loveydovey982 Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 That sounds good in theory. In reality, if a guy is physically unattractive most women will never give him the time of day to learn if he is sweet, honest, loyal, kind, caring, devoted, loving, confident & sincere. As far as work, I'm not sure if you are referring to me or not, but I'm very successful in my career. That's not an issue with me. I was referring to Quietguy13 when I suggested working in a field that makes him feel accomplished, sorry about that miscommunication. Well, I am not other women and I've known many who hold similar views as I do. In my experience, for men and women, those who can see past the physical part of a person, whether it be pos neg or neutral, are secure within themselves and not superficial. IMO, there is an aura about people that radiates further than a physical appearance. The former holds more depth when I meet a person. When I was in my early 20's I wanted that visually striking man with the other aspects of success that most women desire. Though, my ex-husband wasn't necessarily my 'type' as in I prefer brown eyes, he has hazel, he has defined muscles and I prefer toned, he is into tattoos and I do not have any. But, even at 18, his character & personality was so attractive plus he and I got along very well. We were more like close friends than in love. I never was 'in love' or crushed on him. Alas, being so young and naive, I left him to pursue life as an independent single woman without his insecurities bogging me down. As any person he has flaws but he is a super guy. When we met he was living with his mom but he had a job, lived out of state on his own at one point, basically he was independent and not a mamas boy. Ah, I got way off track there. Link to post Share on other sites
Adamski Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 1. Not articulate not a good speaker. Shy, boring and so on 2. No fancy high college degrees 3. Plenty of hobbies 4. no career and no job. but i'm looking and i will end up doing some entry level thing such as filing and faxing and general office support work. 5. I have no interest in getting degrees and going to colleges. 6. Good heart great mind. You're off to an unpromising start. I would start with working on (1); ideally in tandem with (4). Link to post Share on other sites
Kaiten Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 I am a doctor. Perhaps i can help. I aint no woman, but i get the vibe that you lack passion and ambition. How? You have plenty of hobbies yet you say you have no career, suggesting you dont have a "promising future" as some would word it. Because you havent taken any of the things you like and really gotten into 'em, kid! What i am saying is, combine your number 3 with your number 6! Also, you say have plenty of hobbies, yet in item one you list "boring" as one of your qualities. Zayum! Do you spend your spare time doing things which you yourself believe to be uninteresting? Link to post Share on other sites
Kaiten Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Young man, what we do in our spare time (which apparently you have a lot of, if you dont have a job) says a lot about us. Life is what you make it. And you needn't be self-conscious about not having a degree! Many people become successful through things like their hobbies, and pursuing their passions, and being a good entrepreneur. You have something in you! God put you on earth for a reason! And you have your entire life ahead of you! Dont wait until you are my age to start thinking about this stuff! Link to post Share on other sites
Big Blue Box Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 Basically this is me, male in my 30s 1. Not articulate not a good speaker. Shy, boring and so on 3. Plenty of hobbies For the most part women want excitement of some sort in their lives. What are your hobbies? What women will be interested in your hobbies as well? If a woman considers your hobby boring then I highly doubt she will date you. This will narrow options some. 2. No fancy high college degrees 5. I have no interest in getting degrees and going to colleges. Ok, the kind of woman that you the most successful with are the high school dropouts and those that do not have anything beyond HS. 4. no career and no job. but i'm looking and i will end up doing some entry level thing such as filing and faxing and general office support work. Being stuck in a dead end job will narrow your options down even further. If you continue to have no job then it will narrow your options almost nothing. 6. Good heart great mind. Good heart and great mind are subjective terms rather than objective. What you would consider to be a "good heart and great mind" would be "cold heart and not so great mind" to someone else. That's it. That's as easy as it gets. Would you educated ladies date me? or if not, who would date me? From what I can gather on your post your likelihood of dating a woman will be quite small. Remember three things about women: Some date up, some date at their level, and a few date down. Since you also brought up your age I have a three more questions. How many relationships have you been in? How many of those relationships were long term? How long was your longest relationship? If you don't want to answer then that's fine. However, do reflect on that because if you have not been in a single long term relationship then that will narrow your options even further, possibly to absolutely nothing. Instead of asking what kind of a woman would be perfect for you how about asking yourself "What kind of a man do I need to be and how can I change to be that man?" Link to post Share on other sites
LovelyLife Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 No. I'm sorry - I wouldn't. You lack passion. It permeates your post. And the thing is - if you were a woman I would say: Date the men that want to date you. Don't waste your time as a Tier 2 or Tier 3 after thought. But I'm not certain you have an idea about what type of woman would be your Tier 1. Another thing - you need chutzpah. You need some mojo. It's lacking because you are not passionate about anything in life. Honestly - it's not about education or 'career' - it's about drive and ambition. There's nothing wrong with working at Burger King if you walk in every single day with the intent to do the best job and be employee of the year. Because guess what? Great things come to people with great attitudes. Link to post Share on other sites
PrayingDaily Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Wouldn't dream of speaking for all women but in general women like a man with a career, goals and personality. A man that wishes to secure a home, career and good future for his family...I'm also in no way implying women can't do this themselves but for me at least, it's hard to respect a man that lacks goals and determination. Are you suffering from depression? Link to post Share on other sites
Standard-Fare Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 QuietGuy, maybe I missed this, but how are you supporting yourself? You say you have no job, no career...how long has this been the case? How have you been getting by? I'm afraid the answer is living with parents. Which is not going to win you points here. Link to post Share on other sites
thefooloftheyear Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Women can be superficial, but so can men... You see many good looking, successful women date guys that work in lower wage scale blue collar jobs and such. Heck, I guy I know who has only a HS diploma and is a personal trainer (makes like 100/day max), has virtually no money and she supports him. Hes in his mid 30's. Hes not even in that good of shape. A bald, fat stockbroker that brings in 300k probably isnt going to find much love from this type of woman. Moral of the story? If you dont bring much to the table in terms of intelligence, ambition, work ethic, etc....then you better be pretty fit/good looking. DISCLAIMER-Yes I know not ALL women are like this... TFOY Link to post Share on other sites
bac Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 Basically this is me, male in my 30s 1. Not articulate not a good speaker. Shy, boring and so on 2. No fancy high college degrees 3. Plenty of hobbies 4. no career and no job. but i'm looking and i will end up doing some entry level thing such as filing and faxing and general office support work. 5. I have no interest in getting degrees and going to colleges. 6. Good heart great mind. That's it. That's as easy as it gets. Would you educated ladies date me? or if not, who would date me? It looks like you are into S&M. That is why you ask the question and really want to hear smth very hurtful. So, I guess the right answer is an educated woman who is into S&M as well. I guess you can find the woman on AFF. Link to post Share on other sites
spock and the hobbit Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 I'm going to give it a maybe. I like people with hobbies who are intelligent, your ability to intrigue me with your interests and personality would be enough to gain my interest, but probably not enough to make me want to date you. When I am single, I tend to enjoy it. I might develop a crush on you and think about what it'd be like to kiss or have sex with you, or just to tell you that you're attractive. I don't like college either, but will go back. I work in an office and pursue many interests and hobbies outside of that. I have five or six classes left for an associates degree, I had to drop out due to illness. I am also inarticulate and kind of awkward. People tend to consider me too quiet. Link to post Share on other sites
cdeyoung Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 View it from a woman's perspective, and ask yourself if you would date you... I sure as hell wouldn't date you, and I am not saying that to be mean. You need more confidence -- I am referencing to the "shy, boring and so on" portion. Link to post Share on other sites
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