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USMCHokie Established Member

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Perhaps you need better reading skills. He is the one who was saying what men "should" be attracted to not me. I just corrected him because his logic was seriously flawed and as far as I know, he loves to be logical.

 

Actually, I have pretty decent reading skills...check it out:

 

BEFORE? that is exactly when women start developing all those features. Sorry than your Asian background makes you like boyish looking women, but big hips and boobs means more estrogen and fertility and tons and tons of men go nuts over them specially the ones who are the least affected by the media.

 

The bolded words above, which you used, draws some inferences. By saying that men who go nuts for these women tend to be the men least affected by media, you imply that these women are NOT glamorized by media, i.e., they are overweight with "big hips and boobs." That was the key phrase that revealed your hand.

 

Since a very hefty portion, pun intended, of the population is overweight, many men will have little choice but to learn to go nuts for these women...or be alone...because someone has to based on the numbers...

mesmerized Established Member

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Actually, I have pretty decent reading skills...check it out:

 

 

 

The bolded words above, which you used, draws some inferences. By saying that men who go nuts for these women tend to be the men least affected by media, you imply that these women are NOT glamorized by media, i.e., they are overweight with "big hips and boobs." That was the key phrase that revealed your hand.

 

Since a very hefty portion, pun intended, of the population is overweight, many men will have little choice but to learn to go nuts for these women...or be alone...because someone has to based on the numbers...

 

Yes, those are the words I have used because curves are not the most popular in the fashion industry right now (and a lot of people attribute that to the fact that the industry involves a lot of gay males), so you see less and less of them in media, though not all media.

 

Porn for example, which is directly related to what men want to screw and their primal desires is filled with women with big asses and large breasts. Almost every porn website you to go has a big ass or boobs channel, but I've never seen a rail thin channel. A lot of times the very thin women are used to be shown as extremely young, playing daughter and daddy, having lollipops in their mouth, pony tails and kiddy underwear ...Porn clearly uses them to satisfy the desire of men who want to have sex with children but they can't due to laws.

 

Mila kunis isn't known for her body but her face...The ones who are the most well known for their bodies and are considered sex bombs are always the ones with exaggerated features and womanly shapes.

 

Oh and every single HOT guy I know who has tons of options is into a fit woman with amazing curves, that's basically the ideal. The problem is, those women tend to be rare, but the ones who exist certainly have hourglass/pear shaped genes naturally or they wouldn't have curves.

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Oh, And I have thin waist, bigger hips and boobs. Put me in a bikini next to any other thin girl in bikini with the same degree of facial attractiveness and I guarantee you I clean up more even with men who are affected by the media :laugh:

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MrNate 2.0 Established Member

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Oh, And I have thin waist, bigger hips and boobs. Put me in a bikini next to any other thin girl in bikini with the same degree of facial attractiveness and I guarantee you I clean up more even with men who are affected by the media :laugh:

 

Now you got her started, Hokie.:rolleyes::laugh:

KraftDinner Established Member

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Did this thread really devolve into a "men should only be attracted to xyz body type" thing?

 

Men like women of all shapes and sizes. Personal preference and all that.

 

How can different tastes be so controversial?

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MrNate 2.0 Established Member

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Did this thread really devolve into a "men should only be attracted to xyz body type" thing?

 

Men like women of all shapes and sizes. Personal preference and all that.

 

How can different tastes be so controversial?

 

 

Like most threads..there's what I call a 'spark post' that turns a 3 page thread into a 15 page one.

xxoo Established Member

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Did this thread really devolve into a "men should only be attracted to xyz body type" thing?

 

Men like women of all shapes and sizes. Personal preference and all that.

 

How can different tastes be so controversial?

 

I'll never understand why celebrating one body type needs to involve putting down other body types.

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USMCHokie Established Member

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I'll never understand why celebrating one body type needs to involve putting down other body types.

 

And I don't on know why celebrating one body type needs to involve putting down the people celebrating it.

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xxoo Established Member

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And I don't on know why celebrating one body type needs to involve putting down the people celebrating it.

 

If the celebrating involves putting different women down, that might be why.

 

If not, then I agree.

Anela Established Member

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Did this thread really devolve into a "men should only be attracted to xyz body type" thing?

 

 

No, it devolved into some men deciding the woman mentioned in the OP, wasn't good enough for them. This thread wasn't supposed to be about men's opinions AT ALL. The woman in the OP, was celebrating her body and herself - she works out, she takes care of herself, but she doesn't let things like stretch marks and cellulite, or a few extra pounds, ruin her day.

USMCHokie Established Member

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I love this woman - I really do...

 

She has a handful of mirror images the likes of which get put up on OLD or are used to attract guys. You know, face made-up and peacocking her stuff to look more attractive.

 

But she also shows that she is a normal, healthy, real woman - the kind that if many guys saw without the primping, wouldn't want.

 

Go figure. This is for you guys who want those women you see in magazines. They aren't real...

 

No, it devolved into some men deciding the woman mentioned in the OP, wasn't good enough for them. This thread wasn't supposed to be about men's opinions AT ALL. The woman in the OP, was celebrating her body and herself - she works out, she takes care of herself, but she doesn't let things like stretch marks and cellulite, or a few extra pounds, ruin her day.

 

Actually, it was expressly directed at the guys...in both the thread title and the bolded above...

 

Her assertion was that women in magazines aren't real and that the woman in the blog is the "real" woman that guys should be pining for...and as a member of the population known as "guys," I along with others voiced our response challenging her assertion that we know many women who are quite real and who don't look like that...

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Mr Scorpio Established Member

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No, it devolved into some men deciding the woman mentioned in the OP, wasn't good enough for them.

 

Some. Several of whom mentioned that she simply wasn't their type.

 

This thread wasn't supposed to be about men's opinions AT ALL. The woman in the OP, was celebrating her body and herself - she works out, she takes care of herself, but she doesn't let things like stretch marks and cellulite, or a few extra pounds, ruin her day.

 

Then with all due respect, the OP shouldn't have titled the thread the way she did. I think it is great that the blogger feels confident enough about herself to post pictures with silly faces. I think it is great that women can celebrate feeling good about themselves regardless of what kind of body they have. The body is merely a vessel that contains the important parts.

 

At the same time, I don't see the sense in criticizing other people's personal taste. To insinuate that -- because I am attracted to petite women -- I am immature, have never been in love, am not attracted to real women, desire to commit pedophilia, or that I have unrealistic standards, seems a bit non-sensical and unfair.

 

I don't assume that was the intent of anyone here. But that is how I read it.

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Imported Established Member

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No, it devolved into some men deciding the woman mentioned in the OP, wasn't good enough for them. This thread wasn't supposed to be about men's opinions AT ALL. The woman in the OP, was celebrating her body and herself - she works out, she takes care of herself, but she doesn't let things like stretch marks and cellulite, or a few extra pounds, ruin her day.

 

Actually, you're wrong. For what you bolded and I'll just leave it at that.

 

While I agree, no one should let things like stretch marks, cellulite or a few extra pounds ruin their day, that woman in the blog is just not that attractive for me. Every single girl I dated is in shape, great skin, attractive to me (and probably every guy...... that thinks they can have a shot) and can pose for a magazine. And they are real. I think the OP does those woman an injustice suggesting women that look like they can be on magazines are any less real. Or does she really think that lady in the blog and the usual women that are on covers look as good as each other and it's all lighting and photoshop?

 

Yes, with age, many will falter and fall to the side. It happens. Why I really appreciate the 30+ year old women that still look great. Had a baby, still looks great and in shape, no excuses from them about how their body changes. I know plenty of women with a child or two that are in phenomenal shape and are over 30. I also see plenty of women with no kids or with kids that are "real" and have a lot of excuses. Do your best. Always be happy with who you are. But don't use excuses.

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Funny thing I've noticed about guys (and this isn't based on scientific research or anything, but I've observed this time and again):

 

Let's say (for this example) that there are 26 different types of women (looks-wise only). Like type D could be tall and thin and blonde, type X could be short and hourglass...etc. You get the idea.

 

Let's say there is a guy that really likes type F women, that they are ideal. Well, from what I've observed, that guy will assume that all other men like type F women best too. And he will see a guy who prefers type R woman and assume the guy is settling because of course he would want a type F woman.

 

And the guy who prefers type Rs would assume the other guy is settling.

 

Like a lot of guys don't seem to realize that other guys like other types.

 

Am I making sense?

 

Like all the guys I've dated seem to think every other guy out there would want me too, since they do. But I can say that is definitely not the case, and I think it's pretty obvious that a guy who likes, say, Asian chicks, would have no interest in me.

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man_in_the_box Established Member

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Yes, those are the words I have used because curves are not the most popular in the fashion industry right now (and a lot of people attribute that to the fact that the industry involves a lot of gay males), so you see less and less of them in media, though not all media.

 

Porn for example, which is directly related to what men want to screw and their primal desires is filled with women with big asses and large breasts. Almost every porn website you to go has a big ass or boobs channel, but I've never seen a rail thin channel. A lot of times the very thin women are used to be shown as extremely young, playing daughter and daddy, having lollipops in their mouth, pony tails and kiddy underwear ...Porn clearly uses them to satisfy the desire of men who want to have sex with children but they can't due to laws.

 

Mila kunis isn't known for her body but her face...The ones who are the most well known for their bodies and are considered sex bombs are always the ones with exaggerated features and womanly shapes.

 

Oh and every single HOT guy I know who has tons of options is into a fit woman with amazing curves, that's basically the ideal. The problem is, those women tend to be rare, but the ones who exist certainly have hourglass/pear shaped genes naturally or they wouldn't have curves.

 

I definitely like curves but this post is rather offensive for men who are into something different. Paedophilia, really...? "succesfull" men choose partners of a specific body type? Nonsense.

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xxoo Established Member

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Funny thing I've noticed about guys (and this isn't based on scientific research or anything, but I've observed this time and again):

 

Let's say (for this example) that there are 26 different types of women (looks-wise only). Like type D could be tall and thin and blonde, type X could be short and hourglass...etc. You get the idea.

 

Let's say there is a guy that really likes type F women, that they are ideal. Well, from what I've observed, that guy will assume that all other men like type F women best too. And he will see a guy who prefers type R woman and assume the guy is settling because of course he would want a type F woman.

 

And the guy who prefers type Rs would assume the other guy is settling.

 

Like a lot of guys don't seem to realize that other guys like other types.

 

Am I making sense?

 

Yes! I was thinking the same thing, but couldn't express it clearly. That makes total sense.

 

What is with the inability to see that other people have different preferences??? Is it a form of egoism? My favorite must of course be everyone's favorite?

 

I definitely like curves but this post is rather offensive for men who are into something different. Paedophilia, really...? "succesfull" men choose partners of a specific body type? Nonsense.

 

I agree, it is insulting to men who have a different preference. There is nothing wrong with being attracted to the ballerina type. Ballerina type is NOT boyish, or childish. It is incredibly feminine and beautiful, as is the curvy type!

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Funny thing I've noticed about guys (and this isn't based on scientific research or anything, but I've observed this time and again):

 

Let's say (for this example) that there are 26 different types of women (looks-wise only). Like type D could be tall and thin and blonde, type X could be short and hourglass...etc. You get the idea.

 

Let's say there is a guy that really likes type F women, that they are ideal. Well, from what I've observed, that guy will assume that all other men like type F women best too. And he will see a guy who prefers type R woman and assume the guy is settling because of course he would want a type F woman.

 

And the guy who prefers type Rs would assume the other guy is settling.

 

Like a lot of guys don't seem to realize that other guys like other types.

 

Am I making sense?

 

Like all the guys I've dated seem to think every other guy out there would want me too, since they do. But I can say that is definitely not the case, and I think it's pretty obvious that a guy who likes, say, Asian chicks, would have no interest in me.

Yeah, but many men also like various types of women. Using your example, I could like all types from D to M.

 

I disagree with the race aspect. While I do like Asian girls, I'm not attracted to all Asian just like I'm not all attracted to all white girls.

 

As long as a woman is slim, curvy and busty, I don't care what her race is, though I do like certain races more than others.

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I definitely like curves but this post is rather offensive for men who are into something different. Paedophilia, really...? "succesfull" men choose partners of a specific body type? Nonsense.

 

Exactly. I know lots of economically successful men and only one has a super hot wife (and she's an obvious gold digger). Really, every guy is different when it comes to women, I think the big disconnect is when women/men get mad that the sort of person they want doesn't want them back.

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Funny thing I've noticed about guys (and this isn't based on scientific research or anything, but I've observed this time and again):

 

Let's say .....type X could be short and hourglass...etc. You get the idea.

 

Let's say......type F women, that they are ideal. .....

 

type R woman

 

 

I don't think many guys make this assumption you claim. I can like a type X or a type F or a type R.

 

So long as they are not fat. So long as they have a nice face. And we get along. That lady in the blog is fat. Didn't bother actually looking at her face. Wouldn't bother getting to know her.

 

A girl can be almost as tall as me or much shorter than me. Big boobs, small boobs or anywhere in between. Long thin legs or short "thick" (not fat) legs. Short hair or long hair. Light pale skin or black. Lots more differences that are perfectly fine by me.

 

However, they can't be fat. They can't be ugly. It is not that complex and yet guys are still not as simple as you seem to think we are.

 

Like a lot of guys don't seem to realize that other guys like other types.

 

Am I making sense?

 

Like all the guys I've dated seem to think every other guy out there would want me too, since they do. But I can say that is definitely not the case, and I think it's pretty obvious that a guy who likes, say, Asian chicks, would have no interest in me.

 

It only makes sense if each guy only likes a very specific "type" and nothing else. Of course, this is far from reality. I love pizza!!! Doesn't mean I can't love steak as well. Or Spaghetti! With meatballs! Most guys and girls have an idea of "universally attractive"....take a look at magazine covers and movie stars....and generally that doesn't include an unappealing face or a body that was allowed to get out of shape.

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I don't think many guys make this assumption you claim. I can like a type X or a type F or a type R.

 

So long as they are not fat.

 

The points was that, if another man likes type L (or XL), do you assume that he settled? Or do you allow that maybe that's his dream woman?

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Then with all due respect, the OP shouldn't have titled the thread the way she did.

 

Wow, 20 pages later - I have to admit I have not kept up with this very thread that I started. So beat me up that I didn't title the thread appropriately. Whatever.

 

I'm glad it started a dialogue (that I haven't bothered reading) about the stereotypes of women's bodies and how they are viewed, even if I didn't present it in the proper manner. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

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I love this woman - I really do...

 

She has a handful of mirror images the likes of which get put up on OLD or are used to attract guys. You know, face made-up and peacocking her stuff to look more attractive.

 

But she also shows that she is a normal, healthy, real woman - the kind that if many guys saw without the primping, wouldn't want.

 

Go figure. This is for you guys who want those women you see in magazines. They aren't real...

 

I would hope that we all know that magazines pictures are touched up and photoshopped and the like.

 

But, all this talk about who is or isn't a "real woman" makes me think of George Allen and his macaca moment when he talked about the "real Virginia". I don't really feel like judging who is a real woman and who isn't...

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Funny thing I've noticed about guys (and this isn't based on scientific research or anything, but I've observed this time and again):

 

Let's say (for this example) that there are 26 different types of women (looks-wise only). Like type D could be tall and thin and blonde, type X could be short and hourglass...etc. You get the idea.

 

Let's say there is a guy that really likes type F women, that they are ideal. Well, from what I've observed, that guy will assume that all other men like type F women best too. And he will see a guy who prefers type R woman and assume the guy is settling because of course he would want a type F woman.

 

And the guy who prefers type Rs would assume the other guy is settling.

 

Like a lot of guys don't seem to realize that other guys like other types.

 

Am I making sense?

 

This principle extends well beyond men to include women as well, and it can be applied quite generally even beyond dating. What you are talking about is a combination of lack of empathy andprojection of values. People tend to project their own values as the values of all other people. It's why men have such a tough time understanding how looks don't matter quite as much to women and why women have such a tough time accepting that looks matter to men more than they realize and that that is not a bad thing.

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That girl is not fat.

 

Imported must have high physical standards. She aint skinny, but she is not what I think of when I think of "fat"

 

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That chick is not fat. Having preferences is one thing, but imo you have a screwed up perception if you truly consider her fat. She looks healthy and athletic. Could she lose a few pounds and still be healthy? Sure. Does she need to in order to improve her health? From a medical perspective, I don't think so. There is a range of what is healthy and she easily falls within that range, based on every indicator commonly used including waist-hip ratio, lifestyle, defined muscle mass, and perfectly healthy bmi. I don't have an issue with personal preference for a different aesthetic but to judge this girl for failing to conform to your (yes, shallow) ideals is outrageous. If she is healthy, happy, and in a fulfilling relationship why would she need to lose weight?

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