Do you think most women end up settling with a guy who is less attractive than them?

[Weezy1973]

Its because you are a male that when you are about and about that you you judge females more attractive than males. That's the intention of nature that you as a male find them attractive and not men, but its also the intention of nature to have women find men desirable. Why the hell would nature create a massive imbalance like that in a species, unless the males just inseminate the females using brute force so they have no say in the matter, whereby strength becomes the desirable trait to pass on to her offspring. A handsome face might be a great attribute now for a man, but as far as the last 200k years, it didn't make any difference when it came to putting food on the table, or help to build his dwelling or fight another tribe.

 

We also inherit genes from both mother & father, so its not like each generation of boys stay stagnant with 'ugly' as the girls get all the 'good'.

Using your logic, you could say only 10% of stallions are as good looking creatures as mares, only 10% of male chimps are as attractive animals as female chimps, and that's crazy.

 

Snagging a good looking guy for a FWB/STR is not the same a LTR, which I would consider a more reliable measure of your standing in the desirability stakes. When it comes to relationships, its not possible for all women to settle down with less attractive men. This would mean the ones missing out on LTRs are the really handsome men (who hardly any women are good enough for) and the really unattractive women (who cant go lower). The hookup culture and erosion of monogamy has changed the landscape somewhat.

 

I actually believe there is a discrepancy as well - I think there are more attractive women than men. I think there are many sexually reproducing species where one sex is more beautiful than the other. But I think for us, the primary reason is that women's looks have more to do with things they have control over and men's looks are primarily due to genetics.

 

A short guy is generally considered less attractive than a tall guy - completely genetic. A guy that loses his hair is less attractive (generally) and again that's genetics. For both sexes, being healthy and fit will increase their attractiveness, but even in this case, a women could focus on just cardio and have a nice slim figure, whereas men would have to put in more time, effort, and include strength training to achieve a similarly attractive physique. I also think age diminishes looks about equally in both sexes, but women have more socially acceptable techniques to mask the signs of aging (which in itself sounds like a moisturizer commercial).

 

I also think this evens out in the end as for a lot of women their overall attraction encompasses more than just looks, whereas for most men, their overall attraction is primarily looks based.

[Noproblem]

Men age far better than women. Men age like a fine wine whereas women spoil like milk.

 

Whatever, I know you'll end up falling too hard for a girl who is older than you.

So yeah you men age better, who cares

[Poppy fields]

Men age far better than women. Men age like a fine wine whereas women spoil like milk.

 

I am 39 and my husband is 31. I still have an extensive shelf life remaining. I think. I hope.

[Djz05]

I am 39 and my husband is 31. I still have an extensive shelf life remaining. I think. I hope.

 

Yes, You do

[mortensorchid]

Looks are important to all of us, no matter what we say otherwise. But honestly, in my experience, it's not what's on the surface it's the total package. People have told me that I am pretty all my life, but do you think that I have had good luck with men? Not really. Quite honestly, I think a majority of men want someone who is lesser than they are - they want a woman who will bow down to them and do what they are told. They want someone who has less charisma than they do, who will just be in the shadows. They certainly do not want someone who is educated and sophisticated. Given the choice they will choose trashy girls rather than ones who are worth it.

 

My second to last serious bf actually said to me once that he wasn't going to do any better than me. He was certainly less attractive than me, he had less charisma than me. He said I was the best thing that ever happened to him. And one day he lashed out and turned into a monster. Those were his true colors.

[Poppy fields]

Why would I dream of older women being miserable? I don't concern myself with such thoughts.

 

I guess because you said they spoiled? I am sure you were joking as you do not concern yourself with such thoughts. I think everyone else was joking, too. So, everyone's thoughts are pure, and we can talk about group sex or something now.

[Poppy fields]

Looks are important to all of us, no matter what we say otherwise. But honestly, in my experience, it's not what's on the surface it's the total package. People have told me that I am pretty all my life, but do you think that I have had good luck with men? Not really. Quite honestly, I think a majority of men want someone who is lesser than they are - they want a woman who will bow down to them and do what they are told. They want someone who has less charisma than they do, who will just be in the shadows. They certainly do not want someone who is educated and sophisticated. Given the choice they will choose trashy girls rather than ones who are worth it.

 

My second to last serious bf actually said to me once that he wasn't going to do any better than me. He was certainly less attractive than me, he had less charisma than me. He said I was the best thing that ever happened to him. And one day he lashed out and turned into a monster. Those were his true colors.

 

Wow, you have meet some winners.

[Poppy fields]

The analogy may have been over the top, but my point still stands. Men seem to deteriorate quicker towards the end tho. (which is a different theory of mine) So I guess it all evens out.

 

Group sex is bueno. Depending on the group.

 

Men die younger, statistically. My husband's family has a history of heart problems. I fully expect to outlive him, even though I am older. Then I will pick out the youngest guy at the senior center and get my groove back.

[Radu]

To the girls and women reading this.

 

Please please PLEASE don't settle for us.

Please.

 

If you had fun for 15yrs going for bad boys while we were left to the side like a broken something, the biggest insult would be to settle for us after you've had your fill.

Because while we were left to the side watching you make tracks we felt used [and in some cases were used], the last thing we want is to be used again.

 

Go and have fun, because we don't want to wake up one morning when you're 45 with you missing the old days and getting a 20yr old boytoy after you took the kids, the house, half the money and a big chunk of our paycheck.

 

Just have some decency and stick with your own choice.

[somedude81]

To the girls and women reading this.

 

Please please PLEASE don't settle for us.

Please.

 

If you had fun for 15yrs going for bad boys while we were left to the side like a broken something, the biggest insult would be to settle for us after you've had your fill.

Because while we were left to the side watching you make tracks we felt used [and in some cases were used], the last thing we want is to be used again.

 

Go and have fun, because we don't want to wake up one morning when you're 45 with you missing the old days and getting a 20yr old boytoy after you took the kids, the house, half the money and a big chunk of our paycheck.

 

Just have some decency and stick with your own choice.

Forget you, I want a girl to settle for me.

 

Getting used has to be a hell of a lot better than beating off to porn.

[Radu]

Oh, and to answer the thread, i think some do settle, but not most.

[Radu]

Forget you, I want a girl to settle for me.

 

Getting used has to be a hell of a lot better than beating off to porn.

 

Depends on the person, after having your ego stamped several times while in relationships with women who were somewhat abusive [emotional and psychological], you learn to value that a lot.

 

Between married women wanting for something on the side, stupid women, girls with daddy issues, and in the last resort prostitutes, i don't think men have it that bad with the lack of sex.

[USMCHokie]

If you had fun for 15yrs going for bad boys while we were left to the side like a broken something, the biggest insult would be to settle for us after you've had your fill.

 

No, the biggest insult is to settle for us and then make us pay for the child(ren) she had with said bad boys. I mean, that's why she eventually picks you anyway, right?

[somedude81]

Depends on the person, after having your ego stamped several times while in relationships with women who were somewhat abusive [emotional and psychological], you learn to value that a lot.

Sounds like it might be a little interesting. Though odds are I wouldn't tolerate it for long. I'd just make sure to get as much sex as possible out of it. If there's no sex, then I wouldn't even bother.

Between married women wanting for something on the side, stupid women, girls with daddy issues, and in the last resort prostitutes, i don't think men have it that bad with the lack of sex.

Since I haven't had a sex life at all, nothing even close to it, I figure I'm the authority in saying that nothing is worse than a lack of sex.

[miss_jaclynrae]

Not all attractive guys are players,I've dyed some really sweet hotties.

[miss_jaclynrae]

I hate my phone. Lol

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I've DATED some sweet guys.

Not to mention the one I am with now is sexy and pretty damn awesome.

;D

[Mme. Chaucer]

To the girls and women reading this.

 

Please please PLEASE don't settle for us.

Please.

 

If you had fun for 15yrs going for bad boys while we were left to the side like a broken something, the biggest insult would be to settle for us after you've had your fill.

Because while we were left to the side watching you make tracks we felt used [and in some cases were used], the last thing we want is to be used again.

 

 

Just have some decency and stick with your own choice.

 

If someone prefers to have a partner who hasn't had a lot of different sexual partners or whatever, I respect that.

 

But if someone has been doing what's referred to as "sowing wild oats" when men do it and then they have a change of values, and what they want in their life, and they go for it - and it happens to look like YOU - that does not necessarily mean you were settled for. It might mean that you were the biggest blessing that person ever had.

[somedude81]

Not all attractive guys are players,I've dyed some really sweet hotties.

 

I hate my phone. Lol

 

 

I think you meant killed. Dyed isn't the correct usage.

 

And no the FBI aren't on the way to your house.

[USMCHokie]

But if someone has been doing what's referred to as "sowing wild oats" when men do it and then they have a change of values, and what they want in their life...

 

But what usually prompts this moment...? Why (or how) does a woman (or a man) wake up one day and have a sudden change of values and desires in life?

 

Is it desperation...?

[tbf]

No. Not at all.

 

Actually, just this morning I was reading a story about an NFL quarterback who married a gal who played on his college's softball team. She's cute and all, but he's tall, handsome, famous, an athlete and rich. He could have any number of 10s to choose from.

 

Yet, he chose a gal he clicked with. His name is Jake Locker.

 

Yet, somehow people here (and elsewhere) who have much less going on I'm sure believe they deserve the absolute very best when it comes to everything.

From the looks of Jake Locker's wedding photos, I'd say he did just fine with her.

 

Jake Locker « Fleming Photography Studio Blog

 

If you're gauging him as better looking, I'd beg to differ.

[miss_jaclynrae]

But what usually prompts this moment...? Why (or how) does a woman (or a man) wake up one day and have a sudden change of values and desires in life?

 

Is it desperation...?

 

 

 

It's called growing up...

[ScreamingTrees]

It's called growing up...

 

What exactly is the thought process behind this, "growing up"? I think that's what he's asking. What exactly is the need for a change of morals and values/lifestyle?

[Poppy fields]

What exactly is the thought process behind this, "growing up"? I think that's what he's asking. What exactly is the need for a change of morals and values/lifestyle?

 

Maybe they are tried of, and bored, of the same old **** and want to make a change.

[Mme. Chaucer]

But what usually prompts this moment...? Why (or how) does a woman (or a man) wake up one day and have a sudden change of values and desires in life?

 

Is it desperation...?

 

No! Not in my case, anyway, not at all.

 

I don't think I have ever experienced desperation with regards to getting in a relationship. Not that it's been so easy - but I would NEVER get into one out of a sense of desperation. I've been fine with the idea of being alone for years.

 

I didn't wake up one day suddenly with a change of values. I grew up.

 

I don't want the same things at all today that I did in my 20's. It's been a long road, and wanting a different kind of relationship with a different kind of man has been part of it.

 

He doesn't feel settled for; I'm sure he feels loved. He is!

[Mme. Chaucer]

From the looks of Jake Locker's wedding photos, I'd say he did just fine with her.

 

Jake Locker « Fleming Photography Studio Blog

 

If you're gauging him as better looking, I'd beg to differ.

 

Wow, I really agree. I think she is quite a bit more good looking than he is. But they're a cute couple. Weird choice as an example of a man "settling" though.