dick. Pecker. ****. Knob. Wiener. ****. Standing hampton. Big johnson. Rod. Toothbrush. Popsicle. Kielbasa. Hombre. It. That. Tongue suppressor. Taco tamer. Purple headed warrior. That finger. Third leg. Da bone. Boner. Richard. Tent pole. Deny it all you want nate....you have a penis."

 

 

Okay I don't know the full context of these quotes, but I presume you've been struggling to find a boyfriend, complaining about it alot and its gotten underneath people's skin. So they attack your physical appearance, which is pretty typical on any forum if you've posted a picture of yourself and having a heated debate. With the layer of anonymity the internet provides, people are alot more vicious.

 

You're really struggling with self worth and these trolls are really getting to you. But the thing is, if you don't learn to respect and love yourself, no matter what you think you look like, bad men will come into your life and treat you like trash. It's like a vibe they sense and they take advantage of it. I spent my early 20s dealing with sociopaths and guys who just saw me as a vagina. Years ago, I was SO close to getting with a guy online who I found out was a liar and cheater. I had zero self respect for myself and that was why. I let bad men use me. Although today I still struggle hugely with that, I learnt how I viewed myself, that would often be reflected back on me. And I'm trying really hard to love myself. I may not look be considered pretty by many people's standards, but why do their standards matter? Figure out your passions and do not measure yourself self worth by random online people you'll never meet.

[CC12]

I'll answer your question honestly. You don't look very feminine to me. If you're happy with the way you look, then that is the way you are "supposed to" look and it's fine. If you're not very happy with it, and maybe would like to come across as more feminine, then let us know and we can give you some pointers.

 

And that forum where all those people said those mean things to you? Don't go back there. Whatever kind of community you feel there can't be worth it to have people ranting at you.

[will1988]

I think she meant to put a comma there. lol

[ana0pera]

you have a very defined jawline that might be seen as masculine, but you don't look like a man. you look like a teenage girl. i think your jawline is very striking and unique.

 

that forum you're on is full of negative people and I think it would do you good to leave it, no one deserves to be bullied like that.

 

If you are concerned about looking masculine have you thought about playing up your femininity? Not saying you should, just a suggestion if you are insecure with your looks. Some people care less what other's think, whereas others are more sensitive, and it can take a toll on the self-esteem. A few simple changes can make a big difference.

 

For example, I prefer short hair (as in, I basically shaved my head for five years) but I then started to feel as if I looked like a boy when my hair is that short (some girls can pull it off, I don't think I have the right face), so now I wear it at shoulder length, and keep it in low-maintenance styles which is what i loved about short hair in the first place.

 

I think your hairstyle in that picture makes your chin very prominent, it's the only thing I can see on your face really, and it reminds me of the hairstyle a lot of emo-type boys wear. maybe that's why people say you look masculine? perhaps they mean androgynous. It's not a bad hairstyle but you might be able to find a more flattering hairstyle for your face, perhaps different types of bangs (or no bangs), different layers, or play up the volume.

[ScreamingTrees]

You look like a woman to me. You do have a strong jawline, but you still look feminine to me.

[Dragonfruit]

Wow, OP, those comments you posted from that other site were quite vicious. I don't think you look masculine. But if you think so the quick fix is make-up, in my opinion. Wherever you got those comments, I wouldn't go back there anymore. That is bullying and it's disgusting. Good luck to you.

Edited March 15, 2013 by Dragonfruit

[Phoebe]

I think your hairstyle in that picture makes your chin very prominent, it's the only thing I can see on your face really, and it reminds me of the hairstyle a lot of emo-type boys wear. maybe that's why people say you look masculine? perhaps they mean androgynous. It's not a bad hairstyle but you might be able to find a more flattering hairstyle for your face, perhaps different types of bangs (or no bangs), different layers, or play up the volume.

 

I agree that you could probably find a better hairstyle, I'd recommend finding a good quality hair stylist who will sit down and give you a proper consultation. I can't say 100% from the photo with your bangs and glasses in the way but I think that you have a square face (same as me).

 

My personal advice is that the side sweeping bangs are a good idea but they come down too low and are just drawing attention to the bottom half of your face. Like ana0pera I think you could try some layers and a bit more volume. Something else you may be interested in is some highlights. When people have square faces, unless you have ultra delicate and refined facial features (which I don't) you really want to be looking at a soft hairstyle, something wavy and wispy to break up the strong lines.

[anna121]

You look like a woman to me, too. But I agree that a different hairstyle (and more delicate glasses or even contacts) would help.

 

Please stay away from whatever depraved corner of the Internet is nourishing the rat-bastards who post that way to you.

[camillalev]

I agree with the other posters saying you shouldn't go back to whatever board those quotes came from. Mean.

 

You maybe look less feminine because you have a strong jawline and chin. Find a haircut that better suits you, don't hide your face. Play up your best features, focus on your eyes maybe. Try contacts.

I know how you feel though sometimes I feel unfeminine because I have broad shoulders and am a member of the itty bitty titty committee Hasn't ever stopped guys from expressing interest though.

[Radu]

Yeah I know trust me I have tried defending myself and stuff but people keep beating down on me it sucks.

 

I'm familiar with some of those comments, though from another perspective.

Single fat kid in the entire middle school, you know how it goes.

Those comments are quite frankly verbal abuse.

 

As will has said, you have a strong jawline.

Your hair/glasses/clothes/ smile don't help this, but they can all change [big emphasis on smile thing].

Self-esteem can be build up.

 

As for your adam's apple, it isn't male at all.

Overall, you do in fact look feminine [my sister also has pretty strong shoulders].

[Lillygoose]

Hello!

 

It seems to me there are people out there who are hurtful and mean and they thrive on it. Manly due to the fact they are the more insecure ones and saying that to you makes them feel better about themselves.

 

They are Low ass people, and you're better than that.

 

I have 4 other sisters, and a stunning twin. Blonde and olive skinned. size 8-10.

I was always the dark hair and ghostly white complexion, and when I was growing up I had many eating problems going from a size 10 to a size 18 back to 12.

 

I was very insecure and felt worthless.

 

Me and my twin had a heart to heart not long ago, and she tells me how insecure she is (jumps from guy to guy) and how no other girls like her( no girl friends), and men dont stick around and the fact she is jealous of every girl she meets to the point she has too spend hours in the mirror each morning so she feels better about herself. DO WE REALLY WANT THAT?

 

And she admitted she's jealous I can hold down long relationships, I am the bubbly one who gets along with everyone! and I'm getting my confidence back.

 

 

And she's just known as the pretty girl who jumps from guy to guy.

 

 

Anyway off point, People you least expect are most likely jealous in some form or another, It may not be your confidence but there are other aspects of us that make us who we are. Whether that be intelligence, strive to succeed in life, Confidence, and the ability to just enjoy life.

 

 

 

I think you are looking at yourself the complete negative way, And yes everyone. I mean everyone could improve on their outside 'beauty' But I believe if your happy in your skin thats all that matters. If you think on the positive side and the things you like about your body, No doubt there is something.

 

 

At the end of the day, you have to imagine all these people who state horrible things about you. have simply nothing better to do! But instead they go on your page, or comment on a picture.

 

You simply have to take it with a pinch of salt. And pity the sad people who dont know you or what a lovely person you are but instead choose to say horrible things.

 

hold your head up and be glad you're not them.