fortyninethousand322 Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Um, I ask out everybody I'm interested in unless they begin to act cold towards me. As for the other girls I wrote about, there was no "friendship" dynamic. Or are you telling me that after sitting next to a girl for four days in class, she expects me to ask out immediately or the door is forever closed? Never mind the fact they there were no signals they were interested and I still asked somebody out. She also had very modest sized breasts too Yeah, some guys are just not the type that ask out every girl immediately upon meeting her. I'm one of those types. Thankfully, I haven't found myself in the friendzone very frequently (because I tend to walk away from the "friendship" when I see things headed that direction). But still, it's a trait that lends itself to those types of situations. Link to post Share on other sites
kaylan Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 For some reason, many people seem to think they are basically the same thing. Many men aren't attracted to overweight women, many women aren't attracted to short men. Here's some of the main differences between them. There is nothing a man did to become short. He has absolutely no control over how tall he became whatsoever. Short men cannot become taller (not counting painful and very expensive surgery) A man a few inches below average height looks exactly the same as a taller man. Give a 5'6 man boots that make him 5'9 and nobody would ever guess that his real height isn't actually 5'9. If you see a man in a picture with nothing else to judge his height against, it's impossible to tell how tall he is. Id say they are more similar than you lead on. Height for a woman isnt as big a deterrent to finding a mate like it is for a man. A shorter woman is a plus, while a taller girl is a novelty. And taller girls either date taller guys, or guys their height who enjoy her height. A woman is judged harshly by men for her weight the same way woman judge men harshly for their height. We all know how guys talk about girls and their weight. Women arent nearly as mean when it comes to weight. Yes women do care about a guys weight, but I see more women let the weight issue slide, than I see men let it slide. Link to post Share on other sites
fortyninethousand322 Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 In some cases yes, you must be bold and decide fast. Why the heck would you ask someone out immediately upon meeting them? They could be a serial killer for all you know. Or at the very least have nothing in common with you. Best to look before you leap... Link to post Share on other sites
Author somedude81 Posted April 1, 2013 Author Share Posted April 1, 2013 In some cases yes, you must be bold and decide fast. Yeah I'm starting to realize that. Though you do know that it completely goes against what Imajerk17 said. Women don't have to approach dating like a snake, with lightning quick strikes. So many things in dating are stacked against men. Link to post Share on other sites
fortyninethousand322 Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Yeah I'm starting to realize that. Though you do know that it completely goes against what Imajerk17 said. Women don't have to approach dating like a snake, with lightning quick strikes. So many things in dating are stacked against men. Not against men in general. Rather against certain kinds of men. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Author somedude81 Posted April 1, 2013 Author Share Posted April 1, 2013 Not against men in general. Rather against certain kinds of men. I'd actually say that it is stacked against most men. While a small number of men have figured out the game, or won the genetic lottery and don't even have to play. Everybody else has 1,001 ways they can screw up with women. Link to post Share on other sites
ThaWholigan Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Meh. Nobody can tell he whines in real life. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: That's what they ALL say . There's two things you can do. Vent in private here or vent in public on Facebook. I actually have one female friend who whines in real life on Facebook. Whines about how she can't ever get a boyfriend and everything. It's not that unattractive. I understand where she comes from. It would be to me - someone who whines all the time would piss me off after a while. And it's not like I don't understand or sympathize, but it's hard to feel sorry for someone who bitches and cries all the time about how unfair life is. Even the venting - yeah, vent sometimes, but all the time? Come on. Learn to get over it. Please i want a women whso actually attracted to me not a women who will settle for me and prefers tall men Im sorry i wouldnt want to be with a women who found herself "lucky" that she could attract tall men If she has that strong a preference for tall men then stick to them whats wrong with that? Nobody wants to be settled for This is why you guys sound stupid: There are women who actually don't care how tall you are! Go f*cking find em. If you keep telling yourself that all women only like tall men and it's no use, guess what? You're only gonna encounter women who like tall men. So stop crying about settling and tall men and shallow women and start finding the women who aren't because they exist. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
kaylan Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 And who ever saw that episode of Sex and the City with this guy? He hits on Samantha in the bar, and gets a date set up. When he hops off his stool she realizes how short he is. Shes hesitant to continue things, but the dude has wicked game and obviously has no problem getting her or other women. Sure its a tv show, but charisma, style, and a good look can help overcome the short thing. Totally love this guys swag. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
fortyninethousand322 Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 I'd actually say that it is stacked against most men. While a small number of men have figured out the game, or won the genetic lottery and don't even have to play. Everybody else has 1,001 ways they can screw up with women. I don't know, I think it really depends. I don't know about you, but I've had plenty of opportunities to observe friends of mine and their dating habits and relationships. None of these guys look like models and sure not all of them have been hugely successful, but by and large you don't need to be perfect. Or at least they haven't needed to be. The hard luck cases on the other hand, similar to the hard luck cases here on LS, have had problems over the tiniest of things. It's definitely feast or famine, IME. Link to post Share on other sites
Imajerk17 Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Um, I ask out everybody I'm interested in unless they begin to act cold towards me. As for the other girls I wrote about, there was no "friendship" dynamic. Or are you telling me that after sitting next to a girl for four days in class, she expects me to ask out immediately or the door is forever closed? Never mind the fact they there were no signals they were interested and I still asked somebody out. She also had very modest sized breasts too You have to make the conversation personal in some way before you ask them out (97% of the time anyway). You have to flirt with them, have them tell you something cool about themselves (usually by asking or making observations) before you can ask them out. You have to express interest beforehand. I'm wondering if you're skipping steps. If you're talking to them about class or the weather and then you ask them out, that is skipping steps. 5 Link to post Share on other sites
fortyninethousand322 Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 And who ever saw that episode of Sex and the City with this guy? He hits on Samantha in the bar, and gets a date set up. When he hops off his stool she realizes how short he is. Shes hesitant to continue things, but the dude has wicked game and obviously has no problem getting her or other women. Sure its a tv show, but charisma, style, and a good look can help overcome the short thing. Totally love this guys swag. Yeah, I mean it is a show so not likely to be convincing to most. But still, it's a good point. I'm not short, so I won't tell short guys how to feel. But, I've seen short men do fine with women. It's not a crippling trait. Perhaps short stature combined with other traits, but not shortness alone... Link to post Share on other sites
fortyninethousand322 Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 You have to make the conversation personal in some way before you ask them out (97% of the time anyway). You have to flirt with them, have them tell you something cool about themselves (usually by asking or making observations) before you can ask them out. You have to express interest beforehand. I'm wondering if you're skipping steps. If you're talking to them about class or the weather and then you ask them out, that is skipping steps. For some guys the process of getting personal takes a bit of time. Usually a couple of weeks, maybe longer. You just don't go barging in without a care... Link to post Share on other sites
PJKino Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: That's what they ALL say . It would be to me - someone who whines all the time would piss me off after a while. And it's not like I don't understand or sympathize, but it's hard to feel sorry for someone who bitches and cries all the time about how unfair life is. Even the venting - yeah, vent sometimes, but all the time? Come on. Learn to get over it. This is why you guys sound stupid: There are women who actually don't care how tall you are! Go f*cking find em. If you keep telling yourself that all women only like tall men and it's no use, guess what? You're only gonna encounter women who like tall men. So stop crying about settling and tall men and shallow women and start finding the women who aren't because they exist. Ive given up..its hard enough when you're short to find women who will "tolerate" your height but once you find the few women who will thats just step one then she has to find you facially attractive and other things Link to post Share on other sites
xxoo Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 For some guys the process of getting personal takes a bit of time. Usually a couple of weeks, maybe longer. You just don't go barging in without a care... Why not? It's just a conversation. This is where social skills come it. Not being able to manage this part is a much, much bigger dating handicap than height. MUCH. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
PJKino Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 And who ever saw that episode of Sex and the City with this guy? He hits on Samantha in the bar, and gets a date set up. When he hops off his stool she realizes how short he is. Shes hesitant to continue things, but the dude has wicked game and obviously has no problem getting her or other women. Sure its a tv show, but charisma, style, and a good look can help overcome the short thing. Totally love this guys swag. Patronizing... Link to post Share on other sites
Lonely Ronin Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Why the heck would you ask someone out immediately upon meeting them? Not immediately, but in very short order. The woman I'm dating now for example, I asked out after interacting with her during the coarse of two social events for a grand total of maybe 2 hours. So many things in dating are stacked against men. As they saying goes "Fortune favors the bold" No, it's not stacked against men, it's stacked against people who don't take chances. I was scared out of my damn mind the first time I asked out the woman I'm dating right now. She is smart, quick witted, sassy, accomplished, and super beautiful. I figured this all out during are 2 social interactions, so I was pretty sure we where compatible. I even knew she was single, and looking. However I was still so nervous that I need 2 shots of Whiskey to calm myself before I called her. She was bold as well when she excepted, because she didn't really know me. I mean after all I'm substantially, heavier, & stronger that her. So she took a big risk, buy putting her physical safety in question. 4 Link to post Share on other sites
fortyninethousand322 Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Why not? It's just a conversation. This is where social skills come it. Not being able to manage this part is a much, much bigger dating handicap than height. MUCH. That I definitely agree with. Link to post Share on other sites
ThaWholigan Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Patronizing... Only to a man who doesn't have the heart to face his fears. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
PJKino Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 . Being short is a dealbreaker to some women but they are a small % lol try getting a date online as a short guy ive had women pushing 3 bills call me a ugly midget online Link to post Share on other sites
Divasu Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 ive had women pushing 3 bills call me a ugly midget online If they called you that, they did you a favor. Those are NOT the type of women you would be happy with dating. Link to post Share on other sites
PJKino Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 If they called you that, they did you a favor. Those are NOT the type of women you would be happy with dating. That's most women online.its created a monster with women where even ugly women think theyre a prize because of how many guys send them messages Link to post Share on other sites
xxoo Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Is there a reason you are using OLD instead of meeting women IRL? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Divasu Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 That's most women online.its created a monster with women where even ugly women think theyre a prize because of how many guys send them messages Well, I'd surmise a portion of that is a result from some of the guys filling their heads with a lot of hot air. It's a vicious cycle, I'm sure. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Author somedude81 Posted April 1, 2013 Author Share Posted April 1, 2013 You have to make the conversation personal in some way before you ask them out (97% of the time anyway). You have to flirt with them, have them tell you something cool about themselves (usually by asking or making observations) before you can ask them out. You have to express interest beforehand. I'm wondering if you're skipping steps. If you're talking to them about class or the weather and then you ask them out, that is skipping steps. The girl I asked out last month used to be Marine Biology major but then changed it to Business but was undecided on what focus she wants to have. Most likely she would go into management. She likes to skateboard and surf and is currently living in the dorms. About every other weekend she'd go back to her parents house. She likes doing the dorm events on campus like scavenger hunts and other activities. She really likes Disney and Seth MAcFarlane cartoons and also draws. She doesn't play video games or watch anime. She has expressed some interest in doing swing dancing. The next girl is an interior design major and wants to go into business for herself when she graduates. She makes clothes and has a very expensive machine that she uses. She's single. I actually don't know much about her hobbies because she started to become cold towards me and we haven't talked in a while. Normally I'd know a lot more about her by this time. The last girl has been dancing nearly her entire life. Big on ballet. It took her a while to adjust to salsa because the structure is very different from what she's used to. Several of the guys in the class frustrate her because they don't know what their doing. She always brings up how she's happy to dance with me. She's currently a pre-nursing major and is going to be transferring out of our school now because she wasn't able to get into the program here. I just learned that she has a boyfriend. The first girl is the only one I've actually been able to sit down and talk to for a decent length of the time. The other girls I can only talk to them while dancing and it's about 2 minutes before we have to rotate. It's also only possible to dance with 1/3 of the girls in class each day. I could write a 5-page essay about the girl I chased for two years. Link to post Share on other sites
PJKino Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Is there a reason you are using OLD instead of meeting women IRL? I dont know any single women all my friends are married Link to post Share on other sites
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