Asking about compensation tacky?

[Got it]

Okay, so he sent me another email wanting to meet with me again to discuss this compensation. He said "I am interested in working on a compensation package beyond hourly payment. Let's meet at my office to discuss a bonus structure."

 

 

:confused: Last time, I spent an hour of my time for him to say it would be bonus and he wasn't sure how to structure it. Now apparently he has it figured out and wants me to come in again. Should I bother?

 

Are you interested in the position? If so, go and give it a shot. If he wastes your time again you will know its not a good fit. If he doesn't you will have a better understanding of the manager, the company, etc. and will be time well spent.

[Krytie TV]

That's a tuffy. "Beyond hourly" could mean salary or incentive-based, depending on your perspective. I'm not the best person in the world to be giving advice about job seeking, but here's what I honestly think you should do, and yes, it's what I would do in your shoes. Draft up a compensation package that you would be happy with. Inflate it a bit to allow for negotiation. But more important than the starting numbers are the structure. You need to be happy with the structure of the package.

 

Make it look pretty, send it to him via email with a note saying that throughout this process you have been left in the dark about what the compensation would be, and that you feel he should understand what you are looking for before moving forward on any professional arrangement.

 

I agreed to contract terms with a school district recently to do an evaluation for a grant. In trying to get a contract prepared, I left multiple emails and voicemails with the superintendent asking for an arrangement of the contract with no responses. It's funny how as soon as I sent the email stating how important communication is in a professional relationship is, and that I would not be able to go through with our arrangement due to the lack of professional courtesy, I got a reply within an hour apologizing and wanting to make arrangements.

 

Sometimes it's OK to demonstrate that your time is worth something. Some prospective employers may even appreciate it, especially if it's a trait needed in your job. But no matter what, you walk away with your dignity.

[MsSmurf]

Yeah, he expected me to be all excited when he said I was hired before we even discussed how the salary would work. He just said "Oh I still have to figure that out" well, then I'm not agreeing to work for you until you do! I cannot believe this guy owns a bowling alley, used car lot and is a Realtor.

 

bowling alley = minimum wage employees

used car lot = commission

realtor = commission

 

So my guess is whatever he intends to hire you to do will not pay well since he isn't that accustomed to having to do that.

[CarrieT]

Seems like most of them have sons, no daughters

 

I can't believe these women don't have nieces. Or friends with daughters. Or cousins. Or friends with daughters.

 

Sometimes, PD, you are so short-sighted... You said "SEEMS" like most have sons. Meaning = You Don't Really Know because you aren't becoming interesting enough to them to help you find girls to date. These women probably do NOT have only males in their life.

 

If they think you are quite the catch, they will go out of their way to help you network.

[Got it]

bowling alley = minimum wage employees

used car lot = commission

realtor = commission

 

So my guess is whatever he intends to hire you to do will not pay well since he isn't that accustomed to having to do that.

 

Except two out of three of those tend to have management so you will usually have at least 1 GM and potentially AGMs.

[pink_sugar]

I responded yesterday and told him what I was looking for. As nicely as I could, I tried to communicate that I am not interested unless it's hourly or a set pay scale. Right now with carpool issues and this having been a busy week, it would have been too difficult for me to go in today. I didn't think it was necessary for either of us to waste more time when he should have told me this information at the first interview when he said that he was hiring me. I just don't have the time to spend sitting around discussing this further, because he had no clue how to pay me. If he wants to discuss the compensation, he can provide his terms via email or via phone.

[MsSmurf]

I responded yesterday and told him what I was looking for. As nicely as I could, I tried to communicate that I am not interested unless it's hourly or a set pay scale. Right now with carpool issues and this having been a busy week, it would have been too difficult for me to go in today. I didn't think it was necessary for either of us to waste more time when he should have told me this information at the first interview when he said that he was hiring me. I just don't have the time to spend sitting around discussing this further, because he had no clue how to pay me. If he wants to discuss the compensation, he can provide his terms via email or via phone.

 

I think you're doing the right thing here. It really isn't that hard to know how you're going to pay an employee and it doesn't sound like he's hiring you at the management level or for anything requires special certification or clearances. If he can't even figure out how to pay you I'd worry he wouldn't even have a clue what to actually have you do when you showed up. Time to move on to greener pastures.

[pink_sugar]

I think you're doing the right thing here. It really isn't that hard to know how you're going to pay an employee and it doesn't sound like he's hiring you at the management level or for anything requires special certification or clearances. If he can't even figure out how to pay you I'd worry he wouldn't even have a clue what to actually have you do when you showed up. Time to move on to greener pastures.

 

Oh yeah, he was showing me what he wanted me to do at the first interview...although he couldn't because he had no idea how to do the work himself, much less explain what he wanted me to do.

[MsSmurf]

Oh yeah, he was showing me what he wanted me to do at the first interview...although he couldn't because he had no idea how to do the work himself, much less explain what he wanted me to do.

 

Yeah so every day would be a headache. You can't train with someone who doesn't know how to do the job they're training you to do. Do you have any other prospects?