ThaWholigan Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 lol try getting a date online as a short guy ive had women pushing 3 bills call me a ugly midget online I've been called worse. You get over it Link to post Share on other sites
fortyninethousand322 Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Men on those online dating sites are among the most shallow socially retarded men. I get told Im hot in real life so I got alot of messages when I did it once. Almost all of them were from scummy men. Perhaps if men read a girls profile and didnt base their emails off of her looks their responses would be different Doubt it. Spending a half an hour to 45 minutes reading a profile and writing a good first message is rarely worth the effort. It's never read, or it's read and never replied to. Link to post Share on other sites
xxoo Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 In all this conversation, did you give these women any indication of your attraction? Or did you stay friendly-neutral? For example: Several of the guys in the class frustrate her because they don't know what their doing. She always brings up how she's happy to dance with me. What a perfect opportunity to flirt, and even ask her out! Did you jump on that? Link to post Share on other sites
ThaWholigan Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Men on those online dating sites are among the most shallow socially retarded men. I get told Im hot in real life so I got alot of messages when I did it once. Almost all of them were from scummy men. Perhaps if men read a girls profile and didnt base their emails off of her looks their responses would be different I'm sorry, but where are all these masculiniphobes (yeah I made that up) coming from? GTFOH, and take the rest of the bitter brigade (male and female) with you. The girl I asked out last month used to be Marine Biology major but then changed it to Business but was undecided on what focus she wants to have. Most likely she would go into management. She likes to skateboard and surf and is currently living in the dorms. About every other weekend she'd go back to her parents house. She likes doing the dorm events on campus like scavenger hunts and other activities. She really likes Disney and Seth MAcFarlane cartoons and also draws. She doesn't play video games or watch anime. She has expressed some interest in doing swing dancing. The next girl is an interior design major and wants to go into business for herself when she graduates. She makes clothes and has a very expensive machine that she uses. She's single. I actually don't know much about her hobbies because she started to become cold towards me and we haven't talked in a while. Normally I'd know a lot more about her by this time. The last girl has been dancing nearly her entire life. Big on ballet. It took her a while to adjust to salsa because the structure is very different from what she's used to. Several of the guys in the class frustrate her because they don't know what their doing. She always brings up how she's happy to dance with me. She's currently a pre-nursing major and is going to be transferring out of our school now because she wasn't able to get into the program here. I just learned that she has a boyfriend. The first girl is the only one I've actually been able to sit down and talk to for a decent length of the time. The other girls I can only talk to them while dancing and it's about 2 minutes before we have to rotate. It's also only possible to dance with 1/3 of the girls in class each day. I could write a 5-page essay about the girl I chased for two years. This sounds like stuff a friend would know. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Lonely Ronin Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 T-word alert TW, just saying.......... 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Divasu Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Perhaps if men read a girls profile and didnt base their emails off of her looks their responses would be different Some of them do, at least back when I did it. Some can be pretty lewd/sexual though and you start to become hardened from it and get pissy. But as it is the same for women, men should have their own weeding out process too. If you say hi to a woman on an online dating site and she responds with calling you an 'ugly midget', err...is that someone you want to date or that you want to base your self-esteem on? Now, if your first message to her is something like "nice t*ts, can I suck them", well you may then just deserve that type of response. Link to post Share on other sites
Lonely Ronin Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 In all this conversation, did you give these women any indication of your attraction? Or did you stay friendly-neutral? For example: What a perfect opportunity to flirt, and even ask her out! Did you jump on that? Better question is what did he tell her about himself? if he stuck to his normal mo, he told her almost nothing. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
ThaWholigan Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Somedude, let me ask you some questions: Do you read? How often? What kind of sh*t do you read? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Author somedude81 Posted April 1, 2013 Author Share Posted April 1, 2013 In all this conversation, did you give these women any indication of your attraction? Or did you stay friendly-neutral? The first girl did figure out my attraction to her before I asked her out. I'm not sure at what point she did, but she rejected my regardless. I'm not that good at being flirty-friendly though I'm trying more and better than I used to be. What a perfect opportunity to flirt, and even ask her out! Did you jump on that? She has a boyfriend. Which pretty much throws me for a loop considering how friendly she is towards me. Sigh... This sounds like stuff a friend would know. You mean that as a bad thing right? What should I know or not know about them? Better question is what did he tell her about himself? if he stuck to his normal mo, he told her almost nothing. That I'm currently a business major, likes computers and technology. Hates math. Taken dance classes more times than I can count. Took a couple of surfing classes. Played on a coed softball and flag football teams on campus. Graduating this year. There isn't much else to tell about myself that I would share with a girl without being closer. Link to post Share on other sites
blindotter Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 I was married to a guy who was 5'6 in my early 20s. We divorced after he went to federal prison on conspiracy charges; ever the super-slick salesman, that one. I once dated a total goob who was 6'7, that relationship lasted 3 months, maybe? Height doesn't matter. Knowing who you are and being unashamed of yourself is definitely more important. The thing is, getting with someone and having a relationship doesn't erase shame, it magnifies it. People idolize relationships like that is the ultimate goal in life, but if you are miserable before you get into the relationship you'll be 10 times more miserable when you have a partner. There are women who are overweight who are happy, and men who are short who are satisfied with themselves and their lives. External components don't really have that much value, at the end of the day. But focusing on those qualities can give you a more tangible excuse for being unhappy, though, I'll give you that. 4 Link to post Share on other sites
ThaWholigan Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 You mean that as a bad thing right? What should I know or not know about them? It's not exactly bad, but it ain't good . You gotta ask them different questions occasionally, or at least learn how to steer the conversation towards a more exciting path rather than the same old. She probably tells that stuff to everyone who is mildly acquainted. That I'm currently a business major, likes computers and technology. Hates math. Taken dance classes more times than I can count. Took a couple of surfing classes. Played on a coed softball and flag football teams on campus. Graduating this year. There isn't much else to tell about myself that I would share with a girl without being closer. Again, sounds like stuff only a friend would know. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
xxoo Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 She has a boyfriend. Which pretty much throws me for a loop considering how friendly she is towards me. Sigh... You'd find that out much sooner if you'd playfully asked her out the very first time she said she was happy to dance with you. You don't even need to seriously ask her out--just in the moment, "That can be arranged. When can I pick you up Friday night?" And she'll giggle, "I don't think my bf would like that..." and there will be no rejection or awkwardness because you weren't rejected....and then you say, "Let me know if anything changes." with a big grin. Just...flirt! Why take asking girls out so seriously? 2 Link to post Share on other sites
PJKino Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 You'd find that out much sooner if you'd playfully asked her out the very first time she said she was happy to dance with you. You don't even need to seriously ask her out--just in the moment, "That can be arranged. When can I pick you up Friday night?" And she'll giggle, "I don't think my bf would like that..." and there will be no rejection or awkwardness because you weren't rejected....and then you say, "Let me know if anything changes." with a big grin. Just...flirt! Why take asking girls out so seriously? Its easy for you to say just have fun and flirt when you're not the one doing it first.. for a man if a womens not attracted to him he can be called a creep or have women take it the wrong way which produces extreme awkwardness Link to post Share on other sites
Author somedude81 Posted April 1, 2013 Author Share Posted April 1, 2013 It's not exactly bad, but it ain't good . You gotta ask them different questions occasionally, or at least learn how to steer the conversation towards a more exciting path rather than the same old. She probably tells that stuff to everyone who is mildly acquainted.What different questions? I'm seriously drawing a blank. What's an exciting path? Again, sounds like stuff only a friend would know. Okay, and? You'd find that out much sooner if you'd playfully asked her out the very first time she said she was happy to dance with you. You don't even need to seriously ask her out--just in the moment, "That can be arranged. When can I pick you up Friday night?" And she'll giggle, "I don't think my bf would like that..." and there will be no rejection or awkwardness because you weren't rejected....and then you say, "Let me know if anything changes." with a big grin. Oh, I can do something like that. I've just never thought about jokingly asking out somebody before. Just...flirt! Why take asking girls out so seriously? Because it's a matter of life and death. OK it's not, but it sure feels that way. Link to post Share on other sites
ThaWholigan Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Its easy for you to say just have fun and flirt when you're not the one doing it first.. for a man if a womens not attracted to him he can be called a creep or have women take it the wrong way which produces extreme awkwardness Oh for goodness sake...... Get comfortable with that awkwardness. It's gonna happen. You will never get better at it if you don't f*cking do it. Yeah it's scary, I know. But it's worth it. Stop being scared of being called a creep or whatever - just f*cking do it. OMG my head is broken ......... 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Lonely Ronin Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Its easy for you to say just have fun and flirt when you're not the one doing it first.. for a man if a womens not attracted to him he can be called a creep or have women take it the wrong way which produces extreme awkwardness That's because some guys do act like creeps/weirdos...... I mean some of the pick up lines i have heard guys use are retarded overly sexually aggressive, or both. 5 Link to post Share on other sites
ThaWholigan Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 What different questions? I'm seriously drawing a blank. I know you are . It's why I asked you: Do you read? What do you read? And how often do you read? Simple.... What's an exciting path? Something naughty, or taboo, or just a little bit risque. Okay, and? You wanna go on a date with her? Start acting like a date. Tell her something about you that you don't tell your friends. Tell her something beyond just "I like computers and I play on the coed team" or whatever it is you tell them. You gotta have more sh*t to talk about. Because it's a matter of life and death. OK it's not, but it sure feels that way. That's your own fault why it feels that way. I keep telling you: try to find something else that is MORE IMPORTANT. Don't make it a bigger deal than it is. Stop taking it too seriously. Otherwise, you will always have this problem. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
PJKino Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 That's because some guys do act like creeps/weirdos...... I mean some of the pick up lines i have heard guys use are retarded overly sexually aggressive, or both. WHich is why those of us who cant flirt properly dont..and sometimes you can say the right thing but if a women finds you unattractive shell be turned off by it 1 Link to post Share on other sites
ThaWholigan Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 WHich is why those of us who cant flirt properly dont..and sometimes you can say the right thing but if a women finds you unattractive shell be turned off by it So what if she is turned off? You turn around, and you forget about it. Then maybe next time another woman WILL be turned on by it. But you will never get better at it unless you DO IT! 1 Link to post Share on other sites
xxoo Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Oh, I can do something like that. I've just never thought about jokingly asking out somebody before. It's light, it's easy, and it's low risk. And you can gauge from her response if she is interested in being seriously asked out. And, it will keep her from seeing you as "safe friend guy" if you refuse to act like "safe friend guy". 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Author somedude81 Posted April 1, 2013 Author Share Posted April 1, 2013 I know you are . It's why I asked you: Do you read? What do you read? And how often do you read? Simple.... Lets see. This forum Several video game websites and one anime forum. Something naughty, or taboo, or just a little bit risque. Sure I'll get right on that. .............uh line? You wanna go on a date with her? Start acting like a date. Tell her something about you that you don't tell your friends. Tell her something beyond just "I like computers and I play on the coed team" or whatever it is you tell them. You gotta have more sh*t to talk about. Obviously I don't want to tell her anything negative like my depression, how I've always had trouble with women and don't like being short. I rather not talk about my views on women and dating as that would turn her off. So there isn't much I would tell a girl that I wouldn't tell a friend. That's your own fault why it feels that way. I keep telling you: try to find something else that is MORE IMPORTANT. Don't make it a bigger deal than it is. Stop taking it too seriously. Otherwise, you will always have this problem. Link to post Share on other sites
Negative Nancy Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Many men aren't attracted to overweight women, many women aren't attracted to short men. Ok then, a short man is the equivalent to an old woman. :rolleyes: Link to post Share on other sites
ThaWholigan Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Lets see. This forum Several video game websites and one anime forum. If that is somewhat serious, that's a problem and that's why you struggle to ask questions about stuff. Read books. What about all that sh*t I sent you in the PMs? Read more books. Sure I'll get right on that. .............uh line? This isn't old school PUA, dude. No routines Obviously I don't want to tell her anything negative like my depression, how I've always had trouble with women and don't like being short. I rather not talk about my views on women and dating as that would turn her off. So there isn't much I would tell a girl that I wouldn't tell a friend. Of course - because you don't have a life outside of work, college stuff and how to get a GF. You don't even know what you want to do. Do you even think about anything else? That's astounding that you have nothing else to talk about other than mundane sh*t that friends talk about all the time. 4 Link to post Share on other sites
xxoo Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Its easy for you to say just have fun and flirt when you're not the one doing it first.. for a man if a womens not attracted to him he can be called a creep or have women take it the wrong way which produces extreme awkwardness Why is it awkward? Can't you laugh it off? The whole premise is that you are just joking around initially. Seriously--what is the worst that can happen? 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Author somedude81 Posted April 1, 2013 Author Share Posted April 1, 2013 If that is somewhat serious, that's a problem and that's why you struggle to ask questions about stuff. Read books. What about all that sh*t I sent you in the PMs? Read more books. I also fallow the news. And I read textbooks. I've downloaded a few of the things you sent me. Haven't gotten around to looking at them yet. This isn't old school PUA, dude. No routines But I have a poster of David Bowie on my wall! Of course - because you don't have a life outside of work, college stuff and how to get a GF. You don't even know what you want to do. Do you even think about anything else?I know exactly what I want to do. Career, life goals and love. That's astounding that you have nothing else to talk about other than mundane sh*t that friends talk about all the time.You make it sound like there is some super secret topic that I don't talk about. What do you expect me to talk about with girls that would attract them? Link to post Share on other sites
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