Do you ever feel like you are old fashioned?

[Woggle]

I am far from a right wing conservative. I support gay marriage and I am open minded to anything as long as it is done honestly and without hurting anybody.

 

That being said I can't stand cheaters because it is lying to somebody and deceiving them when they trust you and believe you are a faithful partner. Betraying a person's trust like that is one of the lowest things you can do. I also think Ashley Madison is just vile.

 

Because of these views I sometimes feel like myself and people who feel like me are looked at like we are judgmental conservatives who want everybody to live like the 1950s.

 

Am I just out of step with the modern world?

[tbf]

Cheating happened a lot in the 1950s but people were less open about it.

[loversquarrel]

I am an Old school traditionalist.

 

Old fashioned = Old school = High class = Sexy

 

What's wrong with that???

[todreaminblue]

I am far from a right wing conservative. I support gay marriage and I am open minded to anything as long as it is done honestly and without hurting anybody.

 

That being said I can't stand cheaters because it is lying to somebody and deceiving them when they trust you and believe you are a faithful partner. Betraying a person's trust like that is one of the lowest things you can do. I also think Ashley Madison is just vile.

 

Because of these views I sometimes feel like myself and people who feel like me are looked at like we are judgmental conservatives who want everybody to live like the 1950s.

 

Am I just out of step with the modern world?

 

I am conservative when it comes to gay marriage, marriage in general and cheating........I think everyone has a right to prsonal opinion and how they choose to live their life though...doesnt mean i have to agree....deb

[soccerrprp]

I am far from a right wing conservative. I support gay marriage and I am open minded to anything as long as it is done honestly and without hurting anybody.

 

That being said I can't stand cheaters because it is lying to somebody and deceiving them when they trust you and believe you are a faithful partner. Betraying a person's trust like that is one of the lowest things you can do. I also think Ashley Madison is just vile.

 

Because of these views I sometimes feel like myself and people who feel like me are looked at like we are judgmental conservatives who want everybody to live like the 1950s.

 

Am I just out of step with the modern world?

 

This is not "old-fashioned." This is what the vast majority of free-thinking human beings want. No one wants a cheater.

 

As per the 50s, it was good for anglo-saxon, white males with a career, but less than ideal for the rest of society and worse for women and especially minorities.

 

It would be nuts for anyone to equate not wanting to be cheated with being old-fashioned. This implies that you think that modern people WANT to be cheated on...or am I missing something here?

[carhill]

Am I just out of step with the modern world?

 

Out of step with mainstream culture, perhaps. If you feel 'old-fashioned' now, wait until you're my age, or older. It'll be an interesting ride. The caveat is we can never go back; time, as we currently know it, always moves forward. We evolve. The choices of how are ours.

[ses]

Cheating is absolutely vile. Period. Anyone who defends it is morally reprehensible and someone with whom I would not want to personally associate with in life. Trust and commitment are important aspects of any relationship especially between intimate partners. Don't let anyone suggest otherwise. Apparently the husband-wife team of AshleyMadison defend their venture because it's profitable, but of course the wife would never permit infidelity within her own marriage. What a bunch of hypocritical jerks.

[xxoo]

I don't think I know anyone IRL who acts like cheating is no big deal. Even those who've cheated have recognized that it is scandalous.

[underwater2010]

I am far from a right wing conservative. I support gay marriage and I am open minded to anything as long as it is done honestly and without hurting anybody.

 

That being said I can't stand cheaters because it is lying to somebody and deceiving them when they trust you and believe you are a faithful partner. Betraying a person's trust like that is one of the lowest things you can do. I also think Ashley Madison is just vile.

 

Because of these views I sometimes feel like myself and people who feel like me are looked at like we are judgmental conservatives who want everybody to live like the 1950s.

 

Am I just out of step with the modern world?

You are not out of step with modern times. You just are not "Politically Correct". lol There are a ton of us that think cheating and websites that promote it are vile. That does not make us old fashion. It means that we are people that value honesty and moral behavior.

[loversquarrel]

Don't let people who want to normalize their immoral behavior by pretending you are the odd ball, get away with it. You are NOT old fashioned for believing in ethics, you are simply a decent human being.

 

I'm a feminist, a socialist, pro-gay marriage, atheist, environmentalist, I am rabidly progressive. So I won't hear I'm a dinosaur for thinking lying and banging everyone is okay. Having morals IS a liberal ideology, conservatives LACK ethics which is why they pretend their selfish political agendas are the cornerstone of morality. Those folks were pro slavery, they were anti woman, anti education, anti freedom of religion, pro segregation, etc. their only "moral" is the "freedom" to exploit others and thats why they pretend that those who deny them the "freedom" to lie, cheat, and steal are just parade pissers... selfishness is the cornerstone of conservatism and the cornerstone of cheats...

 

Really? The Republican Abraham Lincoln was pro-slavery? So Jefferson Davis and the southern democrats were anti-slavery? Wow...somebody fell asleep during history class....

 

Liberalism and conservatism are relatively more modern terms applied to one's political beliefs.

[Woggle]

The republicans were the liberals of their day back when Lincoln was in charge. The Whigs was the Conservative party then.

 

Exactly. The pro slavery people back then whined about states rights and big government just like today's conservatives do.

[loversquarrel]

So what were the democrats?

 

Go live in corporate free socialist North Korea.

[Woggle]

The biggest change happened in the 60s when southerners threw a hissy fit over LBJ signing the civil rights act. They all went to the republicans who exploited that anger for votes.

[johan]

I don't see how being opposed to infidelity makes you old fashioned.

[Woggle]

I don't see how being opposed to infidelity makes you old fashioned.

 

Some people think it is. I once had somebody tell me that cheaters are just as oppressed and discriminated against as gays.

[xxoo]

Some people think it is. I once had somebody tell me that cheaters are just as oppressed and discriminated against as gays.

 

Are you sure they weren't just trying to disparage the struggle of gay people?

 

Anyway, people will have their opinions. Doesn't mean it's a reasonable opinion, or a common one.

[johan]

Some people think it is. I once had somebody tell me that cheaters are just as oppressed and discriminated against as gays.

 

How do you turn "some people", which I interpret as "some whacked people", into a modern movement?

[Woggle]

How do you turn "some people", which I interpret as "some whacked people", into a modern movement?

 

Because I am started to hear a good number of people who defend cheating and act like you are some uptight conservative if you are against it.

[amaysngrace]

Because I am started to hear a good number of people who defend cheating and act like you are some uptight conservative if you are against it.

 

They just want you and the misses to swing.

[johan]

Because I am started to hear a good number of people who defend cheating and act like you are some uptight conservative if you are against it.

 

Are you backsliding?

[Woggle]

Are you backsliding?

 

Not at all. This has nothing to do with gender. The thing that inspired this thread was I was talking to the cashier at the supermarket about how Tiger Woods is just going to cheat on Lindsey Vonn like he cheated on his ex and the guy behind said to lay off his case because only super religious people are monogamous these days. It made me feel like a freak for believing people shouldn't lie to each other like that.

[johan]

Not at all. This has nothing to do with gender. The thing that inspired this thread was I was talking to the cashier at the supermarket about how Tiger Woods is just going to cheat on Lindsey Vonn like he cheated on his ex and the guy behind said to lay off his case because only super religious people are monogamous these days. It made me feel like a freak for believing people shouldn't lie to each other like that.

 

He was probably just a Tiger fan. If he wants to be dumbass, let him. There's no reason to take what one idiot standing in line at the grocery store says as the truth of the world. Certainly no reason for you to let him make you question your whole world view. He was probably on the way to meet his own girlfriend, and you reminded him he had a wife and kids at home.

 

And who cares anyway. Be old fashioned if it means living a better life.

 

What these things often boil down to, when you let them get to you, is your fundamental distrust of your own wife. And if that's what is going on, then you're backsliding.

[Woggle]

He was probably just a Tiger fan. If he wants to be dumbass, let him. There's no reason to take what one idiot standing in line at the grocery store says as the truth of the world. Certainly no reason for you to let him make you question your whole world view. He was probably on the way to meet his own girlfriend, and you reminded him he had a wife and kids at home.

 

And who cares anyway. Be old fashioned if it means living a better life.

 

What these things often boil down to, when you let them get to you, is your fundamental distrust of your own wife. And if that's what is going on, then you're backsliding.

 

I don't distrust her at all. I just find it odd that simply believing and honesty and decency makes you some sort of freak these days. If this is the way things are headed I would rather be a freak but it is sad when you think about it.

[johan]

I don't distrust her at all. I just find it odd that simply believing and honesty and decency makes you some sort of freak these days. If this is the way things are headed I would rather be a freak but it is sad when you think about it.

 

Like I said, you can't go concluding you're a freak because a short statement by a hothead idiot at the grocery store, who you know absolutely nothing about, contradicts your values. He didn't even say the word "freak". That was your own invention.

[johan]

Maybe you can vilify him like you did the women in your past who made similar statements. Take note that stupidity and low behavior is not the domain of women. Parts of society are broken, like they have been for as long as there have been societies.