Do you think most women end up settling with a guy who is less attractive than them?

[phineas]

Yeah, I recall a rather narcissistic woman stating, "I'm attracted to my equal in looks"

 

She was rather attractive, (still over 40 and single till this day), so she found most balding, unfit guys contacting her constantly.

 

Attraction is never truly as simple as looks matching up, no matter what any studies say .

 

As for most women settling - I know quite a few women who have at some point. Almost to the point where both her and the SO have APs.

 

Do I think its shallow to want a good looking partner/one you're attracted to? No I don't actually.......well, it depends. Are you looking for attractive at the expense of anything else? Then yeah, that's shallow. But some people are generally shallow and not very deep. I expect that and good luck to em.

 

Good looking people come with different packages too. Not all are field-playing so-and-sos .

 

see above quote.

I personally know women like that.

I have worked with them for 10+yrs & seen it with my own eyes.

To put it bluntly, they are cray cray.

 

I think shallow gets thrown around way to easily & used improperly on this forum.

I also think settling gets thrown around too much also.

 

Most of the hot women I know married or dating guys not as hot as them don't act like they settled. They are truly happy and been with those men for yrs.

Like I said it seems to be the notch or two below hot women that think nobody is good enough for them.

 

I don't know why this is but that has been my observation.

 

 

When it comes to women I try to date, I honestly don't care why they are not interested in me.

They have nothing to offer me so I pretty much forget about them.

 

Funnily enough, I seem to generate more interest in real life from women I consider out of my league & the average to above average women I do go for act like i'm some kind of player or something or are not interested in me.

 

I have no idea how good looking or not good looking I am though. I just know i'm not fat & in better shape than most guys my age.

[JuneJulySeptember]

From the looks of Jake Locker's wedding photos, I'd say he did just fine with her.

 

Jake Locker « Fleming Photography Studio Blog

 

If you're gauging him as better looking, I'd beg to differ.

 

She's not bad, but he could have gotten a PERFECT woman. Like Tom Brady's wife, or etc. He's a multi millionaire. And he married her under the age of 24. So, he didn't even bother to play the field.

 

I was EMPHASIZING the fact that he chose her because they are both athletes and went to the same college and not because of her trophy looks.

 

Funny that how when I try and finally say something positive, people still try to turn it into men vs women.

[xxoo]

She's not bad, but he could have gotten a PERFECT woman. Like Tom Brady's wife, or etc. He's a multi millionaire. And he married her under the age of 24. So, he didn't even bother to play the field.

 

Look at him looking at her! He believes he got a "perfect" woman

[JuneJulySeptember]

Look at him looking at her! He believes he got a "perfect" woman

 

I agree, but this thread is all about recovering your 'market' value.

 

So, what the h@ll happened to him?

[iris219]

From the looks of Jake Locker's wedding photos, I'd say he did just fine with her.

 

Jake Locker « Fleming Photography Studio Blog

 

If you're gauging him as better looking, I'd beg to differ.

 

I did not realize this guy played sports until I read some of the other posts. I still don't know what he plays.

 

I thought they were just a regular couple. My first reaction was how much more attractive she is than him. In fact, I find him incredibly unattractive and I find her very attractive. Like many women, she married up in status and down in looks.

[xxoo]

I agree, but this thread is all about recovering your 'market' value.

 

So, what the h@ll happened to him?

 

He fell in love. Market value means absolutely BUNK when you are in love.

[USMCHokie]

He fell in love. Market value means absolutely BUNK when you are in love.

 

But the chance of initiating love is highly dependent on market value...that is, you don't fall in love with someone unless you judge them to be of suitable market value...so by the time love is finally in play, market value is irrelevant...but until then, it is quite important...

[xxoo]

I did not realize this guy played sports until I read some of the other posts. I still don't know what he plays.

 

I thought they were just a regular couple. My first reaction was how much more attractive she is than him. In fact, I find him incredibly unattractive and I find her very attractive. Like many women, she married up in status and down in looks.

 

iris, I don't see that at all. They look evenly matched to me. She's all dolled up in the wedding photos, and he looks much hotter on the field

[xxoo]

But the chance of initiating love is highly dependent on market value...that is, you don't fall in love with someone unless you judge them to be of suitable market value...so by the time love is finally in play, market value is irrelevant...but until then, it is quite important...

 

They didn't meet OLD. They met in college, where they had a chance to interact and develop spark based on more than just looks.

 

Very often, IRL, the person who stands out as the most attractive overall is not the most physically attractive person.

[JuneJulySeptember]

But the chance of initiating love is highly dependent on market value...that is, you don't fall in love with someone unless you judge them to be of suitable market value...so by the time love is finally in play, market value is irrelevant...but until then, it is quite important...

 

YOU can change that.

 

Interested?

[irc333]

Sorry, but you can't compare something as dating and falling for someone to "market value".

 

Market value applies only to products (tangible items) and services

[USMCHokie]

Sorry, but you can't compare something as dating and falling for someone to "market value".

 

Market value applies only to products (tangible items) and services

 

Vehemently disagree.

[soccerrprp]

Going back to the original question: Do you think most women end up settling with a guy who is less attractive than them?

 

My answer to that is, I hope so, b/c it only helps me!

[KungFuJoe]

She's not bad, but he could have gotten a PERFECT woman. Like Tom Brady's wife, or etc. He's a multi millionaire. And he married her under the age of 24. So, he didn't even bother to play the field.

 

I was EMPHASIZING the fact that he chose her because they are both athletes and went to the same college and not because of her trophy looks.

 

Funny that how when I try and finally say something positive, people still try to turn it into men vs women.

 

The thing you don't realize...and this is probably a big factor in your troubles with women...is you THINK you're saying something positive........but you're not.

 

You, like many of the struggling guys here, lack a certain something that I haven't been able to place my finger on yet.

 

It's either some form of tact or comprehension...the exact definition eludes me right now.

[KungFuJoe]

LOL at "market value", "evenly matched", etc, etc.

 

Guys...trying to even compare love and relationships to economics is a sure way to failure.

[mesmerized]

She's not bad, but he could have gotten a PERFECT woman. Like Tom Brady's wife, or etc. He's a multi millionaire. And he married her under the age of 24. So, he didn't even bother to play the field.

 

I was EMPHASIZING the fact that he chose her because they are both athletes and went to the same college and not because of her trophy looks.

 

Funny that how when I try and finally say something positive, people still try to turn it into men vs women.

 

Seriously? If that is an example of a man settling for a woman in terms of looks, there is something really ****ed up about this world...or, you know, about you.

[somedude81]

SD you were rejected by ONE girl who looks the same as you. The rest of the girls you chase, that I've seen, are GORGEOUS and can get any man they want. When I read your posts I question if you even bother with normal girls, all the girls, except one, that you've shown me have looked like they can get any young man they want.

Since I started this school I've been rejected by about eight different girls, maybe more. It's too early in the morning for me to accurately remember. Were a couple of them really good looking? Yes. Was the majority of them really pretty? No.

 

I'm sorry I don't have pictures of all the girls I've been into.

 

The most recent girl I was rejected by actually looks very similar to the brunette I was in the picture with. Except she was shorter and had smaller breasts.

 

What I need to make clear is that I don't pursue girls based on how they look, I chase them based on how they interact with me. I make it a point to talk to a lot of girls in my classes and work environments. If a girl is really hot, but doesn't seem to enjoy talking to me, I won't ask her out. If I talked to a girl a few times and it seems that we both have fun I'll ask her out, regardless if she's a 5 or a 10.

[CryForNoOne]

Threads like this defy basic logic. The world is almost exactly 50/50 men and women. Looks are subjective to each individual, but when talking about objective beautiful, half of each gender is good looking and half are not. Making an educated guess, I'd say SLIGHTLY more men than women go through life with few or no relationships. But a short ugly man is not much worse off than a fat ugly woman. And we're talking 10% of the population. The vast majority either marry and have kids or have LTRs. So what I'm getting at, is that there is NO WAY most women can end up settling with a guy less attractive than them. It's kinda statistically impossible. It goes both ways. These perceptions are based on your own very subjective view of the dating world. They have no basis in fact...

[2sure]

I don't think women settle. I think women are better looking than men. Women are ...pretty. So, although we must be attracted to a man...his being as "pretty" as us is not important. Not to me anyway. Besides, I like to be the good looking one. I don't think that's unusual.

[CryForNoOne]

I don't think women settle. I think women are better looking than men. Women are ...pretty. So, although we must be attracted to a man...his being as "pretty" as us is not important. Not to me anyway. Besides, I like to be the good looking one. I don't think that's unusual.

 

Not true. In nature, the male is more often the beautiful gender in animal species. They've also done tests with babies responding to "attractive" men and women WITHOUT makeup etc.. and the male gets a slightly higher positive response. I'm not saying this to start a gender war, it's accepted fact in the scientific community.

 

Our perception that females are more beautiful stems from our ancestral gender roles as the hunter/provider and the nurturer/protector. Women spend MUCH more time trying to look beautiful then men, thus they ARE for all intents and purposes more beautiful in society. Just wanted to point out that distinction...

[USMCHokie]

LOL at "market value", "evenly matched", etc, etc.

 

Guys...trying to even compare love and relationships to economics is a sure way to failure.

 

Is it because you don't understand it...?

[CryForNoOne]

Actually, I know a few short ugly men that are married to attractive women. I believe that fat ugly women are worse off than short ugly men (because looks are valued way more by men than women), BUT the fat ugly woman could lose weight whenever she wants. So it all evens itself out in the end.

 

I would agree with that except the short ugly male with no confidence is doomed to a life of celibacy. Whereas the fat ugly woman with no confidence has probably been approached once at some point.

[tbf]

Not true. In nature, the male is more often the beautiful gender in animal species.

In birds, not mammals.

 

They've also done tests with babies responding to "attractive" men and women WITHOUT makeup etc.. and the male gets a slightly higher positive response. I'm not saying this to start a gender war, it's accepted fact in the scientific community.

Can you link the studies that cause the scientific community to accept your assertion as fact?

 

Our perception that females are more beautiful stems from our ancestral gender roles as the hunter/provider and the nurturer/protector. Women spend MUCH more time trying to look beautiful then men, thus they ARE for all intents and purposes more beautiful in society. Just wanted to point out that distinction...

Define beauty in universal terms.

[WhoreyBull]

Most women might settle on a man you think is less attractive than them.

[WhoreyBull]

If I talked to a girl a few times and it seems that we both have fun I'll ask her out, regardless if she's a 5 or a 10.

 

But 1-4 are right out