Have the "trumpets" of Revelation begun?

[M30USA]

Most of you probably have not heard this, but in the last 2 years there have been strange noises in the earth's atmosphere all across the world, often accompanied by tremors on the ground. The noises are described as anything from scraping metal, to groans, to horns or trumpets. Whether real or merely perceived, witnesses say these noises are coming from the sky.

 

Here is a short news clip:

 

Here is one of the earliest uploaded YouTube videos of the noises. Unlike other later hoaxes, this one is legitimate. Its sound waves have been alayzed digitally and have been shown to contain real, acoustic harmonics which only occur in nature and musical instruments. Around 7 minutes in, you really hear it get louder and can make out various tones/pitches similar to a musical instrument:

 

To show the low probability of this being a hoax, here is one that occured during a Major League Baseball game. It happened the same night as an earthquake nearby:

Strange Sounds Rays Baseball Game evening of Earthquake East Coast U S YouTube - YouTube

 

Before I jump the gun and say that these are the trumpets of Revelation, I'd like to step back and first establish that the trumpet of God (or angels) is not symbolic. It is literal and audible.

 

Here are 3 reasons why I'm certain the trumpet of God (or angels) is literal and audible:

 

1) Moses and Israel audibly heard a loud "trumpet blast" come from the sky above Mount Sinai, accompanied by ground shaking and thick clouds. This was before Moses went up and met God. Additionally, it seems to correlate the trumpet blast to the "voice of God" (see Exodus 19:16-20).

 

2) The ancient Jewish horn, called a Shofar, is used for the very reason that it replicates the "trumpet blast" of God which all Israel heard at Mount Sinai before they met God and received the 10 commandments. The fact that it was chosen shows they at least had some real, audible sound to compare it to.

 

3) 1 Corinthians 15:52 says, "...in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed." This bolded word "sound" often gets overlooked. It clearly means an audible sound. Additionally, the entire context of this verse is very literal. It's talking about a physical resurrection of the body, etc, so why would it interject a symbolic term in the middle of a literal passage?

 

Since we know the trumpet sound in Scripture is literal and audible, we should then ask the following questions: What would such a trumpet noise sound like? And when would we expect to hear it from a prophetic standpoint?

 

The most likely explanation is that the Lord's trumpet would not sound like a modern trumpet, but rather the ancient Shofar horn of Israel. Afterall, this is what Israel chose to replicate the trumpet blast of God. Here is a link to what a Shofar sounds like:

Sonidos del Shofar - Sound - YouTube

 

So when does this trumpet blast get sounded according to Scripture? Any time God (or the angels) want us to "get ready" or "prepare" for something. Often the trumpet (Shofar) was blown by a human in Israel. In these cases it was typically for battle, etc. Other times the sound was made by God, himself. This is typically to prepare us for his coming or for his judgements.

 

To those who believe the Bible, yet think it's absolutely impossible for these current trumpet-like sounds to be the ones mentioned in Scripture, I would ask you the following question: Since we already know to expect a literal trumpet sound (see 1 Cor 15:52), and since we know the Shofar horn is similar to the sound of God's trumpet blast, what ELSE would you expect the real trumpet blast to sound like? In other words, what in your opinion WOULD be a legitimate sound which you WOULD consider the real thing?

 

In order to present other views, here are some explanations that are more "rational" by scientists or skeptics:

 

1) The sounds in these videos are the result of something similar to aurora borealis. But instead of producing light, it produces sound waves. This is because, apparently, electromagnetism can manifest as either light OR sound.

 

2) The sounds are coming from shifting tectonic plates in the earth's crust.

 

3) The sounds are produced by HAARP, which stands for High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program. One of these is located in Alaska. They have acres and acres of high sound producing machines that allegedly can be pointed and targeted anywhere. They are even believed to have potential of targeting tectonic plates and causing earthquakes.

 

I currently have not made up my mind about what is causing these noises. I would like to hear if anyone has either heard these noises, themselves, or has more information.

Edited April 30, 2013 by M30USA

[pureinheart]

M30- going off the title of OP, I believe they have.

 

I can 'feel' both spiritually and physically the seasonal shifts. I can 'feel' the intensity increasing. At first wanted to chalk this up to 'age', BUT others much younger are experiencing what I am also.

 

As communicated to you in your previous thread concerning "sleep paralysis", the particular sound the other night- this is not the only unusual thing I've noticed as of late. There is an increase of spiritual activity in the spirit realm and it is manifesting more frequently into the direct natural, meaning in a visual sense.

 

I hear more than I talk about, the spirit realm is becoming extremely vocal. If one doesn't believe me, just take a look on the streets- more people out there talking to 'themselves', and this is not those talking on cell phones via ear devices.

 

My physical body almost cannot handle the expansion and contraction of seasonal changes. The earth is groaning IMO- it is increasing on a rapid rate daily.

Edited April 30, 2013 by pureinheart

[M30USA]

M30- going off the title of OP, I believe they have.

 

I can 'feel' both spiritually and physically the seasonal shifts. I can 'feel' the intensity increasing. At first wanted to chalk this up to 'age', BUT others much younger are experiencing what I am also.

 

As communicated to you in your previous thread concerning "sleep paralysis", the particular sound the other night- this is not the only unusual thing I've noticed as of late. There is an increase of spiritual activity in the spirit realm and it is manifesting more frequently into the direct natural, meaning in a visual sense.

 

I hear more than I talk about, the spirit realm is becoming extremely vocal. If one doesn't believe me, just take a look on the streets- more people out there talking to 'themselves', and this is not those talking on cell phones via ear devices.

 

My physical body almost cannot handle the expansion and contraction of seasonal changes. The earth is groaning IMO- it is increasing on a rapid rate daily.

 

Yea, I guess I was mostly referring to the audible sounds of the trumpets, themselves, and whether or not these are being heard worldwide now.

[Eve]

My youngest daughter owned up to it being her passing wind repeatedly, lol.

 

Well, I don't know what those sounds are. All I know is I am ready if any **** is going to go down. Been ready for years.

 

Take care,

Eve x

[M30USA]

My youngest daughter owned up to it being her passing wind repeatedly, lol.

 

Well, I don't know what those sounds are. All I know is I am ready if any **** is going to go down. Been ready for years.

 

Take care,

Eve x

 

LOL, now that is hilarious.

[pureinheart]

Concerning the rest of OP- this is a trip.

 

It sure does sound the sound of a Shofar to me.

 

Now if all of the other signs (or a few) of Jesus return were not present, I would have a tendancy to say that the scientists views were more on target, but with all of the Biblical evidence, I'd say this is God.

 

M30, the sound of the Shofar is what I was trying to describe to you, although it was in the Spirit and not audible in the natural...wow, this is a trip!

 

*note* I had forgotten what a Shofar sounded like.

Edited April 30, 2013 by pureinheart

[M30USA]

This is one of those things where you have to suspend ALL your feelings and perceptions--and look SOLELY at Scripture, carefully reading the TEXT.

 

There WILL be audible trumpet sounds before the plagues of judgement and then, at the final trumpet, the rapture.

 

Even the idea that these events must immediately follow is an assumption. If anything, it seems it can drag out and last a while before anything "big" happens. Exodus 19:16-20 shows that the trumpet blast of God grew "louder and louder" before God responded and told Moses to climb the mountain. This suggests a span of time--of which how long we aren't told. But it's not immediate.

Edited May 1, 2013 by M30USA

[M30USA]

Lol, once again I find myself in a place where I think something is hugely important yet mostly nobody sees it that way, lol. Ahhh...the curse of Asperger's. Sometimes I wonder if most of the prophets had Asperger's. (Kidding.)

[pie2]

I haven't done one bit of research in this, but is there a difference in the bible (esp. Revelations) between 'trumpet-like sounds' and 'sounds of trumpets'?

 

 

Ahhh...the curse of Asperger's.

 

M30 ~ Are you officially diagnosed? If not, it seems pretty unlikely that someone with Asperger's would have the awareness to self-diagnose. I could be wrong though.

[M30USA]

I haven't done one bit of research in this, but is there a difference in the bible (esp. Revelations) between 'trumpet-like sounds' and 'sounds of trumpets'?

 

Simply reading 1 Corinthians 15:51-52 in combination with Exodus 19:16-20 seals the deal, in my opinion, of the trumpet blast not only being audible as actual sound, but also coming from God himself. The first verse refers to the trumpet that will "sound" before the rapture. The second verse shows Moses and Israel hearing the "trumpet blast of God" as the mountain trembled.

 

M30 ~ Are you officially diagnosed? If not, it seems pretty unlikely that someone with Asperger's would have the awareness to self-diagnose. I could be wrong though.

 

Haven't been diagnosed, but it's a running joke in my family that all of us have it. I actually took a non-clinical, unofficial test online and, while they said the likelihood is there, I scored on the low to mid end.

[M30USA]

If anyone cares (not many seem to), here is a compilation of news reports regarding worldwide mass deaths of animals, birds, and fish. It's interesting to note that these mass deaths have started in 2011, the same year when these trumpet sounds started being heard. I do not find this coincidental because, if you read Revelation, one of the seven trumpets causes 1/3 of the animals and sea creatures to die.

 

Mass Animal Deaths Since The Start of 2011 - YouTube

[pie2]

1 Corinthians 15:51-52

 

Exodus 19:16-20

 

Both passages say that a trumpet will sound, not that we'll hear trumpet-like sounds. I don't think God will leave a doubt in anyone's mind that trumpets have sounded.

 

 

Haven't been diagnosed, but it's a running joke in my family that all of us have it. I actually took a non-clinical, unofficial test online and, while they said the likelihood is there, I scored on the low to mid end

 

Well, you must have a very interesting family! I bet you're all very smart .

[M30USA]

1 Corinthians 15:51-52

 

Exodus 19:16-20

 

Both passages say that a trumpet will sound, not that we'll hear trumpet-like sounds. I don't think God will leave a doubt in anyone's mind that trumpets have sounded.

 

 

 

 

Well, you must have a very interesting family! I bet you're all very smart .

 

I dunno about smart. Maybe hyper-focused on a few subjects. You know it's not normal when you're breaking out a biblical concordance to read EVERY verse which contains the word "trumpet", lol.

[AlexDP]

You guys hear what you want to hear because you want to feel special. It's the same with all these apocalypse believers. You know why they're so eager to believe the apocalypse is coming? Because it would make us, our generation, special. Imagine that, in all those billions of years the apocalypse happens when we're right here.

 

Nothing is going on, M30. Stop being a psycho and do something with your life.

[M30USA]

You guys hear what you want to hear because you want to feel special. It's the same with all these apocalypse believers. You know why they're so eager to believe the apocalypse is coming? Because it would make us, our generation, special. Imagine that, in all those billions of years the apocalypse happens when we're right here.

 

Nothing is going on, M30. Stop being a psycho and do something with your life.

 

Obviously you didn't read my OP and are thread jacking. I'm ASKING people for explanations. Do you have one? Please contribute. I find it interesting that your science-priests have not agreed upon an explanation for either the trumpet sounds or the mass animal deaths. Yet you seem assured that their cause is known. (And I'm pleased with what I've done with my life, thank you.)

 

FYI, the Bible has a verse about your view:

 

"...knowing this first of all, that scoffers will come in the last days with scoffing, following their own sinful desires. They will say, "Where is the promise of his coming? For ever since the fathers fell asleep, all things are continuing as they were from the beginning of creation." For they deliberately overlook this fact, that the heavens existed long ago, and the earth was formed out of water and through water by the word of God, But by the same word the heavens and earth that now exist are stored up for fire, being kept until the day of judgment and destruction of the ungodly. The Lord is not slow to fulfill his promise as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing that any should perish, but that all should reach repentance. But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, and then the heavens will pass away with a roar, and the heavenly bodies will be burned up and dissolved, and the earth and the works that are done on it will be exposed." (2 Peter 3:3-5, 7, 9, 10 ESV)

Edited May 5, 2013 by M30USA

[M30USA]

In full disclosure and objectivity, I have just researched that there HAVE been occasional mass deaths similar to this in the past decade or two (at least). But it appears as if they are more common and, of most significance, caused by unknown factors.

[Mme. Chaucer]

If you are actually looking for explanations, here's some in depth scientific discourse about the booms:

 

Mysterious Sounds Around the World - Scientists explain

 

Of course, you'd have to be able to accept the reality of science to bother with such things.

 

OP, here you go "preaching to the choir" again. You really have no interest in exploring what the noises might be, do you? You just want to find support for your religious platform in this as in every other aspect of life.

 

Which is fine, really. But why pretend that you would like to have a real discussion?

[M30USA]

Thanks, mme. I will check it out.

 

FYI, my first approach is to always look for explanations that are called natural. (Though that term is misused and often not understood, but that's another issue.)

 

Ironically, this is why I concluded that UFOs (or the approximately 5% that have no known explanation) are angels or angelic activity. No other explanation made sense. It was a process of elimination. Believe me, as an Asperger person I spent probably 300+ hours looking at all natural explanations before determining they are angels. Yea, sure, you'll say to get a life...but I didn't screw around with this topic.

Edited May 6, 2013 by M30USA