Do you believe in ghosts?

[youngnlove89]

Ever have those moments where you feel like you are being watched? Or when something taps you on the shoulder, but nobody is around? Or maybe when you are walking to your kitchen and you see a figure in the corner of your eye, but you know you are alone? Or even those unexplained bruises/scratches that weren't there yesterday?

 

Tell me your experiences with spirits. Any negative or positive.

[KatZee]

Absolutely.

 

In my old apartment where I grew up I would be alone and all of a sudden I would feel eyes behind me. The hair on the back of my neck would stand up. It felt as if there was presence standing right behind me, as if I could turn around and bump right into someone. I would always be frozen and so scared to turn around, but I would and there was never anything visible.

 

In my parents house I was in my room and I looked up and I caught the back of someone's leg walking into my parents room. I got up because I thought it was one of my parents and then I froze because I remembered I was home alone.

 

I've also had experiences with angels/guides/those who have passed.

 

1. I was once in my car on an empty highway at night and out of no where this guy came all the way from the left going about 50MPH slower than I was. I slammed on my brakes and then the world went silent and I heard a very calm voice. "You're going to hit him." My hands were then jerked completely to the right and my car swerved into a intersection. The light was in my favor, my car did not flip. It was nighttime and I know my conscious being did not see this open intersection where I could verge off. My eyes were focused completely on the license plate of the car in front of me. I know I was not in control of my hands and I wasn't the one who got me out of that crisis. After I got out of my shock I did a U turn to get back on the highway and all I saw on the pavement were the black tire marks from my car that had screeched and skidded.

 

2. On a particularly bad night with my ex, we were laying in his bed. This was a few weeks after he confessed to cheating on me. I was at an all time low. I was living on ambien and anti anxiety medication, I lost 10 pounds. Wasn't eating, couldn't sleep for more than 2 hours a night. I was always furious or sobbing. He fell asleep, I was crying. I knew I couldn't go on in the relationship a second longer. I spoke in my head, I called on his mom (who passed a few years ago). I asked her to give me a sign or some hope b/c I couldn't be with her son anymore. I instantly fell asleep, which was weird b/c it was impossible for me to do so. I woke up and saw the clock, it was only a mere 10 minutes later but the sadness, the depression, the hate, everything negative in me was gone. I said to myself, "maybe I was having a good dream. This can't be real." And instantly I was asleep again. I awoke again, 10 minutes later. Same feeling. It was that night where the depression and fog lifted. I didn't cry from that night forward.

 

I went to a psychic medium a few weeks later and all I said was, "A few weeks ago I was at an all time low, I fell asleep and woke up fine. Was anyone with me?" He didn't even blink, and immediately said, "Yes. That was XX's mother. She gave you her blessing."

 

Spirits are all around us. Just need to be open to listening, and hearing what they have to say.

[ComingInHot]

Bent wrote, "Yes, I believe spirits walk among us."

 

As awesome as you are Bent (and you know I mean that!*), I REALLY hope Not! I absolutely don't want to be justawalkin around here after I'm dead. My God in Heaven, haven't I paid my dues to get the HE** off this planet?!

I am expecting to only return with Jesus (unless he comes back before I die, which I think would be soooooo coooool).

 

I want to be in Heaven so I am strong healthy and living AWWWWWESOME when I great the rest of my family as they enter!

 

leave the spirit walking for God's warriors and satan's scum...

 

I lovingly and with great respect send this response Bent***

[GorillaTheater]

Yes, I believe spirits walk among us.

 

I'd rather phrase it like "spirits are capering among us". Or "shambling", that's a pretty good one.

 

Color me skeptical. But not so skeptical that I don't think people who mess with things like ouiji boards are playing with fire.

[todreaminblue]

Ever have those moments where you feel like you are being watched? Or when something taps you on the shoulder, but nobody is around? Or maybe when you are walking to your kitchen and you see a figure in the corner of your eye, but you know you are alone? Or even those unexplained bruises/scratches that weren't there yesterday?

 

Tell me your experiences with spirits. Any negative or positive.

 

 

 

yes i believe in ghosts.........spirits demons......but then i am schizo affective.....and they medicate me when i say i hear them or see them....

fact is my grandfather came to me as a spirit in a dream.....when i was a little girl.......my mother is living proof........when i woke up and she told me she had something to tell me ....i told her dont cry ....i already know ....grandpa came and told me......he had died that night.....while i was asleep

 

 

a friend of mine seen a man in full military uniform.........standing on his stairs.....looking sad........he wasnt frightened even though he could see the wall behind the figure.......i have seen and heard many things that make me believe.....deb

[elplague]

No. Believing in ghosts is simply an irrational mechanism to defend human understanding of the finality of death, and thus assuage the feeling of utter finality.

 

There is no real credible evidence ghosts exist. There are paranormal phenomena, the majority of which include gravity roads and hauntings. The basic understanding of the world in which we live is very limited, and not broad in scope. We understand, for instance, more about outter space then the deepest parts of our oceans.

 

For me, I believe the human mind is extremely powerful, powerful enough to alter the reality around us in ways we cannot comprehend. Thus, I'd assert there are no ghosts, only figments we ourselves create, to assuage the finality question, and to confirm our own beliefs.

[KatZee]

No. Believing in ghosts is simply an irrational mechanism to defend human understanding of the finality of death, and thus assuage the feeling of utter finality.

 

There is no real credible evidence ghosts exist. There are paranormal phenomena, the majority of which include gravity roads and hauntings. The basic understanding of the world in which we live is very limited, and not broad in scope. We understand, for instance, more about outter space then the deepest parts of our oceans.

 

For me, I believe the human mind is extremely powerful, powerful enough to alter the reality around us in ways we cannot comprehend. Thus, I'd assert there are no ghosts, only figments we ourselves create, to assuage the finality question, and to confirm our own beliefs.

 

How would you then explain a person who I have never met in my entire life, coming up to me, looking at me and going, "You have a woman named Mary standing right behind you. I'm feeling a pain in my chest and I'm feeling how she passed. She's acknowledging that you need to stand up to your mother. Who is she? How did she pass?"

 

Well, Mary was my grandmother. Died very suddenly from stage 4 lung cancer. (10 years ago)

 

I think there is much evidence all around us, spirits, guides, those who have departed. You just need an open mind to be able to receive their messages and to "hear" them.

[elplague]

How would you then explain a person who I have never met in my entire life, coming up to me, looking at me and going, "You have a woman named Mary standing right behind you. I'm feeling a pain in my chest and I'm feeling how she passed. She's acknowledging that you need to stand up to your mother. Who is she? How did she pass?"

 

How do I explain it? Admittedly, I don't. I don't have too, because I don't believe in supernatural -anything.- Could it be projection of subconsciousness? Not sure. Could it really be telepathy, or anything else? Ants have a "hive mind" for instance. There's nothing supernatural about that, simply a mix of chemicals the brain reacts to, which leads to combined action. I'm not making the claim that these entities exist, nor do I have to explain why they don't - the evidence simply isn't strong enough to support your assertion.

 

You, thus, have the onus of proving this assertion to be true.

 

Well, Mary was my grandmother. Died very suddenly from stage 4 lung cancer. (10 years ago)

 

Sad to hear it. Lung cancer is a horrible, horrible disease.

 

I think there is much evidence all around us, spirits, guides, those who have departed. You just need an open mind to be able to receive their messages and to "hear" them.

 

I'm about as open minded as they come. I've studied alot of religious documents, practiced more then a few. I've tried my hand at a quija board, tarot cards, etc. To me, the finality of death is a very profound and difficult thing for us to accept, and thus, forms the easier and simplest explanation of any of these phenomena.

[KatZee]

the evidence simply isn't strong enough to support your assertion.

 

Have you ever seen paranormal investigators who use scientific equipment? Recorders for EVP, infrared cameras, EMF detectors to note any changes in electromagnetic field (also eliminating any such things like electronics, or nearby places that may emit such things), thermal cameras, etc.

 

I'm not talking about your hollywood production shown on TV which quite honestly is a bunch of BS, but the real deal guys.

 

We can absolutely track changes in environment, pick up audio, etc. I don't think you can say for certain that nothing exists beyond death. You cannot get rid of energy. It only becomes a new form. We are made up of energy. Not matter.

 

Quantum physics says that as you go deeper and deeper into the workings of the atom, you see that there is nothing there – just energy waves. It says an atom is actually an invisible force field, a kind of miniature tornado, which emits waves of electrical energy. And that's not religious talk, that's scientific.

 

So if we are energy, it only makes sense we can exist without a physical body since energy cannot be destroyed. The law of conservation of energy states that energy cannot be created nor destroyed, only transferred from one form to another. Energy can exist in different forms, such as thermal (heat), kinetic (movement) and potential (stored).

 

I think there's way more to the spiritual world than we can comprehend.

Edited April 18, 2013 by KatZee

[elplague]

Have you ever seen paranormal investigators who use scientific equipment? Recorders for EVP, infrared cameras, EMF detectors to note any changes in electromagnetic field (also eliminating any such things like electronics, or nearby places that may emit such things), thermal cameras, etc.

 

Yes, I've seen them.

 

I'm not talking about your hollywood production shown on TV which quite honestly is a bunch of BS, but the real deal guys.

 

Real deal? You mean the guys who believe they can sample ectoplasm, a cryptoform that hasn't been scientifically proven to exist?

 

We can absolutely track changes in environment, pick up audio, etc. I don't think you can say for certain that nothing exists beyond death. You cannot get rid of energy. It only becomes a new form. We are made up of energy. Not matter.

 

Your assertion does not counter mine, that the human subconscious and therefore brain are extremely powerful objects. Moreover, magnetic fields are currently very limited in understanding. We do not fully understand how the brain interacts with them, and thus, cannot assume any of the alterations IN the magnetic field of an object that is altered is due to spiritual changes vs real brain output and activity.

 

Quantum physics says that as you go deeper and deeper into the workings of the atom, you see that there is nothing there – just energy waves. It says an atom is actually an invisible force field, a kind of miniature tornado, which emits waves of electrical energy. And that's not religious talk, that's scientific.

 

I don't disagree; but again, the harnessing of energy as a useful thing also includes entropy, and the larger the entropy, the more chaotic the energy, and thus, the more useless it becomes.

 

So if we are energy, it only makes sense we can exist without a physical body since energy cannot be destroyed. The law of conservation of energy states that energy cannot be created nor destroyed, only transferred from one form to another. Energy can exist in different forms, such as thermal (heat), kinetic (movement) and potential (stored).

 

I think there's way more to the spiritual world than we can comprehend.

 

Again, this assumes a spiritual world exists. To assume it exists you must prove its existence, which clearly the evidence does not do.

[venusianx13]

Have you ever seen paranormal investigators who use scientific equipment? Recorders for EVP, infrared cameras, EMF detectors to note any changes in electromagnetic field (also eliminating any such things like electronics, or nearby places that may emit such things), thermal cameras, etc.

 

I'm not talking about your hollywood production shown on TV which quite honestly is a bunch of BS, but the real deal guys.

 

We can absolutely track changes in environment, pick up audio, etc. I don't think you can say for certain that nothing exists beyond death. You cannot get rid of energy. It only becomes a new form. We are made up of energy. Not matter.

 

Quantum physics says that as you go deeper and deeper into the workings of the atom, you see that there is nothing there – just energy waves. It says an atom is actually an invisible force field, a kind of miniature tornado, which emits waves of electrical energy. And that's not religious talk, that's scientific.

 

So if we are energy, it only makes sense we can exist without a physical body since energy cannot be destroyed. The law of conservation of energy states that energy cannot be created nor destroyed, only transferred from one form to another. Energy can exist in different forms, such as thermal (heat), kinetic (movement) and potential (stored).

 

I think there's way more to the spiritual world than we can comprehend.

 

Awesome. And to kick it back a few notches, one of most basic laws of physics is the Law of the Conservation of Energy. Energy cannot be created or destroyed; it can only be changed from one form to another. We ARE energy.

[KatZee]

Awesome. And to kick it back a few notches, one of most basic laws of physics is the Law of the Conservation of Energy. Energy cannot be created or destroyed; it can only be changed from one form to another. We ARE energy.

 

Exactly. So can we say for certain that there is some wonderful afterlife full of flying cherubs? No, I guess we can't. But what we can say for certain is that we are energy, you cannot destroy energy, we can only become a new form.

 

I think there is something bigger than us at play, and I feel like we just change and move into a higher frequency than we're at now. It's crazy but I feel once the physical body dies, you morph into your new form and you'll start seeing energy of people you couldn't even register when you had a solid form. I don't think there is a true "death." We'll just be floating blobs, high fiving each other being like "whats up guys! haven't seen you in years!"

[BetheButterfly]

Ever have those moments where you feel like you are being watched? Or when something taps you on the shoulder, but nobody is around? Or maybe when you are walking to your kitchen and you see a figure in the corner of your eye, but you know you are alone? Or even those unexplained bruises/scratches that weren't there yesterday?

 

Tell me your experiences with spirits. Any negative or positive.

 

I experienced a spirit, who I believe is an angel, helping me be calm when I was drowning once. I felt it/him lifting me up too. It was a very positive experience that I will never forget.

 

While some people do not think this was an angel, I personally have always thought it was, and that it/he was in the water with me. When I saw and felt it, I had a lot of peace and felt amazed, which is not a natural reaction to not being able to breathe for me. (I am asthmatic and have choked several times on pills; not being able to breathe panics me due to my experiences in not being able to breathe.) The reason I say "it" is because I didn't get a sense at all if the spirit was male or female, though in the Bible, the angels named are given male names.

 

As far as I know, I've never had an experience with a ghost.

[Thegameoflife]

Well, if you're Christian, and you don't believe in Ghosts, I think you might be lacking some lessons on your faith.

 

The funny thing is that we're all ghosts. The Ghost and the soul are the same thing, and our bodies are just a physical vehicle so that we can interact with the physical world. A ghost is just the soul when it has left a body.

 

What thing that I've always wondered, is if a ghost has ever used the internet. If you think about it, we only read each other's words, but we don't actually see a person on the other end, sitting at their computers. I wonder if a spirit could ever manipulate a computer to take part online in a discussion.

[Robert Z]

Exactly. So can we say for certain that there is some wonderful afterlife full of flying cherubs? No, I guess we can't. But what we can say for certain is that we are energy, you cannot destroy energy, we can only become a new form.

 

As a practical matter, there is no mystery about where the energy associated with life goes when we die. It is lost to the environment in the form of heat.

 

This notion that conservation of energy is suggestive of an afterlife is so wrong on so many levels that it makes me want to scream.

[OpenBook]

What thing that I've always wondered, is if a ghost has ever used the internet. If you think about it, we only read each other's words, but we don't actually see a person on the other end, sitting at their computers. I wonder if a spirit could ever manipulate a computer to take part online in a discussion.

 

ahahahahahhhaaaaa... That would certainly be a unique challenge for moderation.

[KatZee]

Participating in the spirituality board is making me super paranoid this week!

 

First with the dreams earlier this week, and this morning I woke up after getting a good 8-9 hours of sleep (again another night of a weird a.ss dream) and I looked in the mirror and I have very dark circles around my eyes as if I've gotten not one minute of sleep.

 

I then walked to my hallway and one of the closet doors is completely wide open, and things I had on a shelf are all over the floor. Umm.

 

I know for fact I don't leave closet doors open, I know for fact I heard nothing fall last night, unless something happened when I was sleeping, and in that case why would the door be open?

 

I feel like I need to set up video recording b/c things are getting weird!

[KatZee]

That happened to me a lot in my teens. Didn't really investigate until my 20's...I am a sleep walker. Not so much anymore. But the more anxiety and stress I am under....apparently I try to deal with it when I am asleep by doing things...like cleaning. Yeah...I am abby normal.

 

I've never slept walked though!!! How did you wind up investigating? Did you film yourself?

[Eve]

Ever have those moments where you feel like you are being watched? Or when something taps you on the shoulder, but nobody is around? Or maybe when you are walking to your kitchen and you see a figure in the corner of your eye, but you know you are alone? Or even those unexplained bruises/scratches that weren't there yesterday?

 

Tell me your experiences with spirits. Any negative or positive.

 

I try hard to close the side of me that can communicate with the other side simply because I don't like it. The last most memorable time it happened and I agreed to partake was when a neighbours H died. I didn't even know he had passed! but I was given a message for her by a very beautiful spirit who came into my room whilst I was fully awake. I was not surprised when I saw her the next day at a festival in town and we made sure she sat with us as she looked so lost. The message bought her much comfort - but as I said I don't like doing it really, so avoid it.

 

I have visited where the good ones live in my sleep but try to stay in my body at night nowadays as there is a lot of dodgy activity going on at the mo. Plus I don't really understand it all and can't be doing with it.

 

On a side note my daughters workplace are going to get a priest in because they have an angry ghost who keeps smashing the place up, lol.

 

I just like my Guardians really. They can stay, the others can wait until it's my time/or if God sends them.

 

Take care,

Eve x

[h3braica]

yes i have seen, feel their presence, having a conversation with them in dreams and hear them numerous times.

[angelsandhealing]

I'm new to this forum. I've just looked around before and not posted. But I've had angels and spirits around me my entire life, so when I found this post tonight, I joined.

 

I have had angels keep me out of harms way and I am clairaudient and hear spirits and I often see them out of the corner of my eye as you said.

 

One time I drove a motor scooter into a concrete wall going high speed and didn't get a scratch - I was physically lifted off the scooter and was gently placed on the grass. The motor scooter was totaled.

 

Another time after water skiing I was standing on the back of the boat and the toe rope was caught by another a passing boat. It wrapped around my legs, flipped me over and I went way down in the water. I remember looking up through the water, seeing the boat so far up, and then feeling someone take my hand, pull me to the surface and guide me safely past the outboard motor. It all happened so quickly. The huge black and blue marks on my legs from the toe rope was a reminder.

 

I was most probably almost car jacked one time. I was in the city alone and I pulled up to a lonely red light where four young men started to surround my car. At that moment a commanding voice said, "put your car in gear, step on the gas, and run that red-light." And I did run that red light.

 

God has sent me angels my entire life that have protected me and I don't care what other folks think. Angels and guides are there to help us, but it's everyone's individual choice whether to ask for help or not - it's called free will.

[Feelin Frisky]

I don't believe in believing.

[sillyanswer]

Ever have those moments where you feel like you are being watched?

 

Yes, but none of the other things. I don't particularly think it's the action of spirits or ghosts, though.

[M30USA]

I don't believe in ghosts as they have come to be known. However, the King James Version of the Bible uses the word ghost interchangeably with spirit (such as "holy ghost"). So in that context I believe in ghosts.

 

In regard to evil spirits/ghosts, Scripture suggests that they are not able to appear physically in the world and cannot operate in a direct way. Rather, they work through psychological means, such as possession, etc.

 

In regard to holy spirits/ghosts, not only is there the Holy Spirit, but we also know from Scripture that these beings CAN appear physically--in the form of ordinary men, or even flames (whatever that means).

Edited June 10, 2013 by M30USA

[youngnlove89]

 

Here's a video that creeped me out. I honestly can't think of a rational explanation for the shape you can see coming out of the room at around the 1:30 mark.

 

That doesn't mean there isn't a rational explanation, it just means I can't think of one. It's one of the most realistic ghost videos I've seen, and I've seen a lot. Most of them are explainable, but this one is weird.

 

Yea, now I'm going to have nightmares. I don't like that kind of stuff. :/

 

Too spooky for me.