Otty Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 They want alpha males in a relationship. HuffPost says so! They finally admit that all of the BS they have been feeding men for years is actually that, BS. Listen for yourself: What Women Want Is An Alpha Male, Says HuffPost Blogger Emma Johnson (VIDEO) Link to post Share on other sites
MrCastle Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 Wait, so you're saying--women want men who act like men? 5 Link to post Share on other sites
LovelyLife Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 When I said, "I do.":p Link to post Share on other sites
Author Otty Posted April 28, 2013 Author Share Posted April 28, 2013 Plus, there are a lot of good men today who are responsible, hold good jobs, participate in their churches, civic organizations and communities, raise their children, and generally do all of the things men were supposed to do for millennia, yet today, unless they are also a self-centered, aggressive, arrogant, egotistical jerk in addition to these things, they are not considered dateable by many women. Today, we have become a society where appearance "Image" means everything, substance nothing. Most genuine men of our fathers and grandfathers generation would laugh at the "alpha men" of today who try to act like men." They would immediately recognize the fakeness. It's sad that today's women can't. 6 Link to post Share on other sites
samsungxoxo Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 Wait, so you're saying--women want men who act like men?I think that's obvious, just like men want us to have feminine qualities. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
MrCastle Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 I totally agree. I think being a man is an art form, as is being a lady. This goes way beyond biology. You are not automatically a man just because you have a penis. Or a woman because you have a vagina. You need figureheads in your life to guide you and teach you the societal norms and expectations of being a man/woman, but also listen to some of your instinct. I love women. I love their bodies. I love everything about them. I don't shy away from sex talk or being sexual. People may see that as sleazy or whatever but I know for a fact women get just as horny on the low and they respond well to my sexual presence. I'm not one of these guys that think women are all super duper princessess that need to be treated like porcelain figurines. That's not me. I'm bold, I'm outspoken, I'm confident, I lead, etc. I believe it is a man's job to be those things, and do those things. It's worked for me so far. Link to post Share on other sites
tbf Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 How shocking that women want partners they can rely on, someone who can shoulder the load and drive some of the time! My husband is like a rock but one who's got enough of a handle on his ego, that he isn't afraid to pass the steering wheel back and forth. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
SJC2008 Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 Lol advice from a single mother who has a friend who is a single mother... The know how to pick em!!! I don't like the term alpha male. I'm not passive, I can make decisions etc and I'm no pushover. But I don't look overly masculine or aggressive. I don't look like a pussy but I don't look super masculine. when I hear the term alpha male I always think there's a masculine look that goes along with the traits. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
soccerrprp Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 Well, then, that's it. Women ONLY want the alpha-males. If you're not that, then you should throw in the towel right now. Pssst....for the millions of men who aren't so-called alpha-males who have relationships and marriages, that's all an illusion. (cough cough). 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Jowee Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 By this line of thought, someone like myself who is genderqueer has no chance of ever having a relationship with a woman... which may be true because I am almost 25 and haven't had a relationship ever. You know what though? I know other genderqueer folks that are in loving relationships with women. Also frankly I am not going to act like something I am not just to attract someone else... that's ridiculous. I don't think anyone should act a certain way because that is what they think they have to do to find someone. There are plenty of beta and omega males in relationships... not to mention gender variant folks. I think this whole "women want an alpha male" thing is ridiculous... it is stereotyping women and stereotyping "successful" men. The article that was linked is just one woman's opinion on the subject... it does not reflect every woman's opinion. Link to post Share on other sites
soccerrprp Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 All the women I've dated have never desired an alpha-male. Confidence, loyalty, inner-strength are what women want. Those are traits found in all types of men, not only the so-called alpha. Guys, forget about the alpha-male crap. Take charge of your life and exude an air of confidence with the ladies and that is what is most important. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
fortyninethousand322 Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 It's about social status/social standing. It's evolutionary. Bad genes don't reproduce, good genes do. Assertive and aggressive people have had their genes pass on over the generations while more docile or passive people have not. The process continues to this day. People think evolutionary biology/psychology is bunk, but it's not. It just gets bad press was the charlatans who claim to speak for the entire field of study... Link to post Share on other sites
JuneJulySeptember Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 Well, then, that's it. Women ONLY want the alpha-males. If you're not that, then you should throw in the towel right now. Pssst....for the millions of men who aren't so-called alpha-males who have relationships and marriages, that's all an illusion. (cough cough). Funny you should mention. Just last year, two of my female friends got married to such men. One is definitely not an alpha male type. The other could be considered kinda so, but not universally. I'm pretty confident to say that neither woman (knowing them) were into them at first, but they won them over. Both women, just a couple of years back I remember lusting for my good looking friend who has only had the same girlfriend for the past 10 years and showed absolutely no interest in either of them. A lot is said in life about what is perception and what is reality. I think reality has really shaped my perception on this issue. Most women really do all lust for the same exclusive group of guys. It's because of the way nature structured us. Men are attracted to a WIDE (sometimes ridiculously so) range of women. Something having to do with sowing oats. Hot women have to deal with the fact that an average guy can get a cute or even kinda cute gal and be really attracted to her. Hot guys don't really have to deal with that. I really think hot women are at a disadvantage when it comes to that. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Jowee Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 It's about social status/social standing. It's evolutionary. Bad genes don't reproduce, good genes do. Assertive and aggressive people have had their genes pass on over the generations while more docile or passive people have not... I call BS... if this is entirely true then why after how many thousands of generations of human beings do we still have passive and docile people... you would think that by now these traits would have been "bred out" of us. Honestly I think this is all BS... This is all just stereotyping... I mean who is anyone to say what all women want, no one can possibly make an assertion like that. There are cultural differences to think about too. Gender roles are not the same or as clearly defined in every part of the world, how do you account for this? Link to post Share on other sites
tbf Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 It's about social status/social standing. It's evolutionary. Bad genes don't reproduce, good genes do. Assertive and aggressive people have had their genes pass on over the generations while more docile or passive people have not. The process continues to this day. People think evolutionary biology/psychology is bunk, but it's not. It just gets bad press was the charlatans who claim to speak for the entire field of study...This totally misinterprets the underpinnings of natural selection. Natural selection is about adaptable mutations, not about strength. As an example, the opposable thumb. Notice how natural selection ensured that it became a human trait, rather than an anomaly? It was very useful so when helpful to survival mutations happen, the individuals with the mutation will survive longer to mate and reproduce more progeny and quite often, are sought out by others since they're useful. Take the common chimpanzee (not bonobo). The young males in the group are the primary meat hunters so the chimps that acquire more meat AND who are willing to share with the females, get laid. Link to post Share on other sites
fortyninethousand322 Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 This totally misinterprets the underpinnings of natural selection. Natural selection is about adaptable mutations, not about strength. As an example, the opposable thumb. Notice how natural selection ensured that it became a human trait, rather than an anomaly? It was very useful so when helpful to survival mutations happen, the individuals with the mutation will survive longer to mate and reproduce more progeny and quite often, are sought out by others since they're useful. Take the common chimpanzee (not bonobo). The young males in the group are the primary meat hunters so the chimps that acquire more meat AND who are willing to share with the females, get laid. No it doesn't. It's about the favorable traits getting passed on no matter what those traits are. More assertive or aggressive men get their genes passed on. Those traits tend to be concentrated in so called "alpha males", though not only in those types. There must be something beneficial otherwise those traits wouldn't have survived to this day. Unlike the OP, I happen to believe that the alpha male traits are actually quite abundant in men. The so called bitter dateless loser males are by far in the minority. Hence, their genes will not get passed on. There are posters (whom I shall not name, though I will name myself one of them) for whom this is probably, though not certainly true. Link to post Share on other sites
fortyninethousand322 Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 I call BS... if this is entirely true then why after how many thousands of generations of human beings do we still have passive and docile people... you would think that by now these traits would have been "bred out" of us. Honestly I think this is all BS... This is all just stereotyping... I mean who is anyone to say what all women want, no one can possibly make an assertion like that. There are cultural differences to think about too. Gender roles are not the same or as clearly defined in every part of the world, how do you account for this? Biology > culture, almost all of the time. For the most part, bad traits have been bred out of us. Which is why unlike the OP I do not think so called "alpha male" qualities are scarce, they are the norm. It's the men without assertive or aggressive qualities who will be less likely to reproduce. Much like people born with tails or webbed hands and feet. Link to post Share on other sites
fortyninethousand322 Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 Really? This way of thinking makes you feel better about your situation and your lack of success with women? Do you believe what you say? Do you really believe that only hot, rich and successful people date, enter into relationships and marry? If so, Why bother even trying, worrying about, questioning it or posting about it? Just accept your fate and focus on things that you make you happy and that are in your control. How do you overlook all the BILLIONS of couples where one or both people are one or more of the following? Ugly, fat, short, poor, bald, hairy, uneducated, wears glasses, beta, doesn't dress well, introverted, nerdy, quiet, shy, boring, have crappy jobs, have issues, etc. *sigh* I don't think that only hot or rich people, etc. end up in relationships. I actually think that most people do. In fact the stats back that up. I think that a minority of men do not end up in relationships. They are just unattractive, and we're not talking in terms of looks or money, they are just not attractive. Link to post Share on other sites
ScreamingTrees Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 Take the common chimpanzee (not bonobo). The young males in the group are the primary meat hunters so the chimps that acquire more meat AND who are willing to share with the females, get laid. So, what you're REALLY saying is.. I need to be willing to share my meat with the females? That's all I have to do? 3 Link to post Share on other sites
tbf Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 So, what you're REALLY saying is.. I need to be willing to share my meat with the females? That's all I have to do? How else does one get laid if not meat sharing? Link to post Share on other sites
ScreamingTrees Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 How else does one get laid if not meat sharing? Well, if you're not getting any, you probably just need to get MORE MEAT. MORE MEAT!! MORE MEAT!! http://www.jrj-socrates.com/Cartoon%20Pics/Comics/Farside/Caveman_304.gif 1 Link to post Share on other sites
HoneyBadgerDontCare Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 Being alpha vs. being beta is a choice. So, technically, you're all wrong. Link to post Share on other sites
Jowee Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 Much like people born with tails or webbed hands and feet. Gemma Arterton was born with a crumpled ear and six fingers on each hand but ended up becoming a Bond girl... I don't think she will have trouble reproducing. I think it is just as natural and acceptable to not have alpha male traits than it is to have them... luckily society is slowly doing away with these archaic ideas of gender roles and binary gender expression. I think it is crazy to assume all women want alpha males or even certain alpha male traits... no one can speak for an entire population. Also I find alpha males who state that women only like alpha males to be kinda funny, it shows one really apparent alpha male trait and that is arrogance (not to mention the blatant self promotion haha). Link to post Share on other sites
Treasa Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 They want alpha males in a relationship. HuffPost says so! They finally admit that all of the BS they have been feeding men for years is actually that, BS. Listen for yourself: What Women Want Is An Alpha Male, Says HuffPost Blogger Emma Johnson (VIDEO) Ok, admittedly I only read the OP. Once Huffington Post starts paying my bills, they can tell me what kind of man I like. Link to post Share on other sites
USMCHokie Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 Everyone has a different definition of "alpha" This. You can't have a discussion about "alpha" unless you clearly define alpha...and society has twisted the term to mean so many different things...one may define as the biological connotation, while others may define it as the social connotation, while others will define it with the PUA definition... Until everyone is on the same sheet of music, this is nothing more than a circle jerk...and Castle is the soggy biscuit. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
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