Do you think most women end up settling with a guy who is less attractive than them?

[pbjbear]

Well, I can't fault SD's dislike for not wanting to date fat women.

 

I can't do it. It's the #1 deal breaker on my list.

 

I can't even love my own mother because she is 280+ pounds herself and has been that way for over a decade. If that doesn't reek of pure laziness, I don't know what is.

 

I give SD that much. As for everything else, everyone else here has been a better job handling it than I can.

 

Are you fat? Are you in good shape?

 

Somedude, are you fat? Are you in good shape?

Edited April 8, 2013 by pbjbear

[ltjg45]

Are you fat? Are you in good shape?

 

I'm 170 pounds and is starting to eat a lot more fruit because I told my mother I rather kill myself before I go past 200 pounds.

 

To go anywhere near her weight is inexcusable.

 

So I'm in OK-ish shape. I do want to knock off 50 pounds off of this body and go back down to 120 where I belong.

[pbjbear]

I'm 170 pounds and is starting to eat a lot more fruit because I told my mother I rather kill myself before I go past 200 pounds.

 

To go anywhere near her weight is inexcusable.

 

So I'm in OK-ish shape. I do want to knock off 50 pounds off of this body and go back down to 120 where I belong.

 

 

So you need to lose 50 lbs, but you refuse to date a woman who isnt "very attractive" and there are none in the US.

 

I saw your post where you said you are looking into dating women in Russia, because they are "very attractive"

 

WTF is up with these nonhot men expecting hot women??? GAH it makes me so angry!!!

[mesmerized]

I'm 170 pounds and is starting to eat a lot more fruit because I told my mother I rather kill myself before I go past 200 pounds.

 

To go anywhere near her weight is inexcusable.

 

So I'm in OK-ish shape. I do want to knock off 50 pounds off of this body and go back down to 120 where I belong.

 

You better be really short because 120 on a guy with average height is just grossly thin.

[pbjbear]

What's wrong with being fat? To those who put down fat people, does that make you look good?

 

 

What gets me is the number of men on this site that say they could lose weight and yet expect a hot woman to fall out of the sky and be willing to date him.

[mesmerized]

What gets me is the number of men on this site that say they could lose weight and yet expect a hot woman to fall out of the sky and be willing to date him.

 

Relax girl, it's not like they can easily get the hot women.

[pbjbear]

Relax girl, it's not like they can easily get the hot women.

 

 

Thank the lord for that. But I would never want to date a guy with that sense of entitlement. Sadly, most men have this sense of entitlement!!!!

[ltjg45]

So you need to lose 50 lbs, but you refuse to date a woman who isnt "very attractive" and there are none in the US.

 

I saw your post where you said you are looking into dating women in Russia, because they are "very attractive"

 

WTF is up with these nonhot men expecting hot women??? GAH it makes me so angry!!!

 

I'm not looking for a hot woman. I'm looking for a date-worthy woman. I know I stand no chance with a hot/attractive woman.

 

The women down here either already has boyfriends that I wouldn't even want to speak to (talk about jerks to the top degree), is even worse shape than I am, or her personality is so disgusting, I rather fight her than try to get into a relationship with her.

 

I don't deal with anyone that smokes so that crosses out half of my accessible dating pool right there as I'm getting sick of inhaling cigarette smoke from nearby smokers.

 

There is one black female that looks like she is religious that I may approach this coming Saturday but I'm concerned about how much she reads the Bible and whether or not she is going to shove that down my throat. Nevertheless, I will see how that goes.

 

Russian women has personalities/hobbies that makes US women look bad in general. (Keep in mind this is strictly off of dating profiles so I don't know how true that really is.) Of course, their overall attractiveness is, in my opinion, a higher range as well however it is not my main goal to aim at when I'm looking for possible dating partners.

 

If what you said is true, which is I'm only aiming for a hot woman and nothing more, I would have approached far more than 3 women in my entire life. I still need the personality, even if that wasn't mentioned when we first met.

 

You are literally basing my post as to think I only care about what is on the outside. That couldn't get any more false.

[ltjg45]

What's wrong with being fat? To those who put down fat people, does that make you look good?

 

I don't "put down" fat people.

 

I just won't date them.

 

Anyone who goes over 200 pounds is considered "fat" in my mind.

[ltjg45]

Are you sure? I shouldn't single you out because the overweight are relentlessly attacked.

 

I didn't know stating that I won't date fat women is called "attacking" them.

 

Now, in order to be a good male, I need to accept dating women whose weight is not acceptable whatsoever on my own body?

[ltjg45]

I'm confident that right now I'm better than you.

 

I'm sure you are. You and thousands of other males out there.

 

Thanks for letting me know though.

[Badsingularity]

I'm fat and my wife is not.

 

I guess I'm breaking all the rules.

 

[ltjg45]

I was showing you what a d-bag sounds like. And then hoping you would re-read your post and see if you saw any similarities between the two.

 

I'm starting to wonder if you know what a d-bag is.

 

Because they are FAR worse than this.

 

Today, at the card shop, I saw this one decent-looking male (he is clearly better looking than me) who brought his girlfriend with him. While he is in a game, he lets his girlfriend actually feed his food in his mouth while he plays.

 

I can't help but to wonder if she was forced to come down there. She clearly isn't happy and that guy looks like one of those "macho" types.

 

I know personally that I would NEVER force anyone to go to a place that they have no interest in.

 

That is a D-bag. I consider myself better than that.

[pbjbear]

I don't "put down" fat people.

 

I just won't date them.

 

Anyone who goes over 200 pounds is considered "fat" in my mind.

 

My b then. Your definition is fat is very different from most men's definition though. I'm 5'4 118 lbs and most men would consider me fat if I went up to 130.

[ltjg45]

You stated that you can't even love your own mother because of her weight.

 

Which is true. I can't.

 

She decided to not work for over a decade.

She decided to stay at home and play computer games.

She decided to constantly order fast food despite I told her multiple times we can't afford it.

She decided to rage against my grandmother despite my grandmother has bailed her out multiple times due to her failure to take care of bills.

She decided to stay with a man, who was also married to another woman, that used her as nothing more than a toy. That man happens to be my father and he is the reason why I have such hatred in my heart.

 

She decided to do nothing to better herself and, instead, wants to whine at least 4-5 times a week due to the situation she put herself in and you expect me to be "nice" to her? Sounds insanely familiar?

 

Not my problem. She is responsible for her actions and, frankly, I'm getting sick and tired of her whining about her weight when she has clearly did nothing to correct it.

 

You know nothing about this situation and what I had to go through in my childhood. Regardless of whether or not it is valid, I definitely have my reasons.

[ltjg45]

Date who you want, but when someone excludes all fat people or all short people and cries that they can't get a date, I can't respect that.

 

It's funny you mention the bolded because my issue is finding women worth dating, not crying because I have been approaching and failing.

 

Are you autistic?

 

I wouldn't be surprised if I am after reading the definition on Wikipedia.

 

I was never told that directly however.

[Woggle]

Both my wife and I are healthy weight.

[Noproblem]

Which is true. I can't.

 

She decided to not work for over a decade.

She decided to stay at home and play computer games.

She decided to constantly order fast food despite I told her multiple times we can't afford it.

She decided to rage against my grandmother despite my grandmother has bailed her out multiple times due to her failure to take care of bills.

She decided to stay with a man, who was also married to another woman, that used her as nothing more than a toy. That man happens to be my father and he is the reason why I have such hatred in my heart.

 

She decided to do nothing to better herself and, instead, wants to whine at least 4-5 times a week due to the situation she put herself in and you expect me to be "nice" to her? Sounds insanely familiar?

 

Not my problem. She is responsible for her actions and, frankly, I'm getting sick and tired of her whining about her weight when she has clearly did nothing to correct it.

 

You know nothing about this situation and what I had to go through in my childhood. Regardless of whether or not it is valid, I definitely have my reasons.

 

I can understand your feelings, but truly hating them will not make you feel good, it will make you feel worse

[somedude81]

You aren't average, either. The 30 year old who has never had a relationship is not average.

Yup, just by looking at me, a girl can tell I've never had a GF and immediately it turns everybody off.

But when you are comparing "attractiveness", a woman who can not get a date is comparable to a man who can not get a date. The reasons they each can not get a date may be different, but their attractiveness in the dating game is comparable.

Your post doesn't make any sense.

 

How is it comparable at all?

 

I'd also like to point out that the OP can get dates. She's just not attracted to the men in her league and wants the guys who are better looking than she is.

It is a very strange phenomena I observe on these forums that a woman who desires a man at her attractiveness level or above is seen as shallow, but a guy who does the same with women isnt. In fact, he is just "being a guy"

I do not believe that anybody, man or woman, who wants somebody at their attractiveness level is shallow.

 

Only when a person exclusively desires people who are more attractive then they are, just because they are better looking, that is when they are shallow. Once again, men and women.

Are you fat? Are you in good shape?

 

Somedude, are you fat? Are you in good shape?

No I'm not fat. I would say that my shape is fairly good.

 

Of course I do not have my ideal body and am working towards getting it.

[KungFuJoe]

Shallow doesn't exist.

[ltjg45]

I can understand your feelings, but truly hating them will not make you feel good, it will make you feel worse

 

I understand that.

 

This is why, despite I don't like doing this whatsoever, I'm still here taking full control of everything financially within the household and doing all I can to make everyone in it as happy as possible.

 

I'm currently behind on both the Light & Water and the Cable bill. I do have a working interview for a night-time position at a nearby bakery that would pay me $400 a week.

 

If I get this job, I will finally be back on track, take care of these bills once and for all, and I can start planning to move on.

 

This is what I have to deal with since I was 14. Believe me when I said this: I take no joy or pride being in this position.

[Noproblem]

I understand that.

 

This is why, despite I don't like doing this whatsoever, I'm still here taking full control of everything financially within the household and doing all I can to make everyone in it as happy as possible.

 

I'm currently behind on both the Light & Water and the Cable bill. I do have a working interview for a night-time position at a nearby bakery that would pay me $400 a week.

 

If I get this job, I will finally be back on track, take care of these bills once and for all, and I can start planning to move on.

 

This is what I have to deal with since I was 14. Believe me when I said this: I take no joy or pride being in this position.

 

I know this feelings, it's not the same as your story, and yes I have to live it ....but we can't choose who our parents are

 

You are doing the best you can, and yeah I hope you'll be back to track as soon as possible

[Mme. Chaucer]

 

And no, when there are only three girls out of twenty in my class that are fat, THEY ARE NOT AVERAGE.

 

It doesn't matter whether it's fatness, big noses, shortness, a double chin, a flat chest or whatever. You are dismissing people because they don't LOOK GOOD ENOUGH FOR YOU. If it's shallow for the OP, it's shallow for you.

 

I bet you've been called on this literally over 100 times here. Why do you criticize women for having a "looks" standard and expect people to take yours seriously? It's an atrocious double standard.

 

So carry on, but give the accusations of shallowness a break, unless you are leveling them at yourself.

[somedude81]

It doesn't matter whether it's fatness, big noses, shortness, a double chin, a flat chest or whatever. You are dismissing people because they don't LOOK GOOD ENOUGH FOR YOU. If it's shallow for the OP, it's shallow for you.

 

I bet you've been called on this literally over 100 times here. Why do you criticize women for having a "looks" standard and expect people to take yours seriously? It's an atrocious double standard.

 

So carry on, but give the accusations of shallowness a break, unless you are leveling them at yourself.

If the bold and capital letters didn't get my post across to you then nothing will.

 

You might as well stop asking.

[ThaWholigan]

It doesn't matter whether it's fatness, big noses, shortness, a double chin, a flat chest or whatever. You are dismissing people because they don't LOOK GOOD ENOUGH FOR YOU. If it's shallow for the OP, it's shallow for you.

 

I bet you've been called on this literally over 100 times here. Why do you criticize women for having a "looks" standard and expect people to take yours seriously? It's an atrocious double standard.

 

So carry on, but give the accusations of shallowness a break, unless you are leveling them at yourself.

Its what happens when you subscribe to a philosophy (leagues) and that very same philosophy dismantles your own argument.