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This is why Ive decided in the past year that I will never ever get married. Why should I tie myself down and give so much of myself to such insanely shallow and emotionally devoid creatures? No thank you. Guys dont give a **** about your character or your intellect unless you are hot. Maybe one day Ill meet a rare exception but I aint holding my breath.

 

It really is a tough situation to wrap my head around because I know we as people in general are shallow, but not by choice. Attraction is a natural predisposition. But as humans, having intelligent thought and complex emotion throws a wrench into the whole paradigm of instinctual attraction. Shallowness or feeling guilty for being shallow isn't at all prevalent in animals from what I know. It's a tough situation all around.

 

Why should I tie myself down and give so much of myself to such insanely shallow and emotionally devoid creatures?

 

I'm not denying the shallowness, but I think "emotionally devoid" is a reach. Guys have emotions, they're just less apt to display them.

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Hey didn't you post a thread where these two girls from your dance class wanted to share their cupcakes with you (double entendre fully intended) but you weren't interested in? Again, you have options too, but you chose to remain single.

 

Those girls, from what you wrote about them, sound really sweet. I could see how they would be thinking how "unfair" it is that guys pass them up to go after other girls who aren't as nice or whatever.

 

I'm not saying this to pick on you somedude. Or to say that you should go for them. You are attracted to whom you are attracted to. BUT I do think your worldview of things is off, and this is one way.

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Lonely Ronin

And sometimes you're really funny, and even your awkwardness and "creepiness" (as you put it) can be a little cute, but not the constant pissing and moaning.

 

Learn from this SD........

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I'm tired about hearing women talk about how tall men are God's gift to women everywhere and how a tall guy lights her panties on fire just because he's tall. Of course he didn't do anything at all to become tall.

Fu*king retarded.

 

I happen to appreciate shorter males because they weren't the jocks in high school and as a result are often nicer guys. I've dated a guy who was 5'6" and I'm 5'4". Current bf is 5'8". I do tend to prefer at least 2" taller than myself at least, because I'm a "lay my head on his chest" sorta gal...

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I happen to appreciate shorter males because they weren't the jocks in high school and as a result are often nicer guys.

 

 

 

So because I was an athlete and tall that means I'm not nice......

 

The stuff that people come up with to make themselves feel better is ridiculous on LS.

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Men think we should accept their shallowness and use biology as an excuse. Women should stop taking their crap and say **** men and your shallowness.

 

No one's saying it's an "excuse" but do you really think it's a choice or conscious decision? Some kind of coincidence that nearly every man has the same natural instinct? I don't blame women for thinking men are shallow, because I know we are by the definition. But I think it's naive to denounce them for something they're predisposed to. I feel the same way about guys who complain that girls are more attracted to successful, resourceful guys with a lot of money. Yeah, it might suck if you're not one of them but you if your issue is with biology and natural instincts, don't blame the people.

 

Men only have emotions about a girl when she is hot and will **** him. Men dont truly care about women the way women care about men. They do care some, but nowhere near the nonshallow level the way women do. Take away your looks and ****ing and they will stop caring about you.

 

Not really. I have female friends who I'm not attracted to at all. I care about their well being, I'm upset if they're upset and I'll help them out if I can like any friend would. If they had some sort of issue with me, it wouldn't sit well and I'd try and rectify it. I enjoy their company, want them to be happy and have a mutually beneficial friendship with me, but no, I don't want to sleep with them. There are also very attractive girls whose personalities turn me way off as well.

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Hey didn't you post a thread where these two girls from your dance class wanted to share their cupcakes with you (double entendre fully intended) but you weren't interested in? Again, you have options too, but you chose to remain single.

 

Those girls, from what you wrote about them, sound really sweet. I could see how they would be thinking how "unfair" it is that guys pass them up to go after other girls who aren't as nice or whatever.

 

I'm not saying this to pick on you somedude. Or to say that you should go for them. You are attracted to whom you are attracted to. BUT I do think your worldview of things is off, and this is one way.

Both of those girls are very overweight.

 

Before you even being to think about calling me a hypocrite, think about why I made this thread.

 

Also they really haven't done anything to show that they'd want to be anything more than friends. None of them have told me that they liked me, or asked me out, or flirted, so they aren't options. And I'm not going to ask them out.

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Guess what? Women are biologically predisposed to like a man's money. Its not a conscious decision either. Good luck getting men to "accept" that on this forum even though there is just as much scientific evolutionary evidence that supports both sex stereotypes. **** men and their double standards. They justify anything that excuses their behavior while degrading women for displaying the same exact behavior.

 

 

If your going to try and make arguments with stereotypes about biology, at least get them right......................

 

 

The stereo type is "that women are more attracted to men who can protect & provide for them". That encompass a lot more than just money.

 

 

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Guess what? Women are biologically predisposed to like a man's money. Its not a conscious decision either. Good luck getting men to "accept" that on this forum even though there is just as much scientific evolutionary evidence that supports both sex stereotypes. **** men and their double standards. They justify anything that excuses their behavior while degrading women for displaying the same exact behavior

 

I wrote this:

But I think it's naive to denounce them for something they're predisposed to. I feel the same way about guys who complain that girls are more attracted to successful, resourceful guys with a lot of money. Yeah, it might suck if you're not one of them but you if your issue is with biology and natural instincts, don't blame the people.

 

What I'm getting at here is that anyone, regardless of gender, who blames the opposite sex for their natural predispositions is naive. It works both ways.

 

Men attracted to a women's looks = shallow

Women attracted to a man's money = shallow

People who think complaining about either one will change anything = bitter, misinformed, and/or ignorant

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Lonely Ronin

Before you even being to think about calling me a hypocrite, think about why I made this thread.

 

You are a complete hypocrite when it comes this topic.

 

Some women aren't going to be attracted to you because of your height, and that's no different than you not being attracted to some woman because of her weight.

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If your going to try and make arguments with stereotypes about biology, at least get them right......................

 

 

The stereo type is "that women are more attracted to men who can protect & provide for them". That encompass a lot more than just money.

 

Yep, and a guy who whines more than a woman is not attractive. Not saying that to be mean, but it's the truth. Especially past the age of 30.

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As for why I don't want to date a very overweight woman.

 

Pick one or more reasons why they aren't considered attractive from this thread

 

http://www.loveshack.org/forums/mind-body-soul/physical-fitness-health-weight-management/383213-why-discrimination-against-fat-people

I'd also like to point out that none of those reasons can apply to a short man.

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Yep, and a guy who whines more than a woman is not attractive. Not saying that to be mean, but it's the truth. Especially past the age of 30.

 

you know i don't agree with the stereotype right? I mean people who believe some of crap spewed on LS are morons.

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you know i don't agree with the stereotype right? I mean people who believe some of crap spewed on LS are morons.

 

Yes yes, I know. ;):)

 

I don't want to outwardly refer to anyone as morons though (even though I may secretly think it)

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I've had a bunch of tall boyfriends (at least, tall by my standards, 5'10"/5'11" or so) and think, when they're that height and also really cool, love-able, good to me, etc, I'm really lucky 'cause it's hot for a guy to be on the tall side. But my whole life I've also liked shorter guys in the 5'6" to 5'8" range as long as they were pretty cute, nice, likeable. This board (and other boards like it online) has contributed to my liking short guys in real life less. I think I actually transfer the angst, annoying-ness, self-deprectation, insecurity, bitterness from these boards to real-life shorter guys. They could be acting totally normal in real life, but my exposure to the short-guy-angst from online makes me think they're probably totally hung up and insecure about it too. Or I'm reminded that short guys have low self-esteem (a notion I get from online). I guess what I'm saying is that the short guys on this site make things harder for short guys in real life because you are making them look bad.

 

I say...just don't talk about your shortcomings. Ever. To anyone.

 

I have things that I'm extremely insecure about. They are physical things. I never speak about them to anyone, ever. I've only ever mentioned them to my mother and sister. I don't even talk to close friends or any guy I'm dating (even in a long-term relationship) about them. I've certainly never mentioned them on here. I just STFU about it because I don't want to create an image of myself as insecure or someone to be looked down upon by ANYONE. Only my mom and sis can see my insecurity.

 

There's a saying..."Think highly of yourself. The world holds you at your estimate."

 

The more you talk badly about yourself or think of yourself as "less," the more the whole world agrees with you.

 

We dont want you to settle for us while you lust after tall men.

 

Sicne you said yourself you consider yourself "lucky" that tall guys have liked you stick to them please

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Both of those girls are very overweight.

 

Before you even being to think about calling me a hypocrite, think about why I made this thread.

 

Also they really haven't done anything to show that they'd want to be anything more than friends. None of them have told me that they liked me, or asked me out, or flirted, so they aren't options. And I'm not going to ask them out.

 

 

Listen to yourself in this post. That is how most WOMEN, including (in all likelihood) the women you are into, approach dating.

 

I wonder how many women you liked (including the two women you posted about whom you were into, in your last thread) had no idea you felt that way about them until a while in, after the "friendship"/social dynamic was already established.

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We dont want you to settle for us while you lust after tall men.

 

Sicne you said yourself you consider yourself "lucky" that tall guys have liked you stick to them please

You completely missed her entire point. As usual.

 

I have so many other things I could say but can't be bothered with infractions. This thread is a prime example of why I shouldn't even bother helping any of you guys. You're all doomed - and it's you who is dooming yourselves.

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You completely missed her entire point. As usual.

 

I have so many other things I could say but can't be bothered with infractions. This thread is a prime example of why I shouldn't even bother helping any of you guys. You're all doomed - and it's you who is dooming yourselves.

 

Please i want a women whso actually attracted to me not a women who will settle for me and prefers tall men

 

Im sorry i wouldnt want to be with a women who found herself "lucky" that she could attract tall men

 

If she has that strong a preference for tall men then stick to them whats wrong with that?

 

Nobody wants to be settled for

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Yep, and a guy who whines more than a woman is not attractive. Not saying that to be mean, but it's the truth. Especially past the age of 30.

 

Meh.

 

Nobody can tell he whines in real life.

 

There's two things you can do. Vent in private here or vent in public on Facebook.

 

I actually have one female friend who whines in real life on Facebook. Whines about how she can't ever get a boyfriend and everything.

 

It's not that unattractive. I understand where she comes from.

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Listen to yourself in this post. That is how most WOMEN, including (in all likelihood) the women you are into, approach dating.

 

I wonder how many women you liked (including the two women you posted about whom you were into, in your last thread) had no idea you felt that way about them until a while in, after the "friendship"/social dynamic was already established.

Um, I ask out everybody I'm interested in unless they begin to act cold towards me.

 

As for the other girls I wrote about, there was no "friendship" dynamic. Or are you telling me that after sitting next to a girl for four days in class, she expects me to ask out immediately or the door is forever closed? Never mind the fact they there were no signals they were interested and I still asked somebody out. She also had very modest sized breasts too :cool:

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Meh.

 

Nobody can tell he whines in real life.

 

True.

 

But venting on here, are thoughts in one's mind being translated onto paper (in essence...). So, if someone carries those types of thoughts, it is bound to translate into real life in some form or another.

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Meh.

 

Nobody can tell he whines in real life.

 

There's two things you can do. Vent in private here or vent in public on Facebook.

 

I actually have one female friend who whines in real life on Facebook. Whines about how she can't ever get a boyfriend and everything.

 

It's not that unattractive. I understand where she comes from.

I never whine in a location where somebody knows my face.

 

And if somebody couldn't tell from my picture, I'm in disguise.

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Or are you telling me that after sitting next to a girl for four days in class, she expects me to ask out immediately or the door is forever closed?

 

In some cases yes, you must be bold and decide fast.

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