Author Sun Devil Posted May 14, 2013 Author Share Posted May 14, 2013 Why should I, an ambitious engineering student who will have a stable and high paying job and who takes care of himself, should settle for a women who is morbidly obese who doesn't take care of herself while a drug addicted dropout gets someone better Link to post Share on other sites
mesmerized Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 Why should I, an ambitious engineering student who will have a stable and high paying job and who takes care of himself, should settle for a women who is morbidly obese who doesn't take care of herself while a drug addicted dropout gets someone better Aren't you like 5'? you don't have much of a personality either if we go by posts you make here so I don't know why you think your job alone makes you a great catch. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Sun Devil Posted May 14, 2013 Author Share Posted May 14, 2013 If you met me face to face, you would not notice my frustrations. Making friends has been easy for me, so it is not my personality. Is my height of 5 feet a major factor? Link to post Share on other sites
USMCHokie Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 Is my height of 5 feet a major factor? Truth be told, yes. Very much so. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
somedude81 Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 Has he gone after women less attractive than him? I highly doubt it even though he says he has. That's how a lot of women get relationships, they go for someone below their league. Maybe he should try it sometime if he's on the verge of breaking the law to get a girl!! How far below his league do you think he should go? Link to post Share on other sites
HoneyBadgerDontCare Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 If you met me face to face, you would not notice my frustrations. Making friends has been easy for me, so it is not my personality. Is my height of 5 feet a major factor? Sorry to say bro but yes it is. I'm 5'6 and that is BARELY acceptable (and only because I'm good-looking). Link to post Share on other sites
Necris Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 Has he gone after women less attractive than him? I highly doubt it even though he says he has. That's how a lot of women get relationships, they go for someone below their league. Maybe he should try it sometime if he's on the verge of breaking the law to get a girl!! I'm sorry but that doesn't actually work the attractiveness of the girl makes no difference on how attracted she feels to you. I've tried approaching girls who aren't all that attractive and I'm shot down. Fact is they have their own idea of the guy they want and if you aren't that guy you'll still be rejected. What you are really saying is try to find a desperate woman, but how would you find out? Would you really want to be with a woman that's only with you because she feels she has no choice? Link to post Share on other sites
HoneyBadgerDontCare Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 I'm sorry but that doesn't actually work the attractiveness of the girl makes no difference on how attracted she feels to you. I've tried approaching girls who aren't all that attractive and I'm shot down. Fact is they have their own idea of the guy they want and if you aren't that guy you'll still be rejected. What you are really saying is try to find a desperate woman, but how would you find out? Would you really want to be with a woman that's only with you because she feels she has no choice? Agreed. I've noticed that ugly/fat women are even less willing to date lower level guys than hot women (presumably because of their insecurity of being ugly or fat). Just another example of Mesmerized's misunderstanding of the situation. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
USMCHokie Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 (edited) I've noticed that ugly/fat women are even less willing to date lower level guys than hot women (presumably because of their insecurity of being ugly or fat). Just another example of Mesmerized's misunderstanding of the situation. You are only as attractive as who you can attract. So if the "ugly/fat women" were to date the "lower level guys," it is akin to self-admission that they are indeed "ugly and fat." Edited May 14, 2013 by USMCHokie 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Author Sun Devil Posted May 14, 2013 Author Share Posted May 14, 2013 I have heard that my height is not the main reason. Several posters in the past have mentioned short guys who are successful. I don't know if they are lying to make me feel better or not, but I am not sure if it is my height Link to post Share on other sites
USMCHokie Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 I have heard that my height is not the main reason. Several posters in the past have mentioned short guys who are successful. I don't know if they are lying to make me feel better or not, but I am not sure if it is my height 5' is on the extreme of short for men...short guys who are "successful" tend to be five or six inches taller than that...there is a limit to how tolerable an undesirable trait is... Akin to weight, overweight can be fine to some degree, but beyond that into the realm of obese, is where you find fewer people willing to accept and tolerate it. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Author Sun Devil Posted May 14, 2013 Author Share Posted May 14, 2013 The only difference is that obesity is unhealthy but being short is not. Also, most obese people I meet do not even try to lose weight. Link to post Share on other sites
USMCHokie Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 Height usually matters online. In the real world not as much. I agree with this, but those women who have been exposed to OLD might tend to carry with them the "preferences" they'd developed while online, i.e., they will notice height in real life because they're accustomed to noticing height on a profile. Link to post Share on other sites
HoneyBadgerDontCare Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 The only difference is that obesity is unhealthy but being short is not. Also, most obese people I meet do not even try to lose weight. Yes. That's logical. Women think in terms of how they feel, not logic. Link to post Share on other sites
USMCHokie Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 The only difference is that obesity is unhealthy but being short is not. Also, most obese people I meet do not even try to lose weight. I'm not talking about health. I'm talking about attraction. They are two different things. The same argument of "health" is often used by slightly overweight people. They assert that they are "healthy" by clinical standards, and what they don't understand is that they may be healthy, but that is different from being attractive. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
HoneyBadgerDontCare Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 5' is on the extreme of short for men...short guys who are "successful" tend to be five or six inches taller than that...there is a limit to how tolerable an undesirable trait is... Akin to weight, overweight can be fine to some degree, but beyond that into the realm of obese, is where you find fewer people willing to accept and tolerate it. Generally, even guys that are 5'5-5'6 have to make up for it by either being good-looking or very alpha (hence, "Napoleonic Complex") to make up for their lack of height. When you get to the point of average height for women (5'4 and under), you're going to have a very tough time attracting anyone, regardless of your other traits. Link to post Share on other sites
somedude81 Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 I have heard that my height is not the main reason. Several posters in the past have mentioned short guys who are successful. I don't know if they are lying to make me feel better or not, but I am not sure if it is my height Yeah some short guys are good with women. Does that mean that a short guy is completely acceptable to women? Absolutely not. Being short is not an attractive trait in men and it's a dealbreaker for many women. Very very few short guys are good with women. A normal looking short guy with a normal personality will do very poorly with women. Eventually he'll luck out and find the rare girl that doesn't care about height and he'll do all he can to keep her. There is a good chance that women would be a few stages below him in attractiveness. I'm 5'6 with average looks but I have depression and not a lot of confidence and the only women who have ever liked me have been 200+ lbs. Guess that's where my market value is. What is probably funny is that if I was as fat as they were, they probably wouldn't be interested Link to post Share on other sites
somedude81 Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 Height usually matters online. In the real world not as much. I agree with this, but those women who have been exposed to OLD might tend to carry with them the "preferences" they'd developed while online, i.e., they will notice height in real life because they're accustomed to noticing height on a profile. Absolutely wrong. A tall man turns women on. Average height men do nothing. When a guy is short, she doesn't feel that natural physical attraction. It's neutral at best and a deal breaker at worst. It doesn't have anything to do with OLD. If you see a 5'2 woman with a 6 foot guy, do you really think that his height has nothing to do with why she's dating him? Link to post Share on other sites
Pyro Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 Then why don't we do something about it. Maybe if we get enough incel guys to fight back against these behaviors from women, then maybe we can fix the dating world. We need guys who go out and punish women for being stupid. We should not allow women to behave like this. I am glad that there are places like the middle east and asia who know how to keep women in their place Don't expect your luck to change any time soon with this way of thinking. Link to post Share on other sites
USMCHokie Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 Then why don't we do something about it. Yea, make up for it in other ways...get rich...get good at something...good in amazing shape...etc... Link to post Share on other sites
USMCHokie Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 That's a good thing though, personally I wouldn't date someone who is into OLD. It just sets up a whole set of problems anyways. They would probably be too busy meeting guys through OLD to meet guys in real life...so I don't think chances would have looked that great for you anyway... Link to post Share on other sites
Author Sun Devil Posted May 14, 2013 Author Share Posted May 14, 2013 Were they decent looking, young? Link to post Share on other sites
somedude81 Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 Then why don't we do something about it. Maybe if we get enough incel guys to fight back against these behaviors from women, then maybe we can fix the dating world. We need guys who go out and punish women for being stupid. We should not allow women to behave like this. I am glad that there are places like the middle east and asia who know how to keep women in their place Sorry, I don't think there is anything you can do. The only wan you can "punish women" is to somehow convince the guys they want to date to not date women, and good luck with that. Well I'm only 5'4" and I had a handful of women chasing after me in my early 30's. Not as much anymore since I work at home before I worked with the public. Your early 30's? Was that when it started or just the most recent time? Link to post Share on other sites
Author Sun Devil Posted May 14, 2013 Author Share Posted May 14, 2013 So once you got confident, you were able to attract women? Link to post Share on other sites
Eclypse Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 Then why don't we do something about it. Maybe if we get enough incel guys to fight back against these behaviors from women, then maybe we can fix the dating world. We need guys who go out and punish women for being stupid. We should not allow women to behave like this. I am glad that there are places like the middle east and asia who know how to keep women in their place You're a riot. You really want to live in a culture with social attitudes like there? I hope you're prepared to marry the girl you want to have sex with or you'll both be stoned to death. What do you have to offer women for he mr family to accept you for marriage? Would it make you feel good knowing she was only with you because her family forced her! Punishing women? Breaking the law? Are you implying you're going to rape someone? Link to post Share on other sites
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