Eternal Sunshine Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Just curious of your thoughts about attaching a small, professionally done and classy photo. Link to post Share on other sites
CarrieT Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no... 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Star Gazer Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Absolutely not. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Eternal Sunshine Posted April 1, 2013 Author Share Posted April 1, 2013 I guess I shall let my qualifications and experience speak for themselves 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Author Eternal Sunshine Posted April 1, 2013 Author Share Posted April 1, 2013 What if position is in another country? Still no? Link to post Share on other sites
pink_sugar Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Well considering employers cannot hire based on a person's looks/ethnic background or age because of possible discrimination, best for employers and you to avoid. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Eternal Sunshine Posted April 1, 2013 Author Share Posted April 1, 2013 Well considering employers cannot hire based on a person's looks/ethnic background or age because of possible discrimination, best for employers and you to avoid. Well this position says "women and minorities are encouraged to apply" So being a woman would be an advantage? :confused: It's a very male dominated field. Link to post Share on other sites
CarrieT Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Well this position says "women and minorities are encouraged to apply" Your name should be sufficient to indicate your gender. When I was in H.R., we threw away resumes that included a picture. It demonstrated a sense of desperation and a lack of professionalism. For a job in another country, you need to clearly state early in your cover letter WHY you are able and willing to move - then let your qualifications speak for themselves. Link to post Share on other sites
MsSmurf Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Wait a second. This job is in another country, says women/minorities are encouraged to apply, and is asking for a photo? I'd assume it was something shady and not apply at all. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Eternal Sunshine Posted April 1, 2013 Author Share Posted April 1, 2013 Wait a second. This job is in another country, says women/minorities are encouraged to apply, and is asking for a photo? I'd assume it was something shady and not apply at all. Job is in US, I am looking to relocate from Australia. It's not dodgy at all and they are not asking for photos. I had good success with including a photo here but could have been a fluke. Anyway, better not. Job is way out of my league anyway but I guess can't hurt to apply. Link to post Share on other sites
Star Gazer Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 I guess I shall let my qualifications and experience speak for themselves As they should. Why should your appearance matter, at all? And for all you know, the initial filter of resumes is a female, who would be even more put off by it. It shows a lack of judgment to include it. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Eternal Sunshine Posted April 1, 2013 Author Share Posted April 1, 2013 Yes, looking at this institution it's quite traditional, photo would be a disaster. Thanks guys. Link to post Share on other sites
ON MY OWN Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 (edited) Flat out no! Noone is supposed to hire on looks or anything about it, speaking on a discriminatory level. If you want to impress with your appearance, do it in interviews, thats what those are for. Hiring is based on qualifications, willingness to do the applied for job, etc. I would not recommend it. Not to mention, that seems like overdoing it also. Your resume should speak for itself. Edited April 1, 2013 by ON MY OWN Link to post Share on other sites
Author Eternal Sunshine Posted April 1, 2013 Author Share Posted April 1, 2013 The position is extremely competitive, I was hoping to make a more personable impact because realistically I won't make it to the interview. But oh well.. Link to post Share on other sites
lovelorcet Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 For the US, no. There are countries, for example Germany and some other European countries where a professional photo is always used. Link to post Share on other sites
Els Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Very odd. Back where I come from, photos are absolutely required; most resumes without photos get discarded. I definitely prefer the norm of not requiring/wanting a photo. Appearance should not be a factor in a qualification-based job. Link to post Share on other sites
Queenie42 Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 The only instance I can think of where a photo may be needed is if it's for some kind of modelling work, but then I expect they'd want to see a proper portfolio. On the other hand, I have got one of those androgynous names and have had enough of people say to me, "Oh, I was expecting a boy." But surely a photo isn't necessary, I've just amended my CV so it says "Miss Firstname Surname" to reflect my gender. Link to post Share on other sites
Frogwife Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 In France it's normal to have your photo, age and marital status on CVs. For the US, never ever ever unless (as others have said) it's for something that requires a "look" - modeling/acting, etc. Link to post Share on other sites
Emilia Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Just curious of your thoughts about attaching a small, professionally done and classy photo. I include my LinkedIn profile link on my CV and that has a photo of me. A linkedin profile is pretty much expected nowdays and this is how many of us choose to share more than what is on a resume traditionally. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Author Eternal Sunshine Posted April 1, 2013 Author Share Posted April 1, 2013 The only instance I can think of where a photo may be needed is if it's for some kind of modelling work, but then I expect they'd want to see a proper portfolio. On the other hand, I have got one of those androgynous names and have had enough of people say to me, "Oh, I was expecting a boy." But surely a photo isn't necessary, I've just amended my CV so it says "Miss Firstname Surname" to reflect my gender. Yeah, I may include Miss. My name has a weird spelling and I want to use my advantage of being a woman since women are encouraged to apply Link to post Share on other sites
anne1707 Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Well this position says "women and minorities are encouraged to apply" So being a woman would be an advantage? :confused: It's a very male dominated field. That does not mean you would be at an advantage. It only means that you will not be at a disadvantage. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Author Eternal Sunshine Posted April 1, 2013 Author Share Posted April 1, 2013 That does not mean you would be at an advantage. It only means that you will not be at a disadvantage. Ah I see. I misinterpreted it, it's not something I see often in ads. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Eternal Sunshine Posted April 2, 2013 Author Share Posted April 2, 2013 (edited) I e-mailed them to ask when is the closing date for the application (it doesn't say so in the ad). I got no response. I wonder if it's even worth applying. I don't have much experience with applying for jobs. Usually I would apply-get an interview-get a job. I have sent very few applications/been to very few interviews in my life. And I would work in the same place for years and years. Edited April 2, 2013 by Eternal Sunshine Link to post Share on other sites
TheFinalWord Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 (edited) I e-mailed them to ask when is the closing date for the application (it doesn't say so in the ad). I got no response. I wonder if it's even worth applying. I don't have much experience with applying for jobs. Usually I would apply-get an interview-get a job. I have sent very few applications/been to very few interviews in my life. And I would work in the same place for years and years. Not sure if you want to disclose, but if you're applying for what I think you are applying for... CV should not have a pic for US. No pic, but.... One method is to create your own website. You can make with google, or just purchase a domain (it's only like $20 US a year). Place your photo and bio sketch on main page. Someone else said, linked in. That is okay too. I would recommend your own website, especially since I think you said you have experience with html and latex. Place your website url on your CV with your contact info. I did that and got a lot of hits. Recommend to use a professional photo (i.e. what you would wear to interview). For positions I think you are applying for, most will say minorities/women are encouraged to apply. Yes, it can give you an advantage. On the application sites, most will have you fill out a "voluntary" demographic info page which will ask gender, race, citizenship, etc. So they will find out that way. Don't get discouraged with job hunt. Many you will never hear back from. Some put up job notifications before they have even secured funding. Then funding does not come through. Personal touch honestly is best obtained by good old social networking, i.e. LOR from an insider or meeting at conferences. With personal touches, they will not allow for much b/c HR is rather hardcore at the opening phases. You will hear little back until they review all applicants. Definitely go for at least one dream job! You never know! Edited April 2, 2013 by TheFinalWord 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Author Eternal Sunshine Posted April 2, 2013 Author Share Posted April 2, 2013 Not sure if you want to disclose, but if you're applying for what I think you are applying for... CV should not have a pic for US. No pic, but.... One method is to create your own website. You can make with google, or just purchase a domain (it's only like $20 US a year). Place your photo and bio sketch on main page. Someone else said, linked in. That is okay too. I would recommend your own website, especially since I think you said you have experience with html and latex. Place your website url on your CV with your contact info. I did that and got a lot of hits. Recommend to use a professional photo (i.e. what you would wear to interview). For positions I think you are applying for, most will say minorities/women are encouraged to apply. Yes, it can give you an advantage. On the application sites, most will have you fill out a "voluntary" demographic info page which will ask gender, race, citizenship, etc. So they will find out that way. Don't get discouraged with job hunt. Many you will never hear back from. Some put up job notifications before they have even secured funding. Then funding does not come through. Personal touch honestly is best obtained by good old social networking, i.e. LOR from an insider or meeting at conferences. With personal touches, they will not allow for much b/c HR is rather hardcore at the opening phases. You will hear little back until they review all applicants. Definitely go for at least one dream job! You never know! Hey you Yes, I am applying exactly what you think I am applying for I just don't want to disclose it publicly on here as I am sure you understand. This job is likely toooo good but what the hell. Website is a great idea and I do have extensive experience with Latex, HTML, Javascript, creating websites etc. I think I will pay for a professional photo to be taken, dressed up and classy - no phone camera self shots I do have possible options here but I would rather relocate. I am not sure how put off they will be that I am in Australia and applying for work in US. It may likely work against me. I will be in US in June/July so it would be good if I could line up some interviews. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
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