lexnmike4enomore Posted September 13, 2004 Share Posted September 13, 2004 From personal experience....which diet pill works the best. Trimspa, xanadrine, Stacker, ETC......... I know there are so many and i can chose. So any recommendations please respond Link to post Share on other sites
Papillon Posted September 13, 2004 Share Posted September 13, 2004 The best diet pills are the X-R-cise brand. In other words, diet pills are bulls***. Eat less, get plenty of excercise. That's the only way to diet. (130Kg - 85kg in 3 months. I know.) Link to post Share on other sites
moimeme Posted September 13, 2004 Share Posted September 13, 2004 Diet pills are bad for you. Unhealthy. Unsafe. Banish all the junk food and garbage from your house and don't buy it at fast food places. Choose healthy foods and learn to love eating them. That will give you a lifetime of healthy weight. Link to post Share on other sites
Papillon Posted September 13, 2004 Share Posted September 13, 2004 ^^^^^^ What she said ^^^^^^ Link to post Share on other sites
Naive Posted September 13, 2004 Share Posted September 13, 2004 I think diet pills are a real bad idea. An old friend of mine took some well known diet pills and she now suffers from leukemia. She is only 21. She was never overly big, but was just thick. A while back she decided she wanted to lose weight and started to take those pills. It took her appetite away little by little and she did not notice it. She became anemic without knowing it. After some time she started to feel real weak and when she went to the doctor they told her she had leukemia. She has undergone chemotherapy and has gone through a horrible experience. It seemed as if she was going to be ok, even though the doctors did inform her that she would not be able to have children because the chemotherapy had done something to her. She now has leukemia again. If she would have had a healthy diet maybe she would not be so sick now. Maybe you should think about it twice before you take any pills, they can be bad for you. I'm not saying this will happen to everyone, but I am sure that there are other stories out there that involve diet pills. Link to post Share on other sites
goodnbad Posted September 13, 2004 Share Posted September 13, 2004 Just curious, are you planning on eating diet pills for the rest of your life? You do know that once you stop taking them, your appetite will come back and you will be back where you started? FYI, diet pills are mainly appetite-suppressants. They will NOT burn fat for you. And whether they even suppress your appetite is debatable.....but no diet pill in the world will have an effect on weight loss if you don't cut back on eating anyhow. I think a lot of people are under the impression that you can just pop a pill and go on your merry way, eating the same way, not exercising, etc. and they will magically lose weight regardless. I think it's pathetic how drug companies ccan take advantage of peoples' desperation like that. I will admit that, way back when, I tried a few diet pills myself (of the now-banned ephedra kind) and although it does 'rev' you up, giving you more energy, you still have to exercise and eat better to lose weight.....AND they are dangerous! I had a few nocturnal seizures not long after taking them (I stopped them a few months before getting pregnant) and although the neurologist blames the pregnancy for those two seizures, I cannot help but wonder if the ephedra somehow screwed up the wiring. I had never had a seizure before the pills and haven't had any since those two (5 years ago). I do NOT think it was coincidence. I agree with the others that are saying, if you are really serious about wanting to lose weight, there is only one sure-fire and permanent way of doing it. And that would be the old tried, tested and true way: eat less, exercise more. Good luck! goodnbad Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Spock Posted September 13, 2004 Share Posted September 13, 2004 Really, all the other moral crap people posted above, your best bet is to google it, and do your research. There are online foreign pharmacies you can join that you can have perscription stuff (prescribed over the fone) and shipped to you. Shady? Probably. But don't dick around with the generic over the counter sh*t if you're serious about it. Talk to your doctor. If he won't prescribe them, at least you can get a medical opinion on which one is safest. Remember, Fenphen (or was it Phenfen?) worked for A LOT of people. It just also happened to kill others. Link to post Share on other sites
lexnmike4enomore Posted September 13, 2004 Share Posted September 13, 2004 Originally posted by Mr Spock Really, all the other moral crap people posted above, your best bet is to google it, and do your research. There are online foreign pharmacies you can join that you can have prescription stuff (prescribed over the fone) and shipped to you. Shady? Probably. But don't dick around with the generic over the counter sh*t if you're serious about it. Talk to your doctor. If he won't prescribe them, at least you can get a medical opinion on which one is safest. Remember, Fenphen (or was it Phenfen?) worked for A LOT of people. It just also happened to kill others. Thank you spock...thats all i wanted. I tried google and they said Trim Spa was rated #1. All those dont have ephedra and thats the drug that made them soooooooooooooooooooo bad. But i will have to exercise and all that mumbo jumbo and eat right. I just need top speed the process along. I have a wedding to go to and people haven't seen me in a while and I don't want to be the one where people go "Wow she got fat!" Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Spock Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 Trim Spa is an over the counter thing. http://www.foreign-pharmacies-online.com/ Look up stuff like Bontril-these are prescription medications for appetite suppression. I really would reccomend you consult a doctor before attempting to use stuff like that. Link to post Share on other sites
goodnbad Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 Mr Spock, holy cow, CHILL! Sorry for the 'moral stuff' and that it offended you, it was not intended at all, but when you've went that route and suffered, you hate to see anyone else fall through the cracks. If someone who wants to take the chance to go with what they consider to be the 'easy' route and dicker with pills, well, hey it's a free country, but I think knowing the facts is important, too. IMO, the only ones that really benefit from those pills are the companies that make 'em. With the exception of a few prescription meds (which are meant only for the morbidly obese and which I don't believe is what lexnmike was inquiring about), most of the pills available over the counter are just a bunch of crap placebos that empty your wallet and have the potential to do more harm than good. I believe that everyone should have the right to make a decision based on info gathered from both sides of the fence. ***peace*** goodnbad Link to post Share on other sites
moimeme Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 It's inane to call every bit of sense offered 'moral crap'. It's stupid to mess with your metabolism using unknown drugs. They are not in any way controlled and therefore can be very dangerous. So what we are doing is warning someone away from something potentiall dangerous. Not being 'moral'. Link to post Share on other sites
ladyangel Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 Originally posted by naive_2001 I think diet pills are a real bad idea. An old friend of mine took some well known diet pills and she now suffers from leukemia. She is only 21. She was never overly big, but was just thick. A while back she decided she wanted to lose weight and started to take those pills. It took her appetite away little by little and she did not notice it. She became anemic without knowing it. After some time she started to feel real weak and when she went to the doctor they told her she had leukemia. She has undergone chemotherapy and has gone through a horrible experience. It seemed as if she was going to be ok, even though the doctors did inform her that she would not be able to have children because the chemotherapy had done something to her. She now has leukemia again. If she would have had a healthy diet maybe she would not be so sick now. Maybe you should think about it twice before you take any pills, they can be bad for you. I'm not saying this will happen to everyone, but I am sure that there are other stories out there that involve diet pills. Diet pills in no way shape or form cause Leukemia. Remember, Fenphen (or was it Phenfen?) worked for A LOT of people. It just also happened to kill others. Was this intended as a joke? Phen-Fen did more than kill some people (as if that isn't enough). It caused a LOT of people enumerable problems. It "worked" for me too; i.e., I lost weight. It also caused me irreversible neurological problems, among other things. There were reasons for it being taken off the market. I don't bash all "diet pills" in general because I don't know about all diet pills. I do know that drinking lots and lots of water helps, along with exercising. I don't see any harm in taking over-the-counter diet pills (without ephedra, of course) for a short period of time. But like others have said, there's no guarantee that they will work. Link to post Share on other sites
Naive Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 Originally posted by ladyangel Diet pills in no way shape or form cause Leukemia. It was not the diet pills that gave her leukemia. It was because of the effects the diet pills had in her eating that she got leukemia. Her appetite went down and she ate less and less because the pills decreased her hunger. Because of this she did not get the balanced and healthy nutrition that she needed and she became anemic, time passed and she did not know she was anemic and it became into leukemia. Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Spock Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 Uh huh. What she asked for, and what you all gave her, were two different things. She asked what was the best "diet pill". I told her to go to her doctor for a prescription (I fear I have been spelling that wrong the entire thread) and if he wouldn't give her one, try an online foreign pharmacy. Don't waste your time with Trimspa, or the other ephedrea free junk. Now, if you're going to lecture on diet and exercise, fine. But at least offer some kind of opinion on the subject matter at hand if you're going to subject the viewing audience to your post. You're good at finding info on studies for stuff like this Moimeme, now would be a nice time to plop some of that info down. Yes, Phen-fen was bad for many people. There were also people buying the stuff in bulk when word that it was being taken off the market hit, because it worked well for them. There is a risk in any kind of meds you take, especially for something that's considered "frivolous". I don't really care what you put into your body-it's not mine, after all, but it's good to be aware of the risks regardless. And go for the stuff that actually works. Link to post Share on other sites
Normella Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 Okay. I took diet pills for two weeks last year (i had gained like 15 pounds and was too lazy to exercise) and it sucked. it sucked really bad. They made me really jittery and nervous. It was so pointless to take them because I lost a couple of pounds but gained them right back after I stopped taking them. Look. I'm not superskinny or overweight(I'm 5'7 and weigh about 130lbs), but I lost the weight I had gained like this: I ate all my carbs in the morning. I ate more fruits. I ate smaller portions throughout the day. I drank water and became friends with it. I exercised as much as possible (and since I'm not much of an exercing type of person, I settled for salsa dancing for like 40 minutes and doing crunches afterwards). I lost weight by actually eating more and exercising, too. Try that and you'll feel so much better because diet pills are like cheating. And you know you're better than that! Link to post Share on other sites
moimeme Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 One big disadvantage of diet pills one can buy over the counter is that they are not used under the care of a physician, so side effects may not be monitored. They have usually undergone only a fraction of the testing (if any testing at all) that one sees with prescription medications. Stated another way, the diet pill and supplement industry is very poorly regulated. http://my.webmd.com/content/article/87/99426.htm?lastselectedguid={5FE84E90-BC77-4056-A91C-9531713CA348} July 28, 2000 (Washington) -- People who take certain popular brands of over-the-counter diet pills run a much greater risk of having a stroke compared with those who don't use such medications. A new study from researchers at Yale University finds that weight loss preparations like Dexatrim and Acutrim can increase the odds of having a so-called hemorrhagic stroke 16-fold http://my.webmd.com/content/article/27/1728_59879.htm?lastselectedguid={5FE84E90-BC77-4056-A91C-9531713CA348} Ah. Forget it. She's made up her mind. I just wish her good luck. Link to post Share on other sites
pav186 Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 I recommend ephedra based diet pills...as long as you use them like youre supposed to you're fine. Most of the regular name brand ones (Xenadrine RFA-1, Stacker 2 & 3) were taken off shelves due to scaring the american public for no good reason. 100 people killed in over a decade (hot tap water kills 41 people a year...dont ask me how). If you use it safely, drink water and not in 100 degree weather you'll be fine. But i'm not doctor so you may want to check with him to make sure you dont have a preexisting condition that could be aggravated. Oh yeah, use it normally along with good exercise and diet. You can still find ephedra legally online...just google ephedra hcl. Its sold legally as a broncial dialator but in smaller doses. I'll find out how much is in my stackers once i find my bottle...which ive missplaced. my 2c Link to post Share on other sites
Papillon Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 I'll say it straight - anyone who even CONTEMPLATES using diet pills is a dumbass, and is blind to the little trap they've stepped into. The manufacturers are giggling with glee. And just to tone down the "morality" in my previous sentence, I'm going to say "s***". Link to post Share on other sites
tokyo Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 Originally posted by naive_2001 Because of this she did not get the balanced and healthy nutrition that she needed and she became anemic, time passed and she did not know she was anemic and it became into leukemia. I´m not a doctor, but I doubt that being anemic leads to leukemia. Link to post Share on other sites
lexnmike4enomore Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 Thanks to all the people that were helpful in letting me know WHICH DIET PILL WORKS. I didn't ask for medical advice or someone telling me "Thats wrong" or "Don't do that" "Thats very bad" Next time i want medical advice......ill ask my doctor. Link to post Share on other sites
Papillon Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 Well, how about then next time you want advice on which diet pill is the "best", go watch a ****ing infomercial. Or something. Link to post Share on other sites
tokyo Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 I think what they wanted to say was: all diet pills are cr@p, you should not take them and therefore they suggested other ways to lose weight. Link to post Share on other sites
lexnmike4enomore Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 Originally posted by Papillon Well, how about then next time you want advice on which diet pill is the "best", go watch a ****ing infomercial. Or something. Who wants to stay up till 5 in the morning to do that! :lmao: Link to post Share on other sites
Papillon Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 Bah...who cares? It's her cash she's gonna swallow and s*** out. Link to post Share on other sites
lexnmike4enomore Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 Thanx for the Advice! Link to post Share on other sites
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