JuneJulySeptember Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 I'd give the first woman a 7 at best. The point I was making though was that ugly dudes probably are in the same pool for women as the good looking men, yet get pissed off at not succeeding. they cannot expect anything less, so maybe they should go for women who are not 9s and 10s. I understand your point. And my point is that struggling dudes (ugly or not) rarely go for 9s and 10s. If you would consider the first a woman a solid 6, I have mostly gone for women below that. Average women want and can get hot guys (another story for another thread). So, setting the bar lower physically does not really get the job done. Link to post Share on other sites
JuneJulySeptember Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 You sure you don't have those 2 mixed up? Because I rather have the "7" than the "10". A LOT of men would like the first girl. That's the problem. She's maybe a 6 or 7, but you can't even imagine how many guys hit on her, anywhere from guys who are 4s up to 10s. Link to post Share on other sites
ltjg45 Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 A LOT of men would like the first girl. That's the problem. She's maybe a 6 or 7, but you can't even imagine how many guys hit on her, anywhere from guys who are 4s up to 10s. Weird. I rather for her to be slim than to have any form of meat on her. It's not like I can take the weight of a 170+ pound woman on top of me. I could literally get crushed. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Treasa Posted May 9, 2013 Author Share Posted May 9, 2013 lol... If you're so confident, why seek to influence anybody? Why do you care what some stranger online does? I'm venturing a guess here, but I think it's because I'm happy, and it's nice seeing other people happy, too. Link to post Share on other sites
charlietheginger Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 Karaokie bars all over the world are full of ugly People. Ive personally seen a fat ugly guy dance around sing grease Lightening and summer loving. Sure ever sat he is a ham and girls talk to him but he ain' getting No pootie tang Link to post Share on other sites
Author Treasa Posted May 9, 2013 Author Share Posted May 9, 2013 lol... If you're so confident, why seek to influence anybody? Why do you care what some stranger online does? Yes, Traci, how dare you want other people to be happy! I just scolded myself for you. Link to post Share on other sites
JuneJulySeptember Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 I'd give the first woman a 7 at best. The point I was making though was that ugly dudes probably are in the same pool for women as the good looking men, yet get pissed off at not succeeding. they cannot expect anything less, so maybe they should go for women who are not 9s and 10s. Lol. I just realized the 2nd woman was Cindy Crawford. That dates you quite a bit! Link to post Share on other sites
charlietheginger Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 You sure you don't have those 2 mixed up? Because I rather have the "7" than the "10". Top one is alot hotter... Crawford isnt all that i dont like sunken face cheek bones On chicks. Ive got my own manly cheekbones Link to post Share on other sites
colejack Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 I'm not a comedian, if I have to rely on my ability to make a woman laugh, it's never going to happen. A lot of the best comedians, in my opinion, are not back-slapping outgoing guys who are constantly cracking jokes, but rather very honest with a very unique view on life. I'd be willing to bet Louis CK is a pretty awkward person if you to hang out with him in a small group, but would still manage to be very intersting and insightful. Not to say he gets a ton of women, considering a big portion of his act is how he's bad with women. Link to post Share on other sites
Necris Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 (edited) I never got the whole humor makes one attractive thing. I'm a pretty humorous guy or at least so I'm told by the people that know me but that doesn't make women want to be with me, at best I can be good friends to them but at the end of the day they are going to want other guys, never me. Being the funny guy just isn't going to help in the dating department. Honestly I think this is just one of those things in life that's just not meant to be for some people. Better advice would be to just get used to being alone. Edited May 9, 2013 by Necris Link to post Share on other sites
HoneyBadgerDontCare Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 Um, that isn't true. There was a time when I couldn't talk to ANYONE and I didn't even leave the house for five months. I was terribly shy, not very outgoing, and came across as defensive almost all the time. It's sure a lot easier to change than something like your height or every little negative physical thing about yourself. The thing is though, physical things matter A LOT. I used to debate this too, but it is what it is. I'm short. For the longest time, I wouldn't admit that my looks make up for it with enough women for that not to be a problem. Upon further reflection, it's true. Some women are able to overlook my height because of my looks. Some aren't. If I had to go through life being short AND ugly, I'm sure I would feel the same as the guys you're directing this at. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Treasa Posted May 9, 2013 Author Share Posted May 9, 2013 I agree that someone's happiness is their own responsibility. And I do detect quite a bit of defensiveness from some people, and understand that maybe they aren't ready to take actions to be happy. But I'm going to continue to post things that I hope will be helpful. If you want to get upset about it, go ahead. You aren't hurting me one bit. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
HoneyBadgerDontCare Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 I agree that someone's happiness is their own responsibility. And I do detect quite a bit of defensiveness from some people, and understand that maybe they aren't ready to take actions to be happy. But I'm going to continue to post things that I hope will be helpful. If you want to get upset about it, go ahead. You aren't hurting me one bit. The reason why people are getting upset is because you're commenting on something that you know nothing about. You're saying that it's the fault of the guys that they're not getting girls. But this isn't always the case. Link to post Share on other sites
Necris Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 I agree that someone's happiness is their own responsibility. And I do detect quite a bit of defensiveness from some people, and understand that maybe they aren't ready to take actions to be happy. But I'm going to continue to post things that I hope will be helpful. If you want to get upset about it, go ahead. You aren't hurting me one bit. Let's be serious here being funny isn't going to make women all of a sudden love a guy if he's already terrible with women. Humor is more of the "icing on the cake" for an already attractive guy who is already good with women. I'm a funny guy at least to the people that know me, and yet I'm always rejected, I've actually never experienced anything other than rejection my entire life, I've never had a relationship certainly never kissed a girl. Women simply aren't attracted to me at all at best I'm the humorous friend. Link to post Share on other sites
HoneyBadgerDontCare Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 Funny you mention it, I totally madeout with a guy in a wheelchair last week. He is sexy. Bounced all over his lap dancing on him. He's handsome but seriously his sense of humor and open mind is what made me talk to him in the first place. And that's me in the avvy.....so I am not visibly deformed or otherwise "disabled"... You DO realize what an asshat you sound like though right!? Like guys in wheelchairs are the bottom of the barrel !!!!! Makeouts are like handshakes these days. Did you get his number? Go home with him? Go on a date with him? No? Didn't think so.... Link to post Share on other sites
ScreamingTrees Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 I don't even know why I respond to threads like this.. This post will probably be met with negativity, I'm sure.. Figures that I couldn't even invoke a response to any of my questions.. I don't think anyone has an answer. Hoping a professional will, if I ever actually land an appointment with one.. Link to post Share on other sites
HoneyBadgerDontCare Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 So, how can one just wake up one day and feel "happy"? Should I take medication? I also do think it does show occasionally, but I don't think I often feel "woe is me", I just feel frustrated with myself, if anything. I think other people would say that I'm laid back, quick with a joke, and often can make a joke at my own expense, without making it seem as if I actually believe what I'm saying.. I just don't have "confidence" in the sense that while *I* believe that I'm an awesome person internally, *I* don't believe that I'm physically attractive in general, and so at best I might be good for platonic relationships with the opposite sex. I'm OK with that, I like people, male or female. I'm not trying to force anything on anyone. I blame no one. I don't blame the average girl for not really noticing me or seeing me in that way over other more attractive guys. And yet I don't bow my head, bend over for total strangers who I perceive as "better looking".. I believe that I'm worthy, but I don't believe that others feel the same way due to the way I've been treated in the past. If anything, I just blame myself, the genetic make-up that may render me unattractive to a large number of people. I didn't ask for anyone's pity, and it doesn't matter how I feel about myself, negative or positive.. It doesn't change my appearance and what the majority of people may even subconsciously perceive of it. And even if you do not believe me, I do NOT wallow in my pity from day to day, once I go outside and step away from the keyboard, it actually really helps with my mindset and my mood, and most of the time, even at their worst, my feelings are neutral. I can even crack a smile, can have idle chit chat in the heat of the moment, whatever.. Those other thoughts vanish, and I'm no longer sitting alone at home as I most often do obsessing over all of my flaws and spending time trying in vain to fix or change them. I agree with you. Even when I was in the depths of depression, I had girls willing to date me. Why? Because I'm good-looking. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
SJC2008 Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 Personality is lower than looks on the totem pole for most men and women. Link to post Share on other sites
hppr Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 1. Humor 2. Playful self-deprecation 3. Confidence 4. Laid-back-ed-...ness? /> I agree except for 2, that should be used sparingly or not at all. Women take it as a sign of insecurity oftentimes, especially if they don't know you that well, and if you go into territory making jokes about your looks/money/sexual performance they will think you are a dud. They will avoid you and/or possibly hate you. Also you forget to add WELL DRESSED, GOOD SMELLING (expensive cologne) with an IN STYLE HAIRCUT, etc. You have to look your best or your odds go down exponentially. Link to post Share on other sites
JuneJulySeptember Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 The thing is though, physical things matter A LOT. I used to debate this too, but it is what it is. I'm short. For the longest time, I wouldn't admit that my looks make up for it with enough women for that not to be a problem. Upon further reflection, it's true. Some women are able to overlook my height because of my looks. Some aren't. If I had to go through life being short AND ugly, I'm sure I would feel the same as the guys you're directing this at. Funny, I've debated upon this many times. If I could pick between a) becoming really handsome but staying short, or b) keeping my face but being tall (or average), which would help more? I think I would go with handsome and short although being tall would erase the short man's complex (which extends well beyond women and dating). Tough decision. But yes, I have my own ways of dealing with the situation I'm in. Makeouts are like handshakes these days. Did you get his number? Go home with him? Go on a date with him? No? Didn't think so.... Haha. In YOUR world. In my world, a makeout session is a win of epic proportions! Link to post Share on other sites
hppr Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 I agree with you. Even when I was in the depths of depression, I had girls willing to date me. Why? Because I'm good-looking. Yeah if anything when I'm 'happy' I don't get laid near as often. As soon as I'm pissed off, decide to be a dick, then suddenly nice to a girl to whom I'm attracted, then act like a prick again, I get a lot more attention. Women don't like happy men, when it comes to sex they want the jerky pushy guy no matter what they say. Link to post Share on other sites
SJC2008 Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 Yeah if anything when I'm 'happy' I don't get laid near as often. As soon as I'm pissed off, decide to be a dick, then suddenly nice to a girl to whom I'm attracted, then act like a prick again, I get a lot more attention. Women don't like happy men, when it comes to sex they want the jerky pushy guy no matter what they say. Being funny has never helped me, as being serious has never hurt most good looking men. Link to post Share on other sites
HoneyBadgerDontCare Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 Yeah if anything when I'm 'happy' I don't get laid near as often. As soon as I'm pissed off, decide to be a dick, then suddenly nice to a girl to whom I'm attracted, then act like a prick again, I get a lot more attention. Women don't like happy men, when it comes to sex they want the jerky pushy guy no matter what they say. For me, being pissed off doesn't work (it's certainly possible that you and I project different things when we're angry). I'm naturally kind of an a-hole. So maybe that's why I get girls even when I'm depressed. And damn, this whole time, I was thinking it was my looks. Link to post Share on other sites
HoneyBadgerDontCare Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 It's strange though that as humans we have this tendency to spout our beliefs and label them as facts lol.. People who say that personality is more important than looks probably do mean what they say, but to label that as some absolute without proof is a perceptual fault. So I can see where the ugly dudes are coming from. However, this does not mean one cannot step up his game, or possess a perpetually defeatist attitude. I agree with this too. But as a guy that used to be all about this, I can honestly say that everybody has their limits looks-wise. No matter how awesome a guy is, if he wants to get either quantity or quality, he has to have some level of looks (though there are many things that go into looks....actually facial structure, height, expressions, posture, style, etc). Link to post Share on other sites
tuxedo cat Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 Krasinski is OK. He's mildly sexy, although he seems a bit boring. Fallon depresses me. Jeremy Renner for the win. Link to post Share on other sites
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